Tennessee Football boldly supporting BLM

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allvol123 said:
I agree with you.

But I mean in the context of I support the beliefs of the Third Reich.
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I would like to have a conversation about it and try to understand why. I’ve made it known that I’m A Hebrew And lost Entire branches of my family Tree to the Holocaust. But simply firing someone like that doesn’t help prevent the spread of their hate. If anything it strengthens their resolve. Someone like that would likely be a Holocaust denier. I’d rather have more open debate on the issue so that truth would come out. Truth is freedom.
But no I cannot see any situation where a problem like that could keep their job even if I’m not calling for their termination
 
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KB5252 said:
I don't know what others' opinions are but I really don't see a problem with the idea of the BLM movement. It isn't harmful in any way. I do not support the organization of BLM however, it is a radical, racist political organization.
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The harm/danger is that most people don’t understand/recognize the difference in the two.
 
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AM64 said:
Are black people who benefit from affirmative action suffering from "systemic racism" implemented by LBJ and his merry band? Are they suffering from favorable Ivy League selection policies? I don't see how you can claim "systemic" racism in this age after passage of the civil rights act and all the ongoing legislation to go with it. Ask your self is lynching murder? Do we have laws against murder - would lynching not already be covered? When was the last lynching you can remember - how many black on black murders have happened since that time? The best you can make of all that is rampant democratic/liberal pandering to the black community could be systemic and racist.

The liberal/socialist/communist mode of operation is to convince people they are suffering from one problem or another - and that leftists have the only answer. To that extent there is "systemic racism" - the creation of victims to foster power in the political spectrum. Question: why don't the BLM protests take place in Chicago on street corners claimed by true black violence?
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Integration was rejected by both sides. Black people want black communities, black churches, black colleges. Anything you can assign the qualifier “black” to.

On the flip side Institutions, colleges and business are trying to “diversify.” They feel pressured to have more minorities. To become less white. The thing is, they aren’t “white” businesses and institutions. There is nothing in their make up that is directed towards being white or having “white” agendas or goals.

If we truly integrated we wouldnt have black colleges or black communities or “black” anything. We would just have America. If you asked the average black person, we can end economic and racial disparity within 10 years, however, we would have no “black” colleges, communities, etc., how many would sign up?
 
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I support the athletes using their freedom of speech on their own time. They have that right. I won’t support it when they bring that to the field, the uniform or the financial resources of the program.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Disagree. If someone is now deciding they want to join the KKK, it isn’t coming out of nowhere and it isn’t BLM’s fault. Isn’t “personal responsibility” the favored talking point?
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Your inability to distinguish between prejudice / racism and white supremacy is impressive.

Quite stunning actually
 
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ajvol01 said:
Your inability to distinguish between prejudice / racism and white supremacy is impressive.

Quite stunning actually
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You said nothing in this post. Whether it’s white supremacy or “prejudice/racism” it wasn’t “created in you” by black people.
 
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allvol123 said:
Come on man, cant you post another meme today where you think it means something other than what it actually means. We all enjoyed laughing at you yesterday.
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It’s cute how you follow me around tagging and messaging me like you want my number. I was hoping you’d take the hint but no, I’m not interested
 
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NashVol11 said:
You said nothing in this post. Whether it’s white supremacy or “prejudice/racism” it wasn’t “created in you” by black people.
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My post was poorly written.

Having a negative opinion about BLM isn’t the same as joining the KKK.

That’s the kind of rhetoric that got Trump elected in 2016.

Everyone who disagrees with you isn’t by definition a racist.
 
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allvol123 said:
Oh yea, you're right. As I've said, CJP would support anything to protect his 7 figures. And that is any coach.
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Maybe he actually agrees with the protest as well. That could be said of a number of coaches who spend a great deal of time with their predominantly African-American teams
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Maybe he actually agrees with the protest as well. That could be said of a number of coaches who spend a great deal of time with their predominantly African-American teams
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Agrees with supporting BLM, a racist org, I would hope not. But maybe, college football coaches arent always the brightest guys around
 
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ajvol01 said:
My post was poorly written.

Having a negative opinion about BLM isn’t the same as joining the KKK.

That’s the kind of rhetoric that got Trump elected in 2016.

Everyone who disagrees with you isn’t by definition a racist.
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That wasn’t my point, I didn’t say or imply that those were the same. We were talking about racists being created, and I’m saying that if someone joins the KKK they don’t get to blame black people for “making” them racist. It’s on them.
 
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allvol123 said:
Agrees with supporting BLM, a racist org, I would hope not. But maybe, college football coaches arent always the brightest guys around
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You're certainly not that bright so it might be that you have an easier time identifying such a person. BLM is an organization that means black lives matter just as much as yours, but I'm certain you knew that. It doesn't mean black lives matter over yours
 
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NashVol11 said:
That wasn’t my point, I didn’t say or imply that those were the same. We were talking about racists being created, and I’m saying that if someone joins the KKK they don’t get to blame black people for “making” them racist. It’s on them.
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I guess I’m not getting your point.

How many people do you think belong to the KKK in this country? I don’t have a clue, but I’m gonna say it’s not very many (much less than 1%). So to me it just seems irrelevant - almost like you’re somehow associating the KKK with all whites - maybe not, but it wasn’t clear.

I agree that anyone who joins any hate group is responsible for their own hate / actions.
 
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ajvol01 said:
I guess I’m not getting your point.

How many people do you think belong to the KKK in this country? I don’t have a clue, but I’m gonna say it’s not very many (much less than 1%). So to me it just seems irrelevant - almost like you’re somehow associating the KKK with all whites - maybe not, but it wasn’t clear.

I agree that anyone who joins any hate group is responsible for their own hate / actions.
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There are other similar groups
 
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If the university of Tennessee in any way supports the Marxist group BLM I am done with Vol sports. The people involved should know that this hate filled organization is intent on tearing down this country, tearing down the nuclear family, and embraces communism. There is no reason for this organization to be supported by any university or any student, or student athlete on any taxpayer funded group. I've been following the University of Tennessee football and other sports since 1957.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
That’s a long conversation but let’s start with training in addition to welfare. We can train someone to be a lineman/electrician in 2 years. At the conclusion of training you make 40$ an hour. And it goes up from their with experience. So let’s educate and lift people out of poverty instead of the current system where you’re punished for trying to get out.
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Are you a lineman or an electrician?
 
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TnVol! said:
If the university of Tennessee in any way supports the Marxist group BLM I am done with Vol sports. The people involved should know that this hate filled organization is intent on tearing down this country, tearing down the nuclear family, and embraces communism. There is no reason for this organization to be supported by any university or any student, or student athlete on any taxpayer funded group. I've been following the University of Tennessee football and other sports since 1957.
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I would be careful jumping on the idea that they support the BLM "organization" just yet. The idea and the organization dont have to be the same thing.

I do think they support the rights of their students and student athletes to participate in expressing their views and concerns in a proper way, as well they should.
 
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I made it clear that BLM is the problem. I welcome free speech but I also have the right to choose what I think is right and wrong. BLM in my opinion is wrong and doesn't give a tinkers damn about black lives. So once again if I find that the University of Tennessee in any way is complicit in supporting this marxist group I am finished donating to the university, and promoting them in any way including Vol sports.
 
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TnVol! said:
If the university of Tennessee in any way supports the Marxist group BLM I am done with Vol sports. The people involved should know that this hate filled organization is intent on tearing down this country, tearing down the nuclear family, and embraces communism. There is no reason for this organization to be supported by any university or any student, or student athlete on any taxpayer funded group. I've been following the University of Tennessee football and other sports since 1957.
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Welcome to the forum, McCarthy.
 
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