Tennesee set the precedent for football when they fired CPF

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Vercingetorix said:
If you break up with a terrible girlfriend and don't get laid for two years afterwards, does that mean you were stupid to break up with her in the first place? Or that just that you've been a loser afterwards?
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So you're saying CPF was a terrible coach or you're a loser & haven't gotten laid in 2 years? Well CPF wasn't a terrible coach no matter how you choose to try & twist it.
 
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DarthVisor said:
Fulmer was the reason UT football needed to be 'turned around.'
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Yep. UT's average decade was 8-4. Except the 90's of course. The "slide" was 29-21. People just thought cuz Bama got Saban & Florida plucked Meyer that we could unceremoniously dump Phil and grab us one. WRONG. Now they are too far gone to admit they are wrong. Fairly simple. We have 1 title in 50 years people. And farther from it now than at anytime during Fulmer's run. Looks like we need to "turn around" agaiin.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If you break up with a terrible girlfriend and don't get laid for two years afterwards, does that mean you were stupid to break up with her in the first place? Or that just that you've been a loser afterwards?
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That's not bad, but the analogy isn't quite right.

First girlfriend was (at minimum) second best girlfriend EVER, and for a long time was really, really good. Even when she put on a little weight, it was better than anything you'd seen in a good long while.

Since then though, you've had one girlfriend with an STD who ran off in the middle of the night with Steff McKee. The next girlfriend only does handjobs, and bad ones at that.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
That's not bad, but the analogy isn't quite right.

First girlfriend was (at minimum) second best girlfriend EVER, and for a long time was really, really good. Even when she put on a little weight, it was better than anything you'd seen in a good long while.

Since then though, you've had one girlfriend with an STD who ran off in the middle of the night with Steff McKee. The next girlfriend only does handjobs, and bad ones at that.
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Now THAT is analogous to our situation.
 
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rkvdg said:
If CPF wasn't allow to turn things around after his bad 3 year run .(well we almost won the sec championship that second year but that didn't count) Then how can the AD justify letting this go any further . Not a hater but just asking the question if 2 out of 3 while winning the east wasn't good enough how in the heII is this.
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Because Fulmer had a good program and managed to run it into the ground. Dooley came into a mess which was partly caused by Fulmer. That's how.
 
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rkvdg said:
If CPF wasn't allow to turn things around after his bad 3 year run .(well we almost won the sec championship that second year but that didn't count) Then how can the AD justify letting this go any further . Not a hater but just asking the question if 2 out of 3 while winning the east wasn't good enough how in the heII is this.
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Gotta love the "that one didn't count" part of it. :eek:lol:

People talk about Fulmers bad run and he was letting the program fall apart yet we were 1 year removed from playing for the SEC title. With Dooley, we just hope and pray to beat Vandy. SEC title talk would be an absolute joke for this coaching staff.
 
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I don't know what precedent we set. Coaches usually get fired when they stop winning.

No one wanted Hamilton to hire Dooley to replace him. If you fire the CEO of a failing company and replace him with a janitor, you're probably going to get worse results, but it doesn't change the fact that the company was already failing.
 
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PimpVol said:
Now THAT is analogous to our situation.
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Actually, on girlfriend #2 should have said "only does handjobs, and you know you could do a better job at it. She also says you have to respect "the Process"."

Missed a chance at some real comedy there.
 
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alaVOL said:
Fulmer had a lot of insulation because of the success of the 90's and a NC. If he had not had said success he'd been fired a lot sooner.
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That sir is about the most ignorant comment i have seen on here yet, If Saban goes 6-6 next year, you think they will fire him to?:cray::cray:
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Actually, on girlfriend #2 should have said "only does handjobs, and you know you could do a better job at it. She also says you have to respect "the Process"."

Missed a chance at some real comedy there.
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I always wondered what the purpose of a handjob is. If the girl is there with you, there are MANY things she could be doing other than wasting her time with that. Just saying.
 
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govols/cc said:
So you're saying CPF was a terrible coach or you're a loser & haven't gotten laid in 2 years? Well CPF wasn't a terrible coach no matter how you choose to try & twist it.
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It was a bad analogy because I guess you can't do anything but take it literally. What I mean is that just because things haven't gone well since a decision doesn't invalidate the decision in the first place. Fulmer was a really good coach in the 90s. He was not a really good coach in the 2000s. You can blame it on all the competition getting better while he stood still, you can blame it on Fulmer getting complacent -- whatever the cause, the result was that Fulmer wasn't winning anymore, and the talent had dropped off precipitously, and he'd already he planned to stay several more years. He had to go.

He did not, however, have to be eventually replaced by a minor leaguer with a losing record in the WAC. But just because that was handled incompetently doesn't mean that we didn't need to make a change to begin with.
 
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jboyblues said:
That sir is about the most ignorant comment i have seen on here yet, If Saban goes 6-6 next year, you think they will fire him to?:cray::cray:
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If Saban ever went 10 years without an SEC championship and had 2 losing seasons in 4 years, I guarantee you he would be fired from Alabama.
 
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so when UT gets a new coach will you fulmer guys get behind him?? my guess is no cause yall are like the ex gf's that never give up over being hurt
 
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PimpVol said:
Not without a plan going forward. Not in my opinion anyway. But, you never know.
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No one asked Hamilton to fire Fulmer without a plan going forward. Actually, come to think of it, no one asked for Hamilton to have that position anyway, except Fulmer.
 
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PimpVol said:
Yep. It was. Basically a poorly worded Fulmer bash.
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If pointing out that we had to get rid of guy who declined to an unacceptable level of performance, and then told everybody that he was going to hang around for several more years so he could hit some arbitrary number of wins just to satisfy his own ego -- if that counts as a "Fulmer bash," then yep, I guess I'm guilty.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If pointing out that a guy who declined to an unacceptable level of performance, and then told everybody that he was going to hang around for several more years so he could hit some arbitrary number of wins just to satisfy his own ego -- if that counts as a "Fulmer bash," then yep, I guess I'm guilty.
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:yes:
 
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For people that bring up the 2007 SEC title... I would rather have kiffins year than that one. It was a joke that we were in that game. Lost by 14 to Cal, 39 to UF, 24 to Bama(Before bama was what it is now), edged out a decent at best USCe team in OT. We were not an SEC championship caliber team. So that is not much of a valid argument. Kiffin competed with UF, definitely with Bama (when they were the bama we know now), beat the crap out of UGA and USCe. he did have the one bad loss to UCLA which you could equate to Cal i guess. but still. you cant use 2007 as defense to fulmer. but true I would take that now I guess
 
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