Tennessean Interviews Mike Hamilton

[WA_Vol]

Most AD's should know you don't blame fans for a team's performance. It was a mistake to even suggest it. The only thing that's going to change the performance of this team is the coaches and players and the AD can't fire the players.

 

[rexvol]

My take is that the whole interview is ambiguous. You could take from it whatever you like. I think Hambone is straddling the fence, which he should, just in case Fulmer rattles of 8 straight wins and gets to ATL. In his effort not to state a clear position, he leaves his comments open to interpretations that could equally validate or anger fans on either side of the Fulmer debate. We will know a lot more on Sunday.

as this interview pertains to Phil you are spot on, but he did make his position pretty clear as to who he considers important. Unless you are a STH or a donor, you are not it.

 

[volfanbill]

as this interview pertains to Phil you are spot on, but he did make his position pretty clear as to who he considers important. Unless you are a STH or a donor, you are not it.

where does he say that? He doesn't. You take a sentence, fail to read the rest of the paragraph and base these assumptions on what little bit you read.

 

[dickens821]

as this interview pertains to Phil you are spot on, but he did make his position pretty clear as to who he considers important. Unless you are a STH or a donor, you are not it.

Either your sight is terrible or you need some remedial reading classes. :crazy:

 

[Vercingetorix]

as this interview pertains to Phil you are spot on, but he did make his position pretty clear as to who he considers important. Unless you are a STH or a donor, you are not it.

Even if had had said that, as a UTK alumnus I'd be fine with it. Donors and STHs are the lifeblood of the program; that's Hamilton's constituency. Jim from Dandridge is irrelevant.

 

[justingroves]

Bill, comments like that make you sound like a complete jerk.

Kettle meet pot

 

[tennaseevol]

Most AD's should know you don't blame fans for a team's performance. It was a mistake to even suggest it. The only thing that's going to change the performance of this team is the coaches and players and the AD can't fire the players.

So you don't agree that the crowd noise can affect the players in a positive or negative way?

 

[WA_Vol]

Adding club seating for the big donors, while getting the cheapest (and probably most profitable) hot dog vendors for the rest of the stadium is good business but isn't going to get a lot of accolades from most of the fans.

Then go suggest part of the reason UT hasn't been as successful at home is because of the fan support, is bad PR.

 

[dickens821]

Adding club seating for the big donors, while getting the cheapest (and probably most profitable) hot dog vendors for the rest of the stadium is good business but isn't going to get a lot of accolades from most of the fans.

Then go suggest part of the reason UT hasn't been as successful at home is because of the fan support, is bad PR.

.... Business is what it is about. You are still going to go to the games. We will still average >100,000 people at every game. Having the people pay for those club seats, and pay for the crappy (cheap for the university, expensive for us) is just the way for the AD to make more money.

I'm telling you all. Money grubbing Mike Hamilton = Best thing for UT's AD.

 

[rexvol]

where does he say that? He doesn't. You take a sentence, fail to read the rest of the paragraph and base these assumptions on what little bit you read.

I look at it and say, 'Are these people our season-ticket holders and are they donors?' I talk to season-ticket holders and donors.

at that point he made some pandering comments about the guy at the gas station, but the fact that he says, "Are these people...." clearly, clearly, shows you what he's thinking.

 

[volfanbill]

.... Business is what it is about. You are still going to go to the games. We will still average >100,000 people at every game. Having the people pay for those club seats, and pay for the crappy (cheap for the university, expensive for us) is just the way for the AD to make more money.

I'm telling you all. Money grubbing Mike Hamilton = Best thing for UT's AD.

reading these posts, i'm pretty certain some of our fanbase could handle being fans of other schools. I guess we should just bring back the good ole boy system. Bring back Dickey, Battle, Majors, keep Fulmer.

MH has revitalized so much of our atheltic program, why not give him his chance to finish the job? They are already writing him for no good reason.

 

[volfanbill]

I look at it and say, 'Are these people our season-ticket holders and are they donors?' I talk to season-ticket holders and donors.

at that point he made some pandering comments about the guy at the gas station, but the fact that he says, "Are these people...." clearly, clearly, shows you what he's thinking.

yeah, it clearly shows me that he listens to everybody. You took it your way. You put extra words into the conversation that were never said.

 

[Business]

Even if had had said that, as a UTK alumnus I'd be fine with it. Donors and STHs are the lifeblood of the program; that's Hamilton's constituency. Jim from Dandridge is irrelevant.

Very true, but Business 101, baby. Don't even come close to insulting your customers. None of them from Wallace Reginold Goldweight III from Brentwood to David Joe Johnson from Sneedville. It's not good policy.

Even if the customers are different (which they very much are) you must make them all feel (at least when giving an interview that David Joe can read) the same.

 

[rexvol]

Even if had had said that, as a UTK alumnus I'd be fine with it. Donors and STHs are the lifeblood of the program; that's Hamilton's constituency. Jim from Dandridge is irrelevant.

completely disagree, one saturday stop everybody that's not an alum from entering and see what happens. Stop the sale of UT merchandise to anyone that's not a donor or an alum or a sth'er.

 

[orange+white=heaven]

I'll have to admit, this morning when I first saw this article, I did not foresee the thread on it becoming an indictment of Hamilton. I figured it would begin another Fulmer debate.

For the record, I've seen nothing yet to make me think MH is anything but a plus for the University and the Athletics Department.

I also give him credit for even granting the interview in such a tumultuous time for the football program.

 

[WA_Vol]

So you don't agree that the crowd noise can affect the players in a positive or negative way?

UT's record at home isn't better then their road record. It hasn't affected UT's win column to any noticable degree.

I think a 100k stadium filled to capacity is intimidating itself, although I agree the crowd noise isn't what it was in the late 90's, it's still considerable.

 

[Business]

I'll have to admit, this morning when I first saw this article, I did not foresee the thread on it becoming an indictment of Hamilton. I figured it would begin another Fulmer debate.

For the record, I've seen nothing yet to make me think MH is anything but a plus for the University and the Athletics Department.

I also give him credit for even granting the interview in such a tumultuous time for the football program.

Let me state this. I'm a Hamilton fan, I think he's done good but the guy needs to rethink his interview techniques. They are smug at best.

Never, Never, Never, Never should an AD of a program like Tennessee give an interview where there is even a shadow of doubt where certain fans stand in his eyes. He did, he gave a shadow of a doubt that he gives more weight to one side of the argument.

Old guys that have followed Tennessee since Hamilton was in diapars are going to be pissed that he even mentioned something like that.

There is a difference in them, I agree with that. You have to listen to Haslm, Thorton, etc... Their opinion will matter more and a rational person will know that, but don't make it seem that way.

 

[rexvol]

Kettle meet pot

I like the way you omit the next sentence after that, interesting way of trying to slander me. good luck with that.

 

[WA_Vol]

.... Business is what it is about. You are still going to go to the games. We will still average >100,000 people at every game. Having the people pay for those club seats, and pay for the crappy (cheap for the university, expensive for us) is just the way for the AD to make more money.

I'm telling you all. Money grubbing Mike Hamilton = Best thing for UT's AD.

I agree business is what its all about. But its not business savy, to give coaches raises for 9-4 season when you could be buying them out the next season.

 

[TBALLVOL]

Hey Mr. Drysdale, We appreciate the fancy mansion, but it's still OUR house. We'd appreciate it if you would ask us first, instead of Mr. Fancy pants, before you go moving the furniture around. Granny would be a heap upset, and if Granny ain't happy, Ain't nobody happy!

 

[volfanbill]

If Hamilton is so business savy, why is he giving raises to coaches for 9-4 seasons and bowl losses? He doesn't seem to have too tight of purse strings then.

because it's part of the recruiting game. You have to at least pretend you have faith in your coaching staff and that they are going to be around. MH has repeatedly said 10 seasons without an SECC are unacceptable.

 

[orange+white=heaven]

Let me state this. I'm a Hamilton fan, I think he's done good but the guy needs to rethink his interview techniques. They are smug at best...

I'm reminded of how we all often read into the written word more intent, or emotion, than is actually there.

That being said, on this....

Never, Never, Never, Never should an AD of a program like Tennessee give an interview where there is even a shadow of doubt where certain fans stand in his eyes. He did, he gave a shadow of a doubt that he gives more weight to one side of the argument.

You are 100% correct.

I looked for an audio file of the INTVW to seek clarity, but the TNsean has not yet joined the rest of the print world in that website innovation...

 

[volgal]

Finally! Since it's my fault as a fan there's only one thing that can be done - PUT ME IN PHIL!!!! I still have my eligibility, a knee brace and eye black.

 

[rexvol]

because it's part of the recruiting game. You have to at least pretend you have faith in your coaching staff and that they are going to be around. MH has repeatedly said 10 seasons without an SECC are unacceptable.

I hope you didnt type this with a straight face.

 

[VolBeef88]

I'm reminded of how we all often read into the written word more intent, or emotion, than is actually there.

That being said, on this....


You are 100% correct.

I looked for an audio file of the INTVW to seek clarity, but the TNsean has not yet joined the rest of the print world in that website innovation...

I agree with this statement. I didn't take any offense to what he said at all. The comment about the fans was taken by me that the place has not been as loud as it could be. Interviews by the AD of any major school is usually greeted by some in a negative manner. To me it seemed like very much a business approach. But then again I don't live my life looking to blame people or looking to be offended.