Ten ways to make Americans love soccer.....

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1) Allow timeouts ( In case need to go get a beer and don't have TiVo).
2) Divide the game into four quarters.
3) Allow use of hands.
4) Allow tackling.
5) Allow time outs.
6) Allow cheerleaders.....scantily dressed.
7) Let each goal count six points.
8) Allow free kick after each goal for one point.
9) Have players wear helmets
10) Have the world cup every year and call it the..... SUPERBOWL!!! :eek:lol:
 
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This guy is hilarious. I think he's actually jealous of all the attention soccer is getting with the World Cup. He probably got cut from the soccer team in high school.
 
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1) Allow timeouts ( In case need to go get a beer and don't have TiVo).
2) Divide the game into four quarters.
3) Allow use of hands.
4) Allow tackling.
5) Allow time outs.
6) Allow cheerleaders.....scantily dressed.
7) Let each goal count six points.
8) Allow free kick after each goal for one point.
9) Have players wear helmets
10) Have the world cup every year and call it the..... SUPERBOWL!!! :eek:lol:

did you not learn anything from the way your last thread turned out?
 
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LOL.

In all seriousness, though, I think the game would be more enjoyable if the field were smaller and there was more action around the goal creating more scoring chances.

The problem I find with soccer is the lack of scoring opportunities. Hockey doesn't have a lot of scoring, but it has a TON of scoring chances. Soccer, on the other hand, has neither.

If the field were smaller it would make for quicker gameplay (less tossing the ball all around the enormous field of play, and more movement towards the goal), and more scoring chances.

Also, divide the game into 4 25-minute quarters. Allows for stoppage of play, some commercials, bathroom and refreshment breaks.

I think soccer has potential, but the way it's played now just doesn't appeal to the average Americans.
 
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LOL.

In all seriousness, though, I think the game would be more enjoyable if the field were smaller and there was more action around the goal creating more scoring chances.

The problem I find with soccer is the lack of scoring opportunities. Hockey doesn't have a lot of scoring, but it has a TON of scoring chances. Soccer, on the other hand, has neither.

If the field were smaller it would make for quicker gameplay (less tossing the ball all around the enormous field of play, and more movement towards the goal), and more scoring chances.

Also, divide the game into 4 25-minute quarters. Allows for stoppage of play, some commercials, bathroom and refreshment breaks.

I think soccer has potential, but the way it's played now just doesn't appeal to the average Americans.

None of those changes are feasible. It's the most popular sport in the world for a reason.. but it's the mindset Americans were raised with that make it so unpopular here.

You shrink the field then you will either have less players on the field - or if you tried to keep 11 you would probably have less scoring chances due to it being so cramped up. You change the # of players and that changes the whole game.. kinda like trying to play 7v7 football like some high schools or arena football. Arena football hasn't ever really caught on and its smaller and has more scoring so I'm not sure that would fix anything anyway.
 
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for the most part, it really depends on what you grew up with. i'm not saying people can't become fans of something later on.....but over here almost everyone that watches sports was exposed to football, baseball, and/or basketball at an early age and grew up with them so it's only natural to be biased towards those things and less accepting of other sports. the same can be said about the rest of the world's relationship with soccer or even australia's fascination with rugby.

that being said, that still doesn't mean you have to be a d-bag about other "outside sports" and bash them to death like some. if some people had more of an open mind about things then we wouldn't be stuck with ridiculous threads like these quite as often.
 
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None of those changes are feasible. It's the most popular sport in the world for a reason.. but it's the mindset Americans were raised with that make it so unpopular here.

You shrink the field then you will either have less players on the field - or if you tried to keep 11 you would probably have less scoring chances due to it being so cramped up. You change the # of players and that changes the whole game.. kinda like trying to play 7v7 football like some high schools or arena football. Arena football hasn't ever really caught on and its smaller and has more scoring so I'm not sure that would fix anything anyway.

A lot of it has to do with mindset, but I think most of it has to do with Americans having other sport options to watch and participate in, which, in turn, change how we view soccer.

I don't understand how a smaller field is not feasible. 22 huge football players in pads fit on a 120 X 53 yard field, but 22 skinny soccer players couldn't?

As far as excitement goes, football, basketball, and hockey are far more exciting than soccer because the action doesn't seem to have such long lulls of seemingly meaningless action. This is just my opinion.

Also, the offsides rule is just gay. It's already stole two crucial goals from the US team, too. Soccer should have a rule similar to the blue-line in hockey, instead, imo.

American entertainment choices are what kills soccer's chances of mass popularity here. Football, basketball, baseball, and hockey reel in the big bucks and that's where all the best athletes go.

Soccer, in comparison to those sports, is slow, boring, and low-scoring in its current form to most Americans.

I'm trying to "get in" to soccer. It's still a slow-go for me, though.
 
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LOL.

In all seriousness, though, I think the game would be more enjoyable if the field were smaller and there was more action around the goal creating more scoring chances.

The problem I find with soccer is the lack of scoring opportunities. Hockey doesn't have a lot of scoring, but it has a TON of scoring chances. Soccer, on the other hand, has neither.

If the field were smaller it would make for quicker gameplay (less tossing the ball all around the enormous field of play, and more movement towards the goal), and more scoring chances.

Also, divide the game into 4 25-minute quarters. Allows for stoppage of play, some commercials, bathroom and refreshment breaks.

I think soccer has potential, but the way it's played now just doesn't appeal to the average Americans.

The best thing about soccer is how exciting it is when they do score.. If they made the field smaller just to have more goals it would be about as exciting as watching lacrosse.

Scoring the only goal in the 92nd minute of the game is pretty freaking exciting, at least to me.
 
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The best thing about soccer is how exciting it is when they do score.. If they made the field smaller just to have more goals it would be about as exciting as watching lacrosse.

Scoring the only goal in the 92nd minute of the game is pretty freaking exciting, at least to me.

But, see, for me the problem is that the game was barely exciting at all until the 91st minute.

There were small spurts of exciting action, like our called-back goal and the Algerian shot off our crossbar.

But when you have a 90+ minute game and only a few short moments are extremely exciting, I think that's a problem. At least, that's how I feel about it.

Edit: And also, there isn't a lot of scoring in hockey, but it's still perceived better by Americans than soccer is. Why is that? I believe it's scoring chances. Hockey goalies have to stop 30+ shots on goal a game, but still most games are still like 2-1, 3-2, 4-1 kinda scores and rarely higher.

Soccer needs more scoring chances, because they induce the excitement--not just trolling a ball around a massive field and finally working your way to the goal every once and a while.
 
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A lot of it has to do with mindset, but I think most of it has to do with Americans having other sport options to watch and participate in, which, in turn, change how we view soccer.

I don't understand how a smaller field is not feasible. 22 huge football players in pads fit on a 120 X 53 yard field, but 22 skinny soccer players couldn't?

As far as excitement goes, football, basketball, and hockey are far more exciting than soccer because the action doesn't seem to have such long lulls of seemingly meaningless action. This is just my opinion.

Also, the offsides rule is just gay. It's already stole two crucial goals from the US team, too. Soccer should have a rule similar to the blue-line in hockey, instead, imo.

American entertainment choices are what kills soccer's chances of mass popularity here. Football, basketball, baseball, and hockey reel in the big bucks and that's where all the best athletes go.

Soccer, in comparison to those sports, is slow, boring, and low-scoring in its current form to most Americans.

I'm trying to "get in" to soccer. It's still a slow-go for me, though.

Soccer and football can't even be compared at all here in terms of the field usage. The games are completely different. It wouldn't be soccer with a cramped field. You couldn't pass without getting the ball intercepted every time.. it changes the whole dynamic. If soccer players all bunched up around the ball at all times - then sure it would be enough space like football - but that's not how the game is meant to be played.

Offsides only cost us one - and how is it gay? You want people cherry picking the whole game? Maybe it's 'gay' because it controversial just like the block/charge or Pass interference or a holding call or whatever... but it's definitely needed. Hockey's goals are also waaay smaller obviously so it really changes things too. 1v1 with the goal keeper in soccer and hockey are quite different due to that.. I just think it would really cheapen the game.

I love the art of timing runs at the right moment and lead passes. All about timing trying to beat the defender but stay onside in the process.
 
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the rarity of scoring in top tier soccer play is the reason why the goals are so thrilling in the first place. if you added elements that made it to where it was more of a back and forth contest then it would take away from the game.
 
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Soccer is THE most popular sport in the world. Just because some people think soccer is boring isn't going to change that.
 
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I'm afraid until the time that Football is outlawed, soccer will be an also ran in this country. On the other hand a world championship would work miracles towards that goal.....in a step child or kissing cousin kind of way.
 
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Look, I'm trying to like soccer. There are just fundamental elements to the game that I don't like which keeps me from having any true genuine interest in the sport.

Soccer might be the most popular sport in the world, but that doesn't make it the best sport. There are probably many reasons why soccer is popular worldwide (except in the USA), and it's not just the game itself.

I don't want to be seen as one of those soccer-bashing ignorant fools who hate on it simply because it's different. I am certainly not that.

However, soccer just lacks something to me. Any play in football has the potential to be a touchdown. Any pitch in baseball has the potential to be a base hit or home run. Basketball has 3s, slam-dunks, and fast breaks. Hockey also has fast-breaks; along with the slap-shot, and excellent goalie saves. Soccer just seems to move like a slug in the regard that it takes a long time to ever set up a potential scoring chance, and takes even longer for a goal to actually materialize.

Here is a comment from a reader of Clay Travis' blog about the World Cup (this is not me, but I agree with much of what this person said):

"It's not the lack of scoring that's the problem, it's the lack of scoring chances. Hockey isn't that high scoring either, but there's almost always a bunch of quality scoring chances, and the goalies have to play well to keep the score low. Soccer isn't like that, as there are rarely any quality scoring chances, and when they DO happen, they usually end up in the back of the net. Don't believe me? Let's look at the stats.

In 64 matches of the 2006 World Cup, there were just 147 goals scored (a paltry 2.3 goals per match or 1.15 per team per match). Worse, there were only 734 shots on goal in the entire tournament. That's an average of just 11.5 shots on goal total between the two teams (so 20 percent of the actual shots on goal end up in the net). Single NHL teams routinely get more than that many shots on goal in a single period. For example, the Washington Capitals averaged an astounding 41.7 shots on goal per game in its seven-game loss to the Montreal Canadiens, but Canadien goalie Jaroslav Halak was so good that the Capitals only scored 3.14 goals per game (just 7.5 percent of the shots went in). Spectacular saves are just as exciting as goals are. Seven other teams averaged at least 31.6 shots per game during the playoffs, and 16 teams averaged at least 30 during the course of the regular season. The team with the least shots on goal during the playoffs was the Colorado Avalanche, who averaged just 24.8 per game in its six-game loss to the San Jose Sharks. Of course, that would probably shatter records in high-level soccer. In the regular season, every single team averaged at least 27.6 shots on goal per game. So again, soccer's problem isn't the the lack of scoring, it's the lack of scoring chances. And yes, soccer is violent, but it's still for wusses. It's all the flopping in soccer that has migrated to the NBA and tainted that sport. Long before the ultimate wuss (Paul Pierce) got taken off in a wheelchair, only to come back and make big shots, soccer players had routinely done the same thing, only it was stretchers instead.
...I'm glad you're not trying to defend the single worst rule in sports (the off sides rule in soccer), which actually penalizes players for playing well offensively and rewards defenders for screwing up. So, if you manage to get behind the defense, that should be a good thing, right? Nope. Soccer has its arbitrary off sides rule, and the play is wiped out. I'm not saying players should be allowed to camp out by the goal when the ball is on the other side of the field, but it's pretty ridiculous when just about every member of both teams is in the box, and the play is STILL off sides. Hockey has a nice blue line that makes everything simple, AND it makes sense. It prevents players from just setting shop in their opponent's zone while the puck is still in their own zone or the neutral zone, but it still allows for exciting breakaways, which are almost nonexistent in soccer. And there's no confusion. If you get in the zone before the puck does, or if it leaves the zone while you're still in, you're off sides. And the line doesn't move around like soccer defenders do."

Edit: Again, the above long quote is not my words, but I agree with much of the sentiment.

If soccer is to ever be popular in the USA, some nuances on how the game is played will have to be tweaked.
 
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If you can actually watch baseball on tv for more than 5 minutes without changing the channel or falling asleep and enjoy it (provided its not the WS because even I can find some enjoyment out of that) - then you can definitely watch soccer and enjoy it.

So I'm not totally buying that. Baseball is a lot slower than soccer imo.
 
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