Taking a look to next year (long)

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#51
Incipient said:
Why do you have Missouri as easier than A&M/MSU?
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I think A&M will be better than MO and MSU is better coached than MO

A&M has recruited a bit better than MO over the past few years so I think they will be more talented next year than MO
 
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#52
TBtheGBwiththeTD said:
I though we were definitely playing Arky next year in Neyland?
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if we play arky next year then that will certainly change the projection

i was not aware this was a definite - i thought nothing was in stone and the closest thing to it was MO in the east and bama being one of West games - thought there was nothing in stone on who the other would be - could be wrong on that, certainly not an insider
 
#53
#53
Our out of conference schedule next season is hilarious...Since when did we turn into Florida?....Anyways, That schedule is set up to SAVE Dooleys job...If he can't win 9 games next season then yes he needs to go....Hate to say that but that's just how I feel...He will have built a legacy of beating teams with losing records...IMO and its only my opinion and I do not care if you agree with it or not, but if he doesn't get that big signature win next season then changes will need to be made.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Our out of conference schedule next season is hilarious...Since when did we turn into Florida?....Anyways, That schedule is set up to SAVE Dooleys job...If he can't win 9 games next season then yes he needs to go....Hate to say that but that's just how I feel...He will have built a legacy of beating teams with losing records...IMO and its only my opinion and I do not care if you agree with it or not, but if he doesn't get that big signature win next season then changes will need to be made.
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What's crazy is I think he could win 9 games still w/o beating a team that will finish the season ranked in the top 25 since the ooc is so soft

my guess is Georgia, bama, and sc or florida (not both) are going to be only teams we play that will be ranked at end of year - so we could lose to georgia, bama, florida - not beat a top 25 team - lose a bowl game and still win 9 games

and many on the board are saying 9 is way too high 3 years in w/ now a full 85 schollies, the entire offense returning, and 3 nfl 1st rounders just on offense - to me 9 is being a bit generous
 
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As much as I dislike a gator fan on this board well because you are a gator you actually post with logic, and hey swamps stink so I can't blame your for wanting to be in the mountains ;-) Anyways it is an insightfull read seeing the facts as we thought they would be from last year. It appears as if most thought 7-5 would be the lowest we would go.

I think the problem lies in a few issues
0-5 for three years in a row in SEC no matter how you toss it is unacceptable.
It is the same thing over and over with no signs of improvement.


How dare you bring logic to this board.
 
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#58
Good Thread. Glad to see insightful posting instead of emotion. DD gets 2013 that is a gimme. His career at Ut does however hinge on next year. I am remaining positive and have been an avid DD supporter. He cannot however survive a bad 2013. Anything less then a 9 or 10 win season and I believe he's in serious trouble. I so hope for the best I really believe he's a class guy. Hart however is so suspect. I just cant trust a bamian. Not sure bout Sal either. Not sure he's as good a DC as some thought, matter of fact im sure of it.
 
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drodvol said:
Good Thread. Glad to see insightful posting instead of emotion. DD gets 2013 that is a gimme. His career at Ut does however hinge on next year. I am remaining positive and have been an avid DD supporter. He cannot however survive a bad 2013. Anything less then a 9 or 10 win season and I believe he's in serious trouble. I so hope for the best I really believe he's a class guy. Hart however is so suspect. I just cant trust a bamian. Not sure bout Sal either. Not sure he's as good a DC as some thought, matter of fact im sure of it.
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So sure you're that you're not sure?
 
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Last season, 2012 was the gimme, with the stipulation that Dooley would have to step up performance and start beating some rivals and decent SEC teams. Not all, just some. How about just one? MSU would have done it or SCAR or UGA-- all totally botched opportunities.

Now we're just kicking the can to 2013? I could see giving CDD the benefit of the doubt, if he had beaten anybody-- ANYBODY-- decent in the SEC. But his performance has been the most abysmal performance in the history of the school. It has been nothing but negativity topped by escalating negativity. And we're going to roll with that for another year? I just don't see it.
 
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tvols75 said:
I was thinking about how our positional rankings match up with the rest of the SEC next year.

QB- top 2

WR- 1st assuming Hunter continue his speedy recovery. I don't see a team better with Arkansas losing their guys.

TE- probably top 4-5 of the SEC with everyone returning.

OL- this is an unknown of course. Pass protection,they are one of the top group. However, as Mr. Captain Obvious the run protection has a ton of work to do in the off-season. You would think we would have a top 4 SEC O-line with everyone coming back.

RB- I think Marlin Lane is going to be huge for us throughout his career. However, with him still being an unknown and lack of proven depth I would say somewhere around 7-8 in the SEC.


Overall offense: Assuming health, I don't see a more explosive offense in the SEC next year. I think Tyler Wilson is a good but not elite QB, and it will show a lot of his flaws without the big 3 WRs. Key of course is sustaining long, time consuming drives with a run game to actually be consistent winners in the SEC.



Defense

DEs- I'm going to make an assumption that Autry and Sentimore commit (big assumption I know). One would think Jac Smith, Corey Miller, Jordan Williams and Marlon Walls would improve a ton with another year under their belt. Those 6 right there put us in the top 5 of SEC in my opinion.

DTs- Malik is a huge loss. Couch has really came on as of late, and he will make a huge impact IMO with a full offseason under his belt. Many forget he wasn't an EE. The key to this group is how big of an impact will Jacobs make? How college ready is Danny O'Brien? How much improvement will we see in Carson, Hood, and Saulsberry. I think we have some potential to be in the top half of the SEC, but due to all the unknowns 7-9 range for this group.

LBs- This is the one that gets me excited. Maggitt, Johnson, and Lathers manning what looks to be a strong group. Maggitt and Johnson are playing solely based off of talent right now and doing a good job. However, a full offseason with Sirmon should greatly improve their awareness and instincts as LBs. I really like Sapp as a backup, and I love the LB corps we are bringing in (Peters, Santos, King, and Henderson). I see this as being in the top 4 of the SEC.

DBs- Shockingly, I'm extremely excited about this group. Assuming Brewer is back at full strength, we have a ton of athleticism at our safety spots with Randolph and Brewer. At DB, we have a shutdown-caliber corner in Waggner, and we have Justin Coleman, who the coaches absolutely think is going to be a shutdown corner. Gordon is the perfect nickel back for Wilcox's defense, and we have Moore that can play both safety and corner. Also, don't sleep on Lanier. He has improved a ton since stepping foot on campus. Also, I have heard from several that Orta could be a very big player for us during his career due to his physicality and speed. I'm excited about the freshmen we are bringing in especially McNeill and Crawley to go along with the speed of Gray. I would say this unit is right around 5-6 in the SEC.


Overall: D looks to have a lot of talent but also a lot of unknowns. I think we are hovering around the 5th or 6th best D in the SEC next year.

STs- Young is a stud as we all know. Our kick coverage is really good (yes I know we gave up a long run to Adams, but we have been solid last year and this year outside of that). Will Darr and Palardy being as good as advertised? I don't see them getting any worse. Also, I'm hoping the kid from east TN gives us a kicker that can consistently put it in the end zone. Special teams until otherwise proven is in the bottom half of the SEC next year.

Prediction: 9-3 Regular Season
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7-5 at best
 
#62
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LA Vol said:
Last season, 2012 was the gimme, with the stipulation that Dooley would have to step up performance and start beating some rivals and decent SEC teams. Not all, just some. How about just one? MSU would have done it or SCAR or UGA-- all totally botched opportunities.

Now we're just kicking the can to 2013? I could see giving CDD the benefit of the doubt, if he had beaten anybody-- ANYBODY-- decent in the SEC. But his performance has been the most abysmal performance in the history of the school. It has been nothing but negativity topped by escalating negativity. And we're going to roll with that for another year? I just don't see it.
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The problem is that we haven't played a decent team. We've played either bad teams, NC State, or great teams. We are a good team in a great league with a damn difficult schedule.
 
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crusse10 said:
The problem is that we haven't played a decent team. We've played either bad teams, NC State, or great teams. We are a good team in a great league with a damn difficult schedule.
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I hear what you're saying, but MSU isn't great. Bama exposed them, and TAMU will do the same. They'll end up midpack in the SECw. That game was within reach, as was UGA and SCAR. Not being able to pick up one clutch game, ever, year after year, is going to shorten a HC's tenure at a school like UT.

We play in the SEC, all the teams are good and we'll always have a difficult schedule. The right coach could have gotten us to 8-4 this year and that would have been enough for another year. But for three straight years, CDD hasn't been able to seize not one single opportunity to rise above and that's why people who once supported him have lost faith.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
MSU and SC aren't great teams. Good teams, but not great.
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The fact of the matter is that Carolina has been top 5 this season and State was just outside of the top 10. We aren't on that level. Alabama and Florida have shown to be elite, Carolina and Georgia could be at that level, and State is just below them. We are still below that level. However we're a significant step up from the last 2 years.
 
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