Tennessee cast as overwhelming underdog in rivalry games, per Vegas sports book

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Vegas like to make easy money off of emotionally unstable Vols fans, and residents of the state of Florida.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Agreed. The only one of those that surprised me was the Florida game.

We'll beat the spread against Bama, though it's not likely we win the game. And we may not be within 2 scores at the final cannon. Hoping we are, that it's a well contested match.

Florida should be a pick'em on neutral field, give the Gators 3-4 points for the Swamp. Not 9, that's too much.

UGa a pick'em as well, slight lean to us for Neyland.

So yeah, the Florida thing is just odd. Wonder if Vegas is going to try to make a lot of $$ of Vols fans diving inside the spread.
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Not a betting man but 9 vs UF would garner some action.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Can see the big spread against Bama.
UGA game is pretty close.

Not sure where you get UF by 9. At best a slight favorite at home. At least at this juncture.
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Unfortunately history shows 1 win in the last 13 games. UT has shown the ability to wet the bed continuously against UF, especially in Gainesville. If I was in Vegas I would continue to pick UF to until the Vols show otherwise. As much as I hate it and UF, our history is what it is.
 
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LA Vol said:
The UF line isn't all that surprising, really. UT hasn't won in the Swamp since 2003. Neither UT nor CBJ are getting much respect this year. And UF is getting more respect than they deserve. Most analysts are predicting UT to have a tough time taking a new QB into the Swamp and coming out with a win. Whether we will or not is TBD.
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I agree in general, but the last few games have been close, one of them being in Gainesville. Long gone are the Meyer and Spurrier curb stompings.
 
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midtnvol2 said:
Unfortunately history shows 1 win in the last 13 games. UT has shown the ability to wet the bed continuously against UF, especially in Gainesville. If I was in Vegas I would continue to pick UF to until the Vols show otherwise. As much as I hate it and UF, our history is what it is.
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I don't disagree with the idea that UF should be favored. More with the amount.
 
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BeecherVol said:
I don't disagree with the idea that UF should be favored. More with the amount.
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That is probably from no real playing time from Dormady for them to judge him by. Plus the three big stars on defense that have to be replaced this year.
 
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IknoxvolsI said:
After the past two years, I can see this. It's called expectations. Jones has been here long enough to know what they can expect of him and thus it shows.
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So what do they expect? The team of 2015 that got a lead and blew it or the team of 2016 that got behind and found ways to catch up and win? And do they expect injuries to decimate the team?

Each of the 4 teams Jones has fielded has been different. There are some things to expect - but that does not lead to the sky is falling. Actually it leads to a very different conclusion.

- First year: Not enough good players to compete.
- Second year: Players too young, true freshman filling voids. Tennessee was able to pull things together and win 4 of the last 5.
- Third year: Team had trouble closing the deal in games and ran out of steam thus losing 4 games they could have won.
- Fourth year: Team had trouble starting games - exact opposite of the third year. Injuries decimated the defensive side of the team.

Personally these years and the teams have been very different. I believe the only thing one can predict right now is that:

- The team will win games. Jones as a coach has generally had winning records. I don't see that changing.

- The team will be competitive and have a chance to win a high percentage of the games played. Except for Alabama in 2016, Tennessee was competitive in all games played in 2016, 2017 and 10 of 12 games in 2015.

This could very well be the year that the team neither starts fast or slow, but plays consistently throughout the entire game which will equal lots of wins.

We will not know what vibe this team gives on that field until the season starts - so predictions are just "let me put it out there and see who bites" at this point in the year.
 
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midtnvol2 said:
That is probably from no real playing time from Dormady for them to judge him by. Plus the three big stars on defense that have to be replaced this year.
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JRM and Cam did not play during most of the season. I agree Barnett will be missed. But there were a lot of players that played last year due to the injuries. They should have a very good understanding of what they need to improve on.
 
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midtnvol2 said:
That is probably from no real playing time from Dormady for them to judge him by. Plus the three big stars on defense that have to be replaced this year.
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I could see that making them a slight favorite. It's not like UF is trotting Tebow or DW out there, they have known issues at that spot. UT just doesn't know yet.
 
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volfan102455 said:
So what do they expect? The team of 2015 that got a lead and blew it or the team of 2016 that got behind and found ways to catch up and win? And do they expect injuries to decimate the team?

Each of the 4 teams Jones has fielded has been different. There are some things to expect - but that does not lead to the sky is falling. Actually it leads to a very different conclusion.

- First year: Not enough good players to compete.
- Second year: Players too young, true freshman filling voids. Tennessee was able to pull things together and win 4 of the last 5.
- Third year: Team had trouble closing the deal in games and ran out of steam thus losing 4 games they could have won.
- Fourth year: Team had trouble starting games - exact opposite of the third year. Injuries decimated the defensive side of the team.

Personally these years and the teams have been very different. I believe the only thing one can predict right now is that:

- The team will win games. Jones as a coach has generally had winning records. I don't see that changing.

- The team will be competitive and have a chance to win a high percentage of the games played. Except for Alabama in 2016, Tennessee was competitive in all games played in 2016, 2017 and 10 of 12 games in 2015.

This could very well be the year that the team neither starts fast or slow, but plays consistently throughout the entire game which will equal lots of wins.

We will not know what vibe this team gives on that field until the season starts - so predictions are just "let me put it out there and see who bites" at this point in the year.
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End result the last two years has been the same-look at his records.

I agree that each team has been different. However, the last two years have shown he can't win the games he should.
 
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I think we can beat Florida and that spread will definitely change drastically up until the actual game starts. I think itll end up being a -3 or -4 in floridas favor just because of the home field factor but also Florida is pretty unproven at quarterback and so are we.. I think it'll be closer to a 3-7 point game either way but a competitive one.. Their offense doesn't scare me in the least but always field a pretty stout d so we'll see..Im honestly thinking Georgia will be the tougher game than the florida one. That jacon Eason kid had one of the better arms as a freshman quarterback that i've ever seen. The pass he made and put it right on the recievers numbers down the sideline with seconds left against us has NFL first rounder written all over it.That was a helluva throw and Im afraid we'll have trouble with Georgia until that kid graduates.. He will no doubt be a first round pick after his senior year if he stays.. And i hate Georgia. gotta give credit where its due. Hes a baller and has a major league arm and can make any throw on the field. Im ready for the season to start!!! Goodness... Its been a long offseason. Go Vols!!
 
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I think most people look at the schedule and see the Bama game as overwhelming.

As for UF, a 9.5 point spread isn't overwhelming by definition...see the "prohibitive" thread from a week or so ago...since we've resorted to splitting hairs over words on here. :)
 
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dduncan4163 said:
https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/tennessee-football-vols-butch-jones-19

The Golden Nugget sports book has installed the Crimson Tide as a 24.5-point favorite over Tennessee in the teams’ Oct. 21 game in Tuscaloosa.
The Gators are a 9.5-point favorite over the Vols in the Sept. 16 game scheduled to be played in The Swamp in Gainesville.

Tennessee is a 1-point favorite over Georgia, an SEC East rival it has beat the past two years, when the teams meet on Sept. 30 in Neyland Stadium.


Of course the lines will move but ouch. Here's hoping we make Vegas look silly in 2017


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TN will cover both lines and will beat Florida outright. I'll take those bets.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/tennessee-football-vols-butch-jones-19

The Golden Nugget sports book has installed the Crimson Tide as a 24.5-point favorite over Tennessee in the teams’ Oct. 21 game in Tuscaloosa.
The Gators are a 9.5-point favorite over the Vols in the Sept. 16 game scheduled to be played in The Swamp in Gainesville.


Tennessee is a 1-point favorite over Georgia, an SEC East rival it has beat the past two years, when the teams meet on Sept. 30 in Neyland Stadium.


Of course the lines will move but ouch. Here's hoping we make Vegas look silly in 2017


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There are a whole lot of nice building in Vegas.....for a reason.
 
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Nah, it's because the MOB needs a way to pick wives.

And launder money!

😉👍🏻
 
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Iam4utalways said:
They should have left the line at 9.5. They could have gotten so much more of dumb gator money.

I've always thought they keep adjusting the line to cover bets on both sides and are in it for the tax(vig). They aren't gambling they are running a business.
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Can't you just see some redneck Gator sitting in the Mirage last Sept. 24th wearing a #15 Tebow jersey with jorts (What else?), buying shots for the bar in front of the sports book at halftime, sure as hell he has a winning ticket in hand (his Gators +9.5 against Tennessee - Hell, that's free money!) that's gonna make those double wide dreams come true... only to see it slip away in a matter of about 23 minutes of actual game time. Life sure can kick you in the balls sometimes. :)
 
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Florida opens w Michigan, who trounced 42-7 them 20 months ago.
If this repeats, we'll be favored in the Swamp.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Can't you just see some redneck Gator sitting in the Mirage last Sept. 24th wearing a #15 Tebow jersey with jorts (What else?), buying shots for the bar in front of the sports book at halftime, sure as hell he has a winning ticket in hand (his Gators +9.5 against Tennessee - Hell, that's free money!) that's gonna make those double wide dreams come true... only to see it slip away in a matter of about 23 minutes of actual game time. Life sure can kick you in the balls sometimes. :)
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That's an insult to rednecks. It more like dumbneck gators.

It was 21-0 and crowded in Neyland and Mrs. Iam4utalways asked the question, "Will it stay this crowded?", I paused to come up with the right answer, "Yes it will.", I've heard some fans left early, but not where we were.

I've never been so glad to be so crowded.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, it was... Sutton was certainly not 100% or even close to it... Ditto for DK Jr. Danny O'Brien (dismissed), JRM, Tuttle and KMac were all out as well. That's depleted. You argue for the hell of it sometimes.
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Sutton not close to 100%? You're guessing here. He was playing in his 3rd consecutive game, 2.5 months after his injury. Ditto for DKJr, only at that point he had an additional week to get healthy, and was playing in his 4th consecutive game. The only missing starters vs Vandy were OBrien, JRM and TKJr, as neither KMac nor Tuttle were starters last year.

We had Barnett, Vickers, Vereen, DKJr, Moseley, Sutton, Gaulden, and Abernathy vs Vandy....8 of our 11 starters opening day vs App State....and gave up 608 yards and 45 points to a very bad Vanderbilt offense.

And btw, who were we missing on offense?? Anybody other than Hurd? No. So, we actually had 19 of 22 starters on the field vs Vanderbilt, and got smoked.

We're both Vol fans, and youre good with all that, that's fine. I'm not. Missing 3 starters and a couple of 2nd string DTs shouldn't result in a humiliating loss to arguably the worst team in the conference.
 
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