Swain not impressed with Wells hire.

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I think it makes sense Jake.
That's why I hope there is an undeniable improvement in OL. Need that for the grinding drives.
 
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Oh, Jake, I know there were many reasons our defense performed badly, it wasn't giving any one reason for that. Not blaming the guys at all and not blaming Shoop either.
Many factors and injuries and so on. Just saying if they hadn't, we still win at least those two games Imo
 
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chargervol said:
I think it makes sense Jake.
That's why I hope there is an undeniable improvement in OL. Need that for the grinding drives.
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good, because i know the typical response. and i don't think there's that much wrong with the offense.

but there's just not much you could look at and say "yeah, i can rely on this or that, on any given down"

i agree with stj, the only thing we depended on was Dobbs' legs, and that was more or less when things broke down.

our inside run game, no matter who's running the ball, was not very good.

it was good that Dobbs and the WR's did get better on the down field game. but, is that what should be your bread and butter, regardless of system? i think most of us would agree, no.
 
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chargervol said:
Oh, Jake, I know there were many reasons our defense performed badly, it wasn't giving any one reason for that. Not blaming the guys at all and not blaming Shoop either.
Many factors and injuries and so on. Just saying if they hadn't, we still win at least those two games Imo
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oh, we agree on that.
 
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jakez4ut said:
good, because i know the typical response. and i don't think there's that much wrong with the offense.

but there's just not much you could look at and say "yeah, i can rely on this or that, on any given down"

i agree with stj, the only thing we depended on was Dobbs' legs, and that was more or less when things broke down.

our inside run game, no matter who's running the ball, was not very good.

it was good that Dobbs and the WR's did get better on the down field game. but, is that what should be your bread and butter, regardless of system? i think most of us would agree, no.
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That kind of brings us back full circle. I agreed that we did have to rely on Dobbs legs too much.

My opinion was that a better performing ol, can make it where that's not the case. We'll see though.
 
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chargervol said:
That kind of brings us back full circle. I agreed that we did have to rely on Dobbs legs too much.

My opinion was that a better performing ol, can make it where that's not the case. We'll see though.
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thanks for going on that little trip with me then....:eek:lol:
 
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'Boro-vol said:
There are considerably more posters that view everything Butch does as sacrosanct, and touched by Providence, refusing to view anything he does with a critical eye based on the facts. It's the difference between unconditional support for the coach, and a desire to see the best for the program no matter who leads it.

There is nothing wrong with questioning this or any other hire being made, and fairly gauging the shortcomings we see.
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Valid points, except how can you gauge any shortcomings without any evidence to support your opinion?
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
If the articles are accurate, most of Wells' role last season, at least the 2nd half of the season, was to work specifically with Drew Richmond, and I thought DR looked much better by the end of the season than he did at the beginning when he lost his starter position. JMO, but I think Wells will do fine.
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It's pretty hard to argue with that. He was much better. He had a ton of problems in the Appt State game and would have been on the bench if not for Hall injury.

I agree, bot I pressed with hire, but I had no idea who the guy was until Debord resigned and he went on recruiting trail.
 
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drvenner said:
Valid points, except how can you gauge any shortcomings without any evidence to support your opinion?
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It was discussed higher up. I'm gauging, for myself, by the resume. It's all we've got to go by. Again, by all accounts he's a bang-up recruiter. I hope he his. His history as a line coach is limited. I hope he is equally as successful there.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
It was discussed higher up. I'm gauging, for myself, by the resume. It's all we've got to go by. Again, by all accounts he's a bang-up recruiter. I hope he his. His history as a line coach is limited. I hope he is equally as successful there.
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Pretty much lines up with everything Ive heard. He's a question to be answered as a OL coach (which is scary at this point) as a recruiter he's more of a proven commodity.
 
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njvols said:
Jones knows the seat is at least getting mildly warm. He knows it's JOL time, and this is all on him. Don't know much about Wells, but Jones has to see him as upgrade or he could have easily stayed status quo. Regardless of Swain or others, I have to think Jones is positive about this move because if it's not, it could be a CLEM...career limiting or ending move.
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Um, the strength and conditioning team says hello.
 
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Vol4ever said:
I guess we read different resume's then. Color me not impressed.

On the other hand Hoke was a good hire.
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What is your opinion of this resume?

1985 St. Xavier HS (OH) (DB)
1986–1987 Ohio State (GA)
1988 Illinois State (OLB)
1989 Illinois State (QB/WR)
1990–1995 Colorado State (WR)
1996–2000 Notre Dame (WR)
2001–2002 Bowling Green
 
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BaldBiker said:
What is your opinion of this resume?

1985 St. Xavier HS (OH) (DB)
1986–1987 Ohio State (GA)
1988 Illinois State (OLB)
1989 Illinois State (QB/WR)
1990–1995 Colorado State (WR)
1996–2000 Notre Dame (WR)
2001–2002 Bowling Green
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Now the rest of it...

2003–2004 Utah
2005–2010 Florida
2012–present Ohio State
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it sets a precedent, sure. but not everyone with this kind of resume is an Urban Meyer. you could throw Saban's resume up there too.

they're outliers, not norms.

but everyone has to start somewhere. not everyone ends up in the same place.
 
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jakez4ut said:
it sets a precedent, sure. but not everyone with this kind of resume is an Urban Meyer. you could throw Saban's resume up there too.

they're outliers, not norms.

but everyone has to start somewhere. not everyone ends up in the same place.
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Was going to reply, but you and I are basically having the same conversation in two different threads, so I'll stick to that thread. Good conversation though IMO.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
There are considerably more posters that view everything Butch does as sacrosanct, and touched by Providence, refusing to view anything he does with a critical eye based on the facts. It's the difference between unconditional support for the coach, and a desire to see the best for the program no matter who leads it.

There is nothing wrong with questioning this or any other hire being made, and fairly gauging the shortcomings we see.
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There are few posters that see everything Butch does as sacrosanct. That way over states the case. I believe there are more 'negative' posters regarding Butch than positive. Then again, there tend to be more negative people in life. Most of us try for a balanced perspective.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
I was once given some beer flavored ice cream.
Let's just say, two rights can make a wrong.
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As a kid I was given Jack & Coke flavored cardy. When I got older it became my drink of choice, well after the first one I move on to Jack & Cup and then Jack from Bottlle.[/QUOTE]

I love this post.
 
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chargervol said:
Makes sense.
But if our OL starts performing better with a different coach, maybe we won't need our QB to bail us out by running for his life. Maybe we can complete more passes and longer runs, gaining a few more yards on 1st and 2nd down? :dunno:
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Would be magical, wouldn't it?

This season should tell the tale. New coach and same ol performance would point directly to scheme and vice versa.
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Agreed. Will be interesting. Hopefully it really was just a bad position coach who couldn't adapt to a new level of competition.
 
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