Tennessee Final Scrimmage News & Notes

#52
#52


Looks like the Defense has a shot at being Elite.

Secondary is deeper than most realize

D Line is the most talented and deepest it's been under Heup.

LBs flying around and tackling well

The 0-Line is coming together nicely and has a shot to be among the best in the SEC especially at run blocking.

TEs are the most talented and deepest they've been under Heup and among the strongest in the SEC

WR still the big question mark of the team.

Joey is improving practice to practice.

I’m going to withhold judgement until I see it but if your list holds up, we’ll be in business. JA won’t have to be a world beater. Just don’t get us in trouble.
 
#54
#54
I am ok with Joey throwing an interception every game if he hits the 3 wide open TDs the last two qbs have missed per game.
3,300 yards 36 TDs and 12 ints
Yeah I’ll take that.
Along with Bishop 900 yards. Lewis 600 yards. Thomas 400 yards.

Matthews 800 yards receiving and 11 TDs
Brazzell 600 yards 4 TDs
Kitz 400 receiving 5 TDs
Davis 400 receiving 5 TDs

Arion Carter 80 tackels
Ed Spillman 74 tackles 5 sacks

Josh Joseph’s is a MAN- 54 tkls, 6 sacks

Redmond 24 tkls, 10 pbu, 3 INT
 
#55
#55
My biggest cause for optimism for 2025 has to be the O-Line. They could end up being the strength of our offense. You can win a ton of ballgames with a great O-Line but you aren't winning jack sh*t without one
I hope so, but sort of strange that we are this good, replacing 4 ol?
 
#56
#56
3,300 yards 36 TDs and 12 ints
Yeah I’ll take that.
Along with Bishop 900 yards. Lewis 600 yards. Thomas 400 yards.I

Matthews 800 yards receiving and 11 TDs
Brazzell 600 yards 4 TDs
Kitz 400 receiving 5 TDs
Davis 400 receiving 5 TDs

Arion Carter 80 tackels
Ed Spillman 74 tackles 5 sacks

Josh Joseph’s is a MAN- 54 tkls, 6 sacks

Redmond 24 tkls, 10 pbu, 3 INT
I actually like the gunslinger type qb much better than the ones who are too cautious, so afraid of an int. they don't throw any 50 50 passes
 
#58
#58
If we can run the ball against a 6 man box, that would be great.

Making the playoffs last year, we could not hit a deep ball or run consistently against a 6+ box. Just being able to do one would be a huge improvement.
imo our passing game was weak, thus other teams stacking the box to try and stop the run. If we had had a qb last year who could hit downfield passes,, no telling what Samson would have done.
 
#59
#59
The WRs imo are more likely to surprise. But I don't have a whole lot of hope for the QB that threw 24 picks in 2 seasons and has never held an offer from any other SEC school. We shall see. I hope I am wrong.
Peyton Manning threw a combined total of 23 interceptions in the 23 games his last 2 seasons at Tennessee. Joey threw 24 picks in 25 games.
 
#61
#61
The WRs imo are more likely to surprise. But I don't have a whole lot of hope for the QB that threw 24 picks in 2 seasons and has never held an offer from any other SEC school. We shall see. I hope I am wrong.
I understand your concern, and yet, very few mention the fact that Heisman hopeful Lanorris Sellers led the nation in fumbles last year. I guess his ceiling is much higher.
 
#62
#62
I think our D will be a solid unit, but for this guy to say it has a chance to be the best we've ever had at Tennessee is quite pre-mature. I'm not even sure right now they're top 10 in the country next year. Maybe top 15. We still have some good players on the DL but a lot of unproven guys are being relied upon to pick up the slack left by the several we lost to graduation/NFL. Again I think they'll be good. But how good is yet to be determined. DB still has some good players starting, but a lot of unproven guys as back ups. LBs should be solid. We'll see.
I thought he said best under Heupel. No one would say it’s the best in Tennessee history. This is General Neyland’s program.
 
#63
#63
The WRs imo are more likely to surprise. But I don't have a whole lot of hope for the QB that threw 24 picks in 2 seasons and has never held an offer from any other SEC school. We shall see. I hope I am wrong.
When you look at the INT % of Hooker and Milton before they transferred to Tennessee, there is plenty of reason the suggest that Aguilar’s INT % will go down significantly in this offense.

Hooker went from a 3.3% INT rate in his final year at VT to 1.0% and 0.6% in his 2 years at UT

Milton went from a 2.8% INT rate in his final year at Michigan to 0.0%, 0.0%, and 1.4% in his 3 years at UT.

Aguilar had a 2.2% and a 3.3% INT rate in his 2 years at App. As we’ve all heard, last years OLine was terrible and we was running for his life, which explains the uptick. But even with the uptick, he’s in the same ballpark as Hooker/Milton pre-UT.

I bet his INT rate is around 1.5% this year, which will be more than fine if he’s otherwise productive. Hell, if he gets that % and just hits on half the deep balls that Milton and Nico were missing, that would be a huge win.
 
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#65
#65
You sir, understand. Thank you. This, among other things, is why the Vols are picked to go 7-5 or 8-4 by people who get paid to make predictions. I hope the offense comes together and QBs are decisive and WRs can get off blocks. If so, it could be really fun. Right now, the offense is behind all their main competition (to this point). Joey just hasn’t been here long enough.
The Vegas line for UT wins is 8.5 so I’d say the people who get paid to make predictions see us as an 8-9 win team.
 
#66
#66
Hell man, I'll double down on your statement-

If you gave me a choice between having 1997 Manning under center this year for the Vols OR having the undisputed top OL in the country, I'm gonna take the line every time

You give any decent D1 QB an extra second or two each play and they are most likely gonna shred you. Some more than others of course.

You don't need 2019 Joe Burrow back there
I’ll take the guy who became one of the greatest, most influential players in the history of the sport. I don’t care what sort of O Line you give a guy like Joe Milton or Nico or JG, those guys aren’t ever going to lead a good offense.
 
#67
#67
Potential losses
Uga
Bama
Florida
Ou
Cuse

I think we beat OU and Cuse… Florida in the swamp it has to happen some day but I’ll never count it as a w until it happens… I think we get UGA at a great time at home I just don’t know what the Qb situation looks like and Kirby has heups number and always has his team amped to play us… bama at bama is tricky because I think we can go toe to toe with them but on the road in sec is tough… I’m leaning 9-3 but really want 10-2 and another playoff berth.
This one with ugly maybe different.

Early in season, no film to study and Ugly will also have mediocre inexperienced QB against a very stout hopefully very aggressive defense and definitely a very loud crowd.
 
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#71
#71
My biggest cause for optimism for 2025 has to be the O-Line. They could end up being the strength of our offense. You can win a ton of ballgames with a great O-Line but you aren't winning jack sh*t without one
Agreed. I think folks have been a little unfairly critical of Elarbee. So far, he has done more with less, but now it looks like he is developing guys and building depth. Oline, more so than any other position group aside from maybe Dline, takes time to develop. If a program is healthy, aside from the David sanders-like athletes, it generally isn’t good if you are having to play a bunch of first or even second year guys. It is a grown man position group.
 
#72
#72
I am ok with Joey throwing an interception every game if he hits the 3 wide open TDs the last two qbs have missed per game.
You are right one a game might not be that bad but that isn’t what he does. He had 5 games last year where he threw multiple so if you assume he threw those against the better teams he faced and that translates to this season we would face an uphill battle to beat good SEC teams spotting them two possession's. I know what making assumptions does but the best team he faced last year was probably Clemson and he threw two in that game. Could have been he was playing from behind and forcing the ball?? Maybe but INT’s against good teams are momentum changers and hard to overcome.

As I have said from day 1 we all hope that under CJH and with a good offensive line this is corrected but there is still that doubt in the back of my mind. I am remaining optimistic but some on here who are promoting him for heisman will be the first ones on here being critical after his first INT.
 
#73
#73
When you look at the INT % of Hooker and Milton before they transferred to Tennessee, there is plenty of reason the suggest that Aguilar’s INT % will go down significantly in this offense.

Hooker went from a 3.3% INT rate in his final year at VT to 1.0% and 0.6% in his 2 years at UT

Milton went from a 2.8% INT rate in his final year at Michigan to 0.0%, 0.0%, and 1.4% in his 3 years at UT.

Aguilar had a 2.2% and a 3.3% INT rate in his 2 years at App. As we’ve all heard, last years OLine was terrible and we was running for his life, which explains the uptick. But even with the uptick, he’s in the same ballpark as Hooker/Milton pre-UT.

I bet his INT rate is around 1.5% this year, which will be more than fine if he’s otherwise productive. Hell, if he gets that % and just hits on half the deep balls that Milton and Nico were missing, that would be a huge win.
I agree and INT’s are going to happen but I think what we have to limit is when they happen. We are going to be good enough to overcome an INT against ETSU but throwing one in the Swamp or at Bama could mean the difference in a win or a loss.

Hopefully CJH will have a plan that limits those situations and our run game is good enough to control the game without having to force the ball in the pass game.
 
#74
#74
3,300 yards 36 TDs and 12 ints
Yeah I’ll take that.
Along with Bishop 900 yards. Lewis 600 yards. Thomas 400 yards.

Matthews 800 yards receiving and 11 TDs
Brazzell 600 yards 4 TDs
Kitz 400 receiving 5 TDs
Davis 400 receiving 5 TDs

Arion Carter 80 tackels
Ed Spillman 74 tackles 5 sacks

Josh Joseph’s is a MAN- 54 tkls, 6 sacks

Redmond 24 tkls, 10 pbu, 3 INT
We will run for 2400 yards so add some to their totals.
 
#75
#75
This one with ugly maybe different.

Early in season, no film to study and Ugly will also have mediocre inexperienced QB against a very stout hopefully very aggressive defense and definitely a very loud crowd.
Yep I just think about how Kentucky almost beat UGA early at home, and think if we get them in that same situation then we can absolutely beat them… I stop making the mistake of thinking that Tennessee will ever catch a sleep walking UGA though.. I do think we can get them but it will most definitely be an ugly one.
 
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