Tamika Catchings

#27
#27
Dear "Iveleague",

I'm sure having a threesome with your wife and pet dog named "Spotty", and boasting and posting pictures of such act on Instgram and FB is intellectually stimulating to folks like you. You giant of intellectual acumen! Incest -- marrying your own daughter, for example, I've heard is legal in one state, and maybe that's just a different life style to you too. There's no right or wrong, only having a different life style choice. Of course. I'm disrespectful and ignorant b/c I don't approve nor agree with such an act. While we are at it, sexual act with minor is an expression of intellectual acumen I'm pretty sure. There's a corresponding gene for every one of 'em, scientists claim.

Something's wrong with you.

I'm ignorant and hence no match for your intellectual prowess.

You said it, not me.

But read your bible.

I have read the Bible . . . twice through, actually. I'm an atheist and hence don't subscribe to its tenets as I'm sure you feel the need to do, but I appreciate its literary value in a way that I doubt you are capable of.

I will pray for you...

While I appreciate the condescension-laden thought, I'd rather you donate to or volunteer your time at a charity in my name . . . perhaps a women's shelter or your local humane society. It would be more beneficial.
 
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What makes you think homosexuality isn't inborn? I'm not here to argue, either (this really isn't the forum for that), but I am curious why anyone would so readily assume homosexuality is a "lifestyle choice" when all credible modern scientific research, as well as the testimonies of countless homosexuals, attests to the exact opposite.


This is not the forum to debate this argument. I will say though that there are also plenty of people who have testimonies where they have turned away from that lifestyle by the power of God and never went back or have the attraction to the same sex. A woman shared her testimony at my church a few weeks ago. She thought that she was born this way and she forced people to accept her as she was. She lust for women and made her appearance to be as a man.She was a lesbian for 20 years and she encountered so many thoughts and battles in her mind because she still felt empty and deep down she didn't feel right. She said one day she was at a breaking point and she told God if you are real and you are the God that people talk about please take away this ungodly lust and desires and change me. She said all of sudden she felt the power of God and begin to breakdown. She gave her life to Christ and was filled with the Holy Spirit. That desire and lust for women no longer existed. This lady is now a minister and her appearance is totally different and I can tell its genuine. She was a guest speaker. Hold your stones. That was her story and testimony. You may believe this or not. People have their opinions and feel the way they feel about homosexuality. All opinions and beliefs should be respected and stones should not be thrown at a person just because they disagree.
 
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This is not the forum to debate this argument. I will say though that there are also plenty of people who have testimonies where they have turned away from that lifestyle by the power of God and never went back or have the attraction to the same sex. A woman shared her testimony at my church a few weeks ago. She thought that she was born this way and she forced people to accept her as she was. She lust for women and made her appearance to be as a man.She was a lesbian for 20 years and she encountered so many thoughts and battles in her mind because she still felt empty and deep down she didn't feel right. She said one day she was at a breaking point and she told God if you are real and you are the God that people talk about please take away this ungodly lust and desires and change me. She said all of sudden she felt the power of God and begin to breakdown. She gave her life to Christ and was filled with the Holy Spirit. That desire and lust for women no longer existed. This lady is now a minister and her appearance is totally different and I can tell its genuine. She was a guest speaker. Hold your stones. That was her story and testimony. You may believe this or not. People have their opinions and feel the way they feel about homosexuality. All opinions and beliefs should be respected and stones should not be thrown at a person just because they disagree.

Those with red hair can dye their hair black, those who are left-handed can condition themselves to write with their right hands, those born with brown eyes can wear blue contacts, and those with an exceptionally high IQ can play dumb. It still doesn't change who -- or what -- they are. I'm not here to debate the nature of homosexuality, either, nor will I discount what you claim to have been told. What I know, however, is that sexual orientation for the vast, vast majority of people is absolutely not a choice and it is unchangeable; it can be hidden, lied about, and covered up, but it cannot be changed. Regardless of what you believe, it is no cause for anyone to mock, demean, or harass those who are gay or lesbian, and it is especially absurd for anyone to state that they refuse to watch women's basketball because they believe some of those involved to be homosexual.
 
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I don't think society should look at transgender or homosexuality as a sin or character flaw..it is most likely due to a chemical imbalance similar to schizophrenia
 
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Those with red hair can dye their hair black, those who are left-handed can condition themselves to write with their right hands, those born with brown eyes can wear blue contacts, and those with an exceptionally high IQ can play dumb. It still doesn't change who -- or what -- they are. I'm not here to debate the nature of homosexuality, either, nor will I discount what you claim to have been told. What I know, however, is that sexual orientation for the vast, vast majority of people is absolutely not a choice and it is unchangeable; it can be hidden, lied about, and covered up, but it cannot be changed. Regardless of what you believe, it is no cause for anyone to mock, demean, or harass those who are gay or lesbian, and it is especially absurd for anyone to state that they refuse to watch women's basketball because they believe some of those involved to be homosexual.

In any of my post, I never mocked, demeaned or harassed anyone because of their sexual orientation. I never said I wouldn't watch Women's basketball because there may be players that are gay. So I guess you are referring to someone else. You have your belief on this subject and I have mine. With all due respect let's just leave it at that.
 
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I don't think society should look at transgender or homosexuality as a sin or character flaw..it is most likely due to a chemical imbalance similar to schizophrenia

Homosexuality isn't a disease or disorder and should never be viewed as such.I believe, as modern research has shown, that homosexuality is a result of genetic, environmental, and hormonal factors, most of which likely converge during fetal development. Absolutely nothing has ever shown that it is due to a chemical imbalance or other disorder. Those who suffer from schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, for example, have issues that, unless medicated (and sometimes even then), limit their ability to participate fully in society. People who are homosexual do not have a mental disorder that in any way impacts their ability to function normally in society or participate in normal day-to-day activities -- their only limitations in that regard come from OUTSIDE factors, not internal ones.
 
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In any of my post, I never mocked, demeaned or harassed anyone because of their sexual orientation. I never said I wouldn't watch Women's basketball because there may be players that are gay. So I guess you are referring to someone else. You have your belief on this subject and I have mine. With all due respect let's just leave it at that.

I never stated nor implied that you had mocked, demeaned, or harassed anyone. In fact, I commented on your polite and respectful tone. However, if you read through this thread, you will see that others who share your same general view are less . . . judicious . . . in their commentary.
 
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Met her just by chance while she was still playing for Lady Vols. Super sweet young lady. Extremely happy for her.
 
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#38
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You are more than entitled to your own views and opinions, and your thoughtful and polite tone is appreciated. (And I truly say that with utmost sincerity; I won’t “blast” (to use another poster’s words) you for holding an opinion which you have respectfully expressed, even though it differs monumentally from my own opinion.) However, I don’t really get your comment that you don’t agree with homosexuality. To me, that’s akin to stating that one “doesn’t agree” with red hair, left-handedness, or genius-level IQs. All are deviations from the norm, but none are inherently wrong or unnatural. To “disagree” seems a bit out in left field. I think perhaps “disapprove of” might be a slightly more reasonable term (as in, one disapproves of red hair, left-handedness, or genius-level IQs, or one disapproves of homosexuality). Of course, if anyone told me that he or she disapproved of red hair, left-handedness, or exceptionally high IQs, I’d think that was a bit silly . . . just as I think it is a bit silly to disapprove of (or disagree with if that is the term you elect to use) homosexuality. Is it because you mistakenly view homosexuality as simply a behavior, when in reality, sexuality of all stripes is an inborn trait (not unlike hair color, handedness, or IQ)? Help me understand your perspective regarding not agreeing with something that not only exists (with or without any action on the part of the person who is homosexual), but that is just as natural and immutable in its existence as having red hair, being left handed, or possessing an IQ of 160.

I fully agree that the world would be an infinitely better place if people would strive to be kinder and more compassionate to others and, if all else fails (and even if it doesn't), to mind their own business if the issue at hand doesn't involve them.

IMO, people that over use parentheses and make repeated references to IQ scores when they write are lower than red headed left-handers
 
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I never stated nor implied that you had mocked, demeaned, or harassed anyone. In fact, I commented on your polite and respectful tone. However, if you read through this thread, you will see that others who share your same general view are less . . . judicious . . . in their commentary.


Well, you quoted me and had that statement in your response. I am a Christian and I believe people can been changed through the power of God. I disagree that a person is born that way. Your views and mines will always be different. You stated that your were an atheist. So if you don't believe in God, I highly doubt you believe in being bound by a demon spirit and influence in the mind. You don't believe in God's power setting a person free and it does not just regards to just homosexuality. I told you this lady's testimony and you said "if" I were told that. Then you said it still doesn't change who a person is. Like I said, our views and opinions are different regarding this subject. So, its pointless of us going back and forth. More than likely none of us will change the way we view this subject. I have said repeatedly, just because I don't agree with homosexuality, doesn't give me the right to condemn a person who is gay. I show love and respect regardless.
 
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It's a sad state we live in that when a news of a female BB player's engagement breaks and we have to wonder whether the partner is a male or female. One of the reasons I stopped watching or supporting WBB pretty much all together nowadays. What would we tell our kids when a tweet of Holly's engagement gets put out one day?

What does it matter to us, as long as they are happy? People that care about this are bigots. Guess we know where you stand.
 
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Wow....people really think being gay is a choice?!?!?Wake up people. You're either born homo or hetero.....I wish they'll go ahead and "discover" this already!
 
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#42
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Does anyone know anymore than they did when they opened this thread? :)

Congratulations...Tamika. :yes:

GO BIG ORANGE!
 
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#43
#43
I do.

Catch is engaged, to a man, who is an IT professional, from Indy. And she doesn't want to coach bball

I learned good, eh? :)
 
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I do!!!! I also met the young lady and was very impressed with her. With the news of Glory and Holdsclaw,I was just wondering. Not hate!!! just idle curiosity. I've been a women's basketball (including WNBA) fan for many years and watch them religiously. I do not believe in homosexuality but haven't condemned nor intended to create such an ugly thread. So sorry
 
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I am glad Tamika is straight. She is a star Lady Vol. I think highlighting Glory and Britney in news articles hurts recruiting. Most parents want their kids to be straight. That said, I am totally convinced one's sexuality is NOT a choice. People are born one way or the other. Before you attack me, know that I voted for marriage rights for everyone, love many homesexual people and have many homesexual friends, don't discriminate against anyone and don't want anyone to be discriminated against. It just I wish it wouldn't be discussed so much on Lady Vol boards. LOL, you're right, here I am discussing it.....
 
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I am glad Tamika is straight. She is a star Lady Vol. I think highlighting Glory and Britney in news articles hurts recruiting. Most parents want their kids to be straight. That said, I am totally convinced one's sexuality is NOT a choice. People are born one way or the other. Before you attack me, know that I voted for marriage rights for everyone, love many homesexual people and have many homesexual friends, don't discriminate against anyone and don't want anyone to be discriminated against. It just I wish it wouldn't be discussed so much on Lady Vol boards. LOL, you're right, here I am discussing it.....

Please tell me you aren't suggesting that some parents think that if their child comes to UT, that they will "turn" their daughters gay? This is 2015! Surely no one thinks this.
 
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