Tennessee football players involved in brawl

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HwyChile said:
The problem with what you wrote is that we do not know the facts. If the off duty officer started the fight, then someone would have the right to defend themselves. Really, this is all speculation at this point, but just because they were cops does not make everyone automatically the bad guys. Even cops exceed their rights under the law and they could then become the ones who are wrong. Way too much speculation at this point.
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yeah. one guy on here said he was at Bar Knoxville last night and said it was the cop who took the first swing. That might be a mitigating circumstance, but it still doesn't absolve anyone for his fractured skull and stay in the hospital
 
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CountVolcula said:
And how do you know this? Facts please

Officers dont make the laws, they just enforce them.

If you break the law expect to become acquainted with one.

If you break billy bad ass, expect to have your ass handed to you.

A fair fight is one on one. A weak*** ***** cant fight one on one, thats why they need tha boys to back them up.
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Not saying all, but there are a lot of cops who are thugs with badges.

There are good cops. There are bully cops. There are cops who observe the laws they are sworn to uphold, then there are those who abuse their power to break them.

Point is, noone knows who started what, unless you were there. The police, if at fault, will do whatever they can to make themselves out to be the good guys.
 
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I've now read two different things about the 'cop' being the one that initiated it and either pulled a knife or gun. If that's true and he was there as a patron drinking... wouldn't it be self defense to an extent? The fact that the guy is a cop should be thrown out the window. He was just another dude drinking and starting crap.

Obviously that could all be bullcrap and I'm not trying to make excuses for them. If that really is what happened though. I think me and my friends would jump a random citizen that pulled a lethal weapon on us. That 10 on 1 fight wouldn't look so cowardly if the guy was running his mouth and pulled his weapon.

But yeah, I guess all of that is just rumors. Hoping for the best but if it was a case of them beating the crap out of the guy for no reason. That's disgusting.

I'm glad the cop is in stable condition. Hopefully he doesn't have any life long injuries.
 
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CountVolcula said:
And how do you know this? Facts please

Officers dont make the laws, they just enforce them.

If you break the law expect to become acquainted with one.

If you break billy bad ass, expect to have your ass handed to you.

A fair fight is one on one. A weak*** ***** cant fight one on one, thats why they need tha boys to back them up.
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as i said before, if you want a fair fight, dont expect to get that at a bar. there is no such thing as a fair fight at a bar. period. no one on this board was there and knows the actual facts. who knows, the off duty cop may have deserved it?
 
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vol in dixie said:
you obviously have not ever witnessed a bar fight.
there are no rules. it's one group against the other and no one cares about who's outnumbered or not. if your outnumbered it's best you back down. it's not fair, but it's not suppose to be.
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I've witnessed plenty. That is why I am a fairly confident in my opinion of the things that happened here. Liquid courage flowing combined with safety in numbers.
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
Absolutely they should be held to a different standard. They have privileges that the average student does not. They are basically celebrities on campus, and most are going to school for free. They represent the university in a way that nobody else on campus can even come close to. You don't see anything on ESPN about a biology major getting arrested. They are in a position where every single thing that they do, whether good or bad, is going to be looked at and noticed. Especially the football players.
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they are though; most times they're held to much harsher standards and punishments due to all the media tie ins.

The thing is though, as a college student, they still have to be allowed the opportunity to make their own decisions, and if it's a bad one, the university is to respond in return with proper punishment - even if it means expulsion. But it's not the university's job to babysit any of these students, whether it's the bio major or the football player. their choices, decisions, and repercussions are all on them
 
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