Sutton focused on graduating

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From the context of the rest of his comments, ie, no I don't have a decision to make at the end of the 2015 season, it sounds to me like graduating December 2016.
 
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Chilmonty said:
Clearly you don't understand selfishness and you never attended U of Mizzou! :birgits_giggle:



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TRUE. They should have pulled those kids scholarships if they wanted to sit games out. I know UM would have lost a ton of money.
 
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roosterjbh said:
If he means this December finishing 3 semesters early is a crazy feat. Hard to believe almost
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If he was an Early Enrollee and also took summer class for three summers, then it could happen.

Mathmatically, it is possible for him to graduate a year early. That is based on him being an Early Enrollee. However; if he were not an EE, then he would graduate 3 semesters early.
 
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I don't think he's coming back and I don't blame him. He's going to have awesome measurables (40 and shuttle) and has no real history of injury. He's gone
 
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426hemivol said:
The quote is difficult to understand also, if he was graduating this year why wouldn't he say "next month"? It sounds like he's talking about December next year.
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most people will say next month or this december. When you say next December, that usually means the december after this one?
 
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YorkVol said:
Isn't the Pre-pharmacy program a 3 year program with the 4th year at UT Memphis? Could he be done December 2015?
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UT-K has a full pharmacy program now..you can probably do the whole thing in Knoxville..South College also has a pharmacy program..you can actually get into pharmacy school after 2 years..I did my pre-pharm at WSCC in two years..PharmDs are 6 year programs..2 in pre(minimum) take the PCAT, have at least 3.0, and interview well..then pharmacy school for 4(last one is for internships)

UT-K lists it as a three year program and says the 4th is in Memphis..

The college offers three program options for preparing students for the study of pharmacy at UT Health Science Center, Memphis. The Doctor of Pharmacy (PharmD) degree is conferred by the College of Pharmacy upon completion of four years of professional study at Memphis after completing any of the three programs options. Bulletins describing the pre-pharmacy program options in detail may be obtained from Arts and Sciences Advising Services.

The three-year program leading to a Bachelor of Science degree with a major in pre-professional programs from the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, is based upon the program outlined below. In the three-year program, the student must complete at least 90 prescribed credit hours while enrolled in the College of Arts and Sciences, and the Bachelor of Science degree is granted upon satisfactory completion of the first year of study in Memphis. The requirement for a major is waived for those taking their fourth year at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center, Memphis. Students must complete the last 30 hours of credit in residence at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, before enrolling in the College of Pharmacy. Admission to the College of Pharmacy is at the discretion of that college; admission to and successful completion of the program below does not assure admission to the College of Pharmacy.
 
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utvolpj said:
Why anyone would want him to be less successful is really confusing. Shouldn't we want players good enough to jump to the NFL? He can get a degree anytime
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He is majoring in pharmacy. And it isn't crazy that he wants to finish that up. Instead of going away for several years 5-10, and then have to come back and try and get back into the swing of studying. He is good enough to go to the NFL but smart enough to stay a Vol and get his degree. How often do we hear about players saying they wish they got their degree before going to the NFL? Put your ego aside, him putting off the NFL for another year doesn't make him any less successful, if anything I bet NFL teams are going to respect that he got a degree, and a pretty serious one at that.
 
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LouderVol said:
How often do we hear about players saying they wish they got their degree before going to the NFL?
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Never heard it from a successful nfl player.

LouderVol said:
Put your ego aside, him putting off the NFL for another year doesn't make him any less successful, if anything I bet NFL teams are going to respect that he got a degree, and a pretty serious one at that.
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Has zero to do with my ego. Players have a very small window to capitalize on the NFL money. Delaying that to get something that will be around long after your playing days are over is kinda ridiculous. The point of a degree is to help you get a better paying job.

The NFL also doesn't care if you got one or not. They use film in place of a transcript
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Lot of folks going to interpret this wrong, I think. That's on the reporter.

People gonna read this as confirming Cam will stay for his final year, that "next December" means a year and a month from now.

But it probably actually means next month.

It's shoddy writing that the reporter didn't clarify which December Cam meant...but based on context, I'm betting he meant that he'll graduate at the end of this semester. Which means this article really does not answer the question at all of whether he'll stay for his last season of eligibility.
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He was quoted as saying "next December", so unless this article was written last year, most would think "next December" would mean 2016....
 
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It sounds to me like December '16, but maybe not.

Either way, its inspiring to see a young student-athlete with their priorities in order. It sounds like he knows whats important and what he needs to do to ensure his future after football is over.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
It's one of the imprecisions of the English language. ....

Context of the article indicates that it probably means December 2015.

Any good journalist understands the lack of precision in the English language and goes out of his way to clarify for his readers. It's a pity this one didn't do that.
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Well, this is the first concept I've heard of his not returning in 2016, for the sake of a pending graduation in Dec of 2015.

Nonetheless, consider (this far along into November) which December I mean, in this statement: "next December, with or without the great Cam Sutton, I expect the VOLS to be playing in Atlanta."
 
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LouderVol said:
He is majoring in pharmacy. And it isn't crazy that he wants to finish that up. Instead of going away for several years 5-10, and then have to come back and try and get back into the swing of studying. He is good enough to go to the NFL but smart enough to stay a Vol and get his degree. How often do we hear about players saying they wish they got their degree before going to the NFL? Put your ego aside, him putting off the NFL for another year doesn't make him any less successful, if anything I bet NFL teams are going to respect that he got a degree, and a pretty serious one at that.
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He won't be a pharmacist if he finishes up his pre-pharm degree..he would still have to go to school for 4 years to get his PharmD...that would be tough to do if he plays in the NFL for several years.
 
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utvolpj said:
Never heard it from a successful nfl player.



Has zero to do with my ego. Players have a very small window to capitalize on the NFL money. Delaying that to get something that will be around long after your playing days are over is kinda ridiculous. The point of a degree is to help you get a better paying job.

The NFL also doesn't care if you got one or not. They use film in place of a transcript
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a lot of your "successful" NFL players might as well speak English as a second language. Sutton does not fit the mold of the idiots who depend on football for money.

this year has been off for him. another year helps him correct that, hopefully. and pharma money aint no joke either.

all of this still doesn't explain how he will be less successful for staying a year longer. Having the degree won't help his draft status, but I bet it helps on the contract side of it. In a day and age where there is so much scrutiny on NFL players "misbehavior" the decisions these kids make are going to way more and more on the formula.

we can play the what if game all day. but with his lack of injuries and his "off" year I can't see how another year doesn't help him be more "successful" in the NFL. It still seems like you are projecting on Sutton's situation. No need to bash his decision. (i believe he said he is sticking around)
 
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Reading comprehension is at a premium around here. Stop over complicating sh:t, look at what was said, and be proud that Sutton indicated he will be a VOL for another year.

It could be a million-dollar decision, but SUTTON INDICATED earlier THIS WEEK he DOESN'T expect he'll even have a decision to make AFTER THIS SEASON.

"I don't think so," he told the Times Free Press. "I think my biggest thing is graduating from here. I'm so close to graduating. I'll be done next December. My biggest thing is finishing up school.
 
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roosterjbh said:
If he means this December finishing 3 semesters early is a crazy feat. Hard to believe almost
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He came in the summer semester prior to his freshman year so he has had 3 extra semesters of college already. What's really amazing is that he must have carried a regular class load every semester. Most guys just can't do that and play ball.
 
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utvolpj said:
Never heard it from a successful nfl player.
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May be because of how little we pay attention to NFL players after they retire.

Average career in the NFL: 7 years. Average age at retirement: 30.

Average age when their savings from those big paychecks run out: 37.

None of this may apply to Cam. He might have a 25-year career, live well within his means, invest wisely, and leave the NFL set for life.

On the other hand, maybe he'll WANT to open up a pharmacy or similar business with family/friends, as he mentions in the article.

In that case, having his undergrad degree before he goes to the NFL might be very important to him. Seems from the article like maybe it is.
 
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VolnJC said:
He won't be a pharmacist if he finishes up his pre-pharm degree..he would still have to go to school for 4 years to get his PharmD...that would be tough to do if he plays in the NFL for several years.
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Why? Several (or more) doctors and lawyers out there with storied NFL careers. Steve Young for one has a law license. Billy Cannon aced dental school back when that was a tougher road to hoe. As driven as he seems, it should be no problem.
 
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With the current state of our media, there's no telling what Cam even said. So I guess in a short amount of time we will all know. I wouldn't blame him if he goes.
 
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