Taking the year off?

#51
#51
landscapingvol said:
We play in the East with the only unwinnable crossover game being Alabama as it is nearly every season. We played four extremely winnable OOC games last season and went 2-2. Are you suggesting that two teams with new head coaches and two teams with fired head coaches is a tough draw? We also played Kentucky and Auburn. If you want to argue that UF, UGA, UA, Texas A & M are automatic losses, that’s fine but we play 3/4 every season. UT’s schedule is not the reason we are going to finish 3-7/2-8
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Last year has zero to do with this year in terms of scheduling. Additionally, you can't say the same team that lost to BYU and Ga State was the same team that finished the season at 8-5 with multiple comeback wins. Additionally, you still didn't contradict my point. Covid had negative impacts on us that hurt certain personnel groups. This is fact.

And on your last season, it is definitely a reason why we will have have a 3 or 4 or 5 win season at best. We literally went from a 12 game season with 8 conference games to 10 game season with 10 conference opponents that also happened to be two of the better teams in the conference (Auburn and A&M) compared to what other teams got. To sit here and say that losing 4 non conference games with 3 cupcakes in exchange for Auburn and A&M is nothing more than pure partisanship.

It is okay to be upset and to disapprove of Pruitt's job. But to sit here and blindly act like our team faced zero issues as a result of Covid is ignorant.

Some people would rather hate a coach in a sport that doesn't directly impact their lives instead of dealing in reality. Wowza!
 
#52
#52
JMSqb11 said:
Like I said, Pruitt can have issues and mistakes and Covid can negatively impact us.

3 things I can think off the top of my head regarding Covid that have impacted us for the worse:

  • Spring Camp
    • Got canceled / suspended on March 13th
      • This specifically impacted the young guys especially incoming freshmen (EE's) and sophomores. I think the biggest impact of this was Harrison Bailey
  • Coach Fitz left for the Giants on March 19th
    • This happened one week after spring camp getting shutdown. The S&C "work from home" version was basically stopped and players had to wait for guidance. Pruitt didn't hire anyone and that's on him. However, Covid caused our players to have to do S&C in a work from home manner without a clear leader at that position. And while Pruitt chose to not hire a replacement, hiring someone that would immediately be doing facetime and zoom calls with players to get the program going would not be efficient. Especially if new S&C coach changed from Fitz drastically
  • Season Schedule
    • Shrunk from 12 to 10 with all SEC schedule.
      • SEC HQ didn't do anyone favors except Bama (shocker), but we also didn't get to play some cupcakes early on where in theory, our backups across the board would get playing time vs 2 cupcakes in the first 3 weeks. Once again, I think this hurt the QB's the most, but also the offensive line.


I refuse to believe our season's failures are solely due to Pruitt's hands 100%. He has enough things to be blamed for. However, I'm not ignorant enough to think Covid hasn't impacted our program in a way that a first time head coach would be able to prep and handle it with no issues.

I'm also choosing to deal in reality and not get my panties in a wad at the fact that Pruitt is 90% likely to be our coach next season because if we fire him, we are asking boosters to finance a 25 million project to fire him (12 million) and prolly need 12-13 million dollar commitment to hire a new coach because we CAN NOT fire Pruitt and hire someone that isn't a home run hire. And since we are asking Boosters to 25 million to fire and hire coaching staffs, we would likely ask them to cover to the 50 million dollar shortfall as well for a total of 75 million.


Because why would they commit 25 million dollars to something that isn't 100% guaranteed to workout (we could end up with another coaching search in 3-5 years) when they could just pay the same to cut the shortfall in half which is tangible?
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I agree he will be our coach next season but that is irrelevant because we are just putting the search off for another season. Next season we will be replacing our best olineman, wr, and only pass rusher. We are likely to draw a much improved LSU team from the West. It is very likely we will be facing another 6-6 type season which would put Pruitt’s record at 21-25 overall/12-22 SEC. Another year with a limited capacity stadium on top of another poor season could do further financial damage in the long run than another coaching hire, especially if a proven one is hired.
 
#53
#53
landscapingvol said:
We play in the East with the only unwinnable crossover game being Alabama as it is nearly every season. We played four extremely winnable OOC games last season and went 2-2.
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LOL yeah people seem to forget that Pruitt's career started out with us losing to Georgia State at home and then choking to BYU, also at home. The writing has been on the wall since he's been at UT.
 
#54
#54
igotworms said:
Where have they improved since firing butch?
Thats a better indicator of how this staff juat isn't good
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When you have the level of staff turnover that Pruitt has had since he stepped on campus, it's no surprise that player development is suffering. I mean, we didn't even make it through the season with the same staff we started, and I won't be surprised if next year, 50% of the staff is new.
 
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#55
#55
landscapingvol said:
I agree he will be our coach next season but that is irrelevant because we are just putting the search off for another season. Next season we will be replacing our best olineman, wr, and only pass rusher. We are likely to draw a much improved LSU team from the West. It is very likely we will be facing another 6-6 type season which would put Pruitt’s record at 21-25 overall/12-22 SEC. Another year with a limited capacity stadium on top of another poor season could do further financial damage in the long run than another coaching hire, especially if a proven one is hired.
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Except you don't know that because next year we SHOULD have a return to normal in terms of spring camp, fall camp, and 12 game season.

You also don't know who is coming back and taking advantage of the "free year", which could be bad (JG returning) or good (Trey and Kennedy returning because of poor draft grades)
 
#56
#56
JMSqb11 said:
Last year has zero to do with this year in terms of scheduling. Additionally, you can't say the same team that lost to BYU and Ga State was the same team that finished the season at 8-5 with multiple comeback wins. Additionally, you still didn't contradict my point. Covid had negative impacts on us that hurt certain personnel groups. This is fact.

And on your last season, it is definitely a reason why we will have have a 3 or 4 or 5 win season at best. We literally went from a 12 game season with 8 conference games to 10 game season with 10 conference opponents that also happened to be two of the better teams in the conference (Auburn and A&M) compared to what other teams got. To sit here and say that losing 4 non conference games with 3 cupcakes in exchange for Auburn and A&M is nothing more than pure partisanship.

It is okay to be upset and to disapprove of Pruitt's job. But to sit here and blindly act like our team faced zero issues as a result of Covid is ignorant.

Some people would rather hate a coach in a sport that doesn't directly impact their lives instead of dealing in reality. Wowza!
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Realizing a coach is in over his head isn’t the same as hating but nice try. You ignored the fact that UT lost Georgia State and BYU at home OOC last season. I guess Kentucky, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Missouri were not given the memo about the all conference schedule being unfair. A first year head coach at Arkansas drew the toughest schedule, limited off season, and another coach’s roster for the most part yet still has managed to field a competent team. I guess if Pruitt is allowed to finish every season with SC, UAB, UK, Vandy, and Missouri then we might be able to field a competent team. Unfortunately, he lost to UK by 27 this season.
 
#57
#57
JMSqb11 said:
Except you don't know that because next year we SHOULD have a return to normal in terms of spring camp, fall camp, and 12 game season.

You also don't know who is coming back and taking advantage of the "free year", which could be bad (JG returning) or good (Trey and Kennedy returning because of poor draft grades)
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My enthusiasm for a coach losses passion when I hope he hurts the career of a probable 1st round olineman to the point he has to return to improve his draft stock. Here is what I know after nearly three full seasons with Pruitt: qb play is horrendous, oline play is average, defense is 11th in the SEC, offense is 12th, the offense was 12th in league last season, and at least one coach has already been fired this season.
 
#58
#58
landscapingvol said:
Realizing a coach is in over his head isn’t the same as hating but nice try. You ignored the fact that UT lost Georgia State and BYU at home OOC last season. I guess Kentucky, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Missouri were not given the memo about the all conference schedule being unfair. A first year head coach at Arkansas drew the toughest schedule, limited off season, and another coach’s roster for the most part yet still has managed to field a competent team. I guess if Pruitt is allowed to finish every season with SC, UAB, UK, Vandy, and Missouri then we might be able to field a competent team. Unfortunately, he lost to UK by 27 this season.
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And you ignore that the team in the first 2 games was nothing alike the team that finished the final 6-7 games of the season. Additionally, you can't make the claim "we lost to BYU and GSU last year in non conference games" as a reason to say our games this year were going to be tossups outside of the OU game.

You must have not watched a lot of football after the 0-2 start last year and I don't blame you. But last year has nothing to do with this year as the entire season is not comparable. Stevie Wonder can even see that. But hey, keep hating a coach that has no direct impact on your life in a sport that you have no direct impact on.....

Easy to criticize Pruitt for things that have gone unexpectedly this year. However, to sit here and act all high and mighty and say "oh this is just another season" is dumb.

But keep hating man! I know the world always needs a market of hate!
 
#60
#60
landscapingvol said:
My enthusiasm for a coach losses passion when I hope he hurts the career of a probable 1st round olineman to the point he has to return to improve his draft stock. Here is what I know after nearly three full seasons with Pruitt: qb play is horrendous, oline play is average, defense is 11th in the SEC, offense is 12th, the offense was 12th in league last season, and at least one coach has already been fired this season.
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Ah yes because a kid getting a bad draft grade or lower grade than expected is solely 100% responsible for the coach. I guess JG is purposely being downgraded with his prospects because of Pruitt and not his own
 
#61
#61
JMSqb11 said:
And you ignore that the team in the first 2 games was nothing alike the team that finished the final 6-7 games of the season. Additionally, you can't make the claim "we lost to BYU and GSU last year in non conference games" as a reason to say our games this year were going to be tossups outside of the OU game.

You must have not watched a lot of football after the 0-2 start last year and I don't blame you. But last year has nothing to do with this year as the entire season is not comparable. Stevie Wonder can even see that. But hey, keep hating a coach that has no direct impact on your life in a sport that you have no direct impact on.....

Easy to criticize Pruitt for things that have gone unexpectedly this year. However, to sit here and act all high and mighty and say "oh this is just another season" is dumb.

But keep hating man! I know the world always needs a market of hate!
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The reason UT looked “better” at the end of last season is because we ended with 5 very average/poor opponents. The last four opponents we have beaten did/have fired their head coaches with the exception of Indiana in the bowl game: Missouri x 2, Vanderbilt, and South Carolina. Pruitt has beaten a grand total of one SEC team in three years with a winning record in the SEC, UK 2018, and a grand total of three SEC teams with an overall winning record in three years. I can understand your confidence
 
#62
#62
JMSqb11 said:
Ah yes because a kid getting a bad draft grade or lower grade than expected is solely 100% responsible for the coach. I guess JG is purposely being downgraded with his prospects because of Pruitt and not his own
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You are correct, three years with the same coaching staff has no bearing on their performance.
 
#63
#63
landscapingvol said:
The reason UT looked “better” at the end of last season is because we ended with 5 very average/poor opponents. The last four opponents we have beaten did/have fired their head coaches with the exception of Indiana in the bowl game: Missouri x 2, Vanderbilt, and South Carolina. Pruitt has beaten a grand total of one SEC team in three years with a winning record in the SEC, UK 2018, and a grand total of three SEC teams with an overall winning record in three years. I can understand your confidence
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Ah yes. We beat teams better than the two teams we lost too to start the season. Makes total sense as a reason to inject those losses as a reason to somehow compare them to this year when they don't.
 
#65
#65
vol4220 said:
I have often wondered if the coaches and players look at this as a wasted year due to covid and are not giving 100%. The NCAA has already given them a waiver on their eligibility so risking injury in their minds is just not worth it. I hope i'm wrong but it doesn't feel like we are getting the attitude and effort. Go ahead and blame coaching and CJP but i think this is visible across the board.
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Get your ass chewed for taking a play off!
 
#66
#66
vol4220 said:
I have often wondered if the coaches and players look at this as a wasted year due to covid and are not giving 100%. The NCAA has already given them a waiver on their eligibility so risking injury in their minds is just not worth it. I hope i'm wrong but it doesn't feel like we are getting the attitude and effort. Go ahead and blame coaching and CJP but i think this is visible across the board.
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If that is the case with UT, why play at all? Forfeit the games and stop wasting their and our time.
 
#68
#68
I don't know about the year off but somebody might have thought it didn't count.
 
#69
#69
tennesseeduke said:
Penn St
Nebraska
Florida st
Michigan
LSU
Etc... say hello
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Nebraska... Terrible.
Florida state... Dreadful
Ditto for the rest.
Imo, Penn and LSU are the only ones on the list that can possibly right the ship. Your logic is flawed, imo. Tennessee is bad front, back, up, down, sideways. No pandemic or 7 more pandemics will not change the fact we aren't good and the HC sucks.
 
#70
#70
vol4220 said:
I have often wondered if the coaches and players look at this as a wasted year due to covid and are not giving 100%. The NCAA has already given them a waiver on their eligibility so risking injury in their minds is just not worth it. I hope i'm wrong but it doesn't feel like we are getting the attitude and effort. Go ahead and blame coaching and CJP but i think this is visible across the board.
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No
 
#71
#71
tastycar said:
Nebraska... Terrible.
Florida state... Dreadful
Ditto for the rest.
Imo, Penn and LSU are the only ones on the list that can possibly right the ship. Your logic is flawed, imo. Tennessee is bad front, back, up, down, sideways. No pandemic or 7 more pandemics will not change the fact we aren't good and the HC sucks.
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If you read what I commented on you would understand my post!
 
#74
#74
Johnnyreb#VFL said:
After the Georgia game, the team lost its motivation to play.
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Can you blame them though? The defense and the offense are both on the field busting their asses trying to stay in the game with Georgia and then your QB goes and throws ints and pick 6's. All the while they know the QB is jammed so far up Pruitt's ass that he will never make a change at QB so they know they are stuck with JG. It's a pretty grim situation.
 
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#75
#75
BeardedVol said:
Every Saturday I see other teams playing just as hard this year as they do others.

We are just a poorly coached team with little drive or discipline.
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I agree with this. But I would add that the team still seems to want to compete, until the first colossal mistake by our QB during the game. Once that happens, it's game over.
 
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