Tennessee (and Nebraska) in Limbo ?

#51
#51
UT was ranked Top 10 at a point last season. If not for the loss to A&M, probably a Top 5 match-up looming with Bama. Barring the collapses versus USC and Vandy, UT would have been in a Power 5 bowl. Nebraska, on the other hand, has not been good in a while (I know we aren't either right now).
 
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#52
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AshG said:
Nebraska also abused steroids. Their linebacking corps were physical freaks well beyond what any S&C coach could do.
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UpstateVol613 said:
Also played rapists (Lawrence Phillips, Christian Peters)
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Those plus media exposure. Now anyone can be on tv.

And the Cali kids they used to get. They aren't coming anymore.

Their situation is a completely different beast.

I actually think their rapists were also partial qualifiers. Peters and Phillips both were iirc.
 
#53
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KCMOTIGERS said:
You guys routinely bring in top 25 recruiting classes. You guys are fine. Mizzou was lucky to ever get top 30 and we won this division twice

Tennessee with a real coach is a scary thought. If Pinkel coached at Tennessee he would've dominated.

There are probably better coaches out there than Pinkel avaialble this year. I don't understand why people think Tennessee can't be competitive when they're bringing in great recruiting classes every year. Didn't Dooley get top 20 classes?

You guys are a decent coach away from being relevant. Yes, just "decent." You're in a far, far better position than Nebraska. Nebraska is a glorified version of Iowa
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It always take one of y’all from another school to come here and slap us in the face and wake us the F up.. thanks we needed that.. some Vol fans jus don’t get it.. Vol battered syndrome is real..
 
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VFLintheBurg said:
UT was ranked Top 10 at a point last season. If not for the loss to A&M, probably a Top 5 match-up looming with Bama. Barring the collapses versus USC and Vandy, UT would have been in a Power 5 bowl. Nebraska, on the other hand, has not been good in a while (I know we aren't either right now).
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Nebraska was 7-0 and #7 last year...a week or two later than Tennessee.

Just sayin'
 
#56
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Nebraska and Tennessee are two completely different animals. The Huskers really screwed themselves by leaving the Big 12. That effectively killed their Texas recruiting pipeline that just about every school between the Rockies and the Mississippi relies on. Unless they can start having the same kind of recruiting success nationally again, their best days are long gone. It's kind of a wonder they were ever as good as they were tbh.

Tennessee, although far removed from relevance, sits in a much better situation. The in-state recruiting is still far from elite, but it has improved a great deal, and when supplemented with our typical poaching of Atlanta, Florida, and the Carolinas, it is more than adequate. Tennessee just hasn't been able to get out of its own damn way for the better part of 20 years. The administration has been a joke and certain people therein seem to have been more concerned with their petty power trips than actually running the program. Yet amazingly, all that aside, they are still probably just one good coach away from being relevant.
 
#57
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VolATLien said:
Ture its always been cold, but I think its pretty understood that it will never be a great football program again. The factors players consider are just different now and programs like Nebraska get the short end of it all.
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That's just dumb; quit listening to what click jocks think - all are pretty much legends in their own minds.
 
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orangeluvr said:
VolATLien said:
Taken from a "14 things we hate about the 2017 college football season (so far)" article on MSN.. Everyone is well aware of the Nebraska effect where once power house schools due to changing social economic factors (Nebraska is isolated and cold with low population) are not able to continue success like in the past.. Is it time for Tennessee to face the music too :cray:

I don't think so, think we can offer a sort of football first environment with the right coach, where we're located close to home of our talent base but still kind of away from it all where football is top priority.

Sears has a selective memory, bummer was in in the wilderness from stallings last season(92 or'94?) until saban was hired in '07. oklahoma was in the wilderness from switzer's final year 'til stoops was hired. nebraska hasn't been relevant since osborne stepped down. :question:
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If this is the Ethan Sears (and it appears to be)

"Ethan Sears is currently a freshman at the University of Michigan. He is from Rye, New York and started writing at EthanSears.com, a self-published website. He has loved sports from an early age and intends to have a long career in journalism. Ethan has interned at the New York Post for three straight summers. He is a women's basketball beat writer for the Michigan Daily and contributes to Giants Wire, USA Today's New York Giants blog. You can follow him on Twitter @ethan_sears."

then the problem isn't selective memory. He simply isn't old enough to know anything. But he is from that NE clan that are sure they know everything about the rest of the country without ever having been there.
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Catbone said:
Unfortunately that means absolutely nothing to recruits and this new generation of fans. Just because we were great 20 years ago doesn't mean we will be great again. It all starts at the top.
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Of course, it shouldn't be too difficult to explain away the difference in playing in front of 100K fans in Neyland vs 40K fans somewhere "relevant". Pretend all you want that the facilities made possible by history don't matter, but I think you'll find they do. Historic programs may have dips, but look for a list of historically relevant major FBS programs that have simply died due to lack of recruits, cold weather, etc. Even I don't think that millennials are that stupid.
 
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Catbone said:
Unfortunately that means absolutely nothing to recruits and this new generation of fans. Just because we were great 20 years ago doesn't mean we will be great again. It all starts at the top.
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Sure, but its just like the article. A good coach can flip this program in no time. Not to long ago their were similiar jokes about Alabama, yet young people cant fathom that.
 
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#62
Kentucky brought in nice recruiting classes but they aren't competitive because they don't have the coaching. Did anybody see the Kentucky-Florida game?

Mississippi State doesn't have great recruiting classes yet they can compete with Alabama and LSU.

Tennessee is almost guaranteed to get better recruiting classes than Kentucky and Miss State.

You guys just need to get a legitimate coach this time around. Soon Tennessee will be a hard game on teams schedules.
 
#63
#63
I'd say Tennessee football currently resides on the southern border of limbo. Our team is closer to the Cal State Santa Cruz team than the tide.
 
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#64
#64
Ever been in Nebraska? Get 10 miles west of Lincoln and there isn’t a dam thing for 500 miles. Nothing but nothing. Depressing state IMO.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
was Nebraska ever high population and not cold? Winning is Cyclical....it is what it is. Florida is high population and warm, Miami, FSU, UCLA, USC,...
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Exactly, and how many years has Miami struggled? And what bowl game is fl st and uf going to?
 
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MSCE09 said:
19 seasons ago, so your point is I rounded one year?
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You actually said it was 20 years since we were good. It was 19 since we won the national championship. 16 seasons ago we finished #4 which also would qualify as being "good". And 4 out of 5 straight years ending in 2007, Tennessee finished in the top 25, and 12th in 2007. Does 12th and having 10 wins not count as being "good"? I think it does and that was 10 years ago, not 20.

I just completely disagree with your statement. If you are honest, I think you also disagree with yourself.
 
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#69
#69
We haven't been good in 10 years. We won't be good again anytime soon. Its not the fans fault. We've had an Athletic Department making every bad decision possible.

No matter what you think about the fans over the weekend, Schiano was a terrible hire who was going to be Derek Dooley part 3, or Butch Jones part 2. Moral victories and homecoming wins. Occasional 5 - 3 win SEC seasons.

We aren't going to get another good coach here without dumb luck. We could have with the right money and management this time. We won't get another time. Never been a better year to go looking never been deeper pockets to go shopping with.

Ain't coming around again.
 
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