Support butch jones

I'm tired of hearing idiots say ''but but chip kelly or stoops wouldn't come here'' and comparing what this program is now to what it was 5 years ago

Why wouldn't a proven coach want to take over a program like tenessee with all of the talent on this roster + multiple top 10 recruiting classes coming in?? You at least make them say no..

Some of you dudes just don't get it

The longer you wait, the more hurtful it will be to the program long term...


A hire like chip kelly will turn this team into a 10-11+ win playoff contending team next season.


Or should we just stick with botch until the team starts going 7-5 every year, recruits figure out he's a moron that cant coach or develop talent and more players start transferring/decommiting?

Funny...I backed my statement up with proof and facts and all you can do is rant and state your opinion. Where is your proof? Are you not going to backup your statements?

Oh and for the record BOB STOOPS ISN'T COMING HERE!!!!

He retired early for a reason. His dad died young while coaching and was never able to enjoy retirement.

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/co...tics-oklahomas-hiring-lincoln-riley-automatic
 
Didn't say he didn't.

Now that I think about it, that Florida game still baffles me. Only reason I don't remember it that well was because I was working midnight to noon shift in Philly that week for the Papal visit. Was barely able to keep my eyes open for the game.
 
Now that I think about it, that Florida game still baffles me. Only reason I don't remember it that well was because I was working midnight to noon shift in Philly that week for the Papal visit. Was barely able to keep my eyes open for the game.

Cool..
 
You support Butch Jones. I support UT football, and right now Butch Jones is damaging the brand with incompetent coaching decisions. Eventually, that illness will infect the staff, and then the team. We saw it last year. It's a matter of opinion as to whether or not the warning signs were there from the beginning.

His record is what it is. Do your research. He has not, and likely will not lead this program back to Atlanta, much less past it. The mind-numbing part of all this is that Butch seems to be oblivious to the fact that he needs to make changes...not with his staff...but with his ego and his mindset, in order to get the most out of all that talent he has recruited.

The sad thing for me is that I really liked the hire. He looked like a tough football coach. He sounded like a tough football coach. He seemed genuinely excited to get the job. He talked about rebuilding, and restoring the program. He embraced the Maxims. He said all the right things. I remember thinking, hoping, that here was the hard-nosed, no nonsense, beat their ass at the line of scrimmage type coach that UT really needed. Rocky Top tough. It hurts to see him struggle to even say the right thing in a press conference now, much less make the right call in a game.

In the end...10 years from now...I think we will look back at the Butch Jones era and wonder what might have been if he had simply checked his ego and made the adjustments needed to win in the SEC.

For me, the honeymoon is over. Butch ain't it. Can he prove me wrong? Yes. Will he? His record to this point says "no". So for me, what must be done eventually should be done immediately. He gets the rest of the season to prove the doubters wrong. I'll concede the Bama game. I'll throw in LSU or UGA just to make it fair. Heck, I'll give him both. But at loss #5, which right now looks like a very real possibility, I think it's time to thank him for restocking the cupboard, and move on.

I'm not Donald Trump, and I approve this message.

Go Vols.

I will give him bama and throw in 1 more game maybe. Depending on if it is lost by a bonedhead decision or not. I don't think he can lose 3 more and survive after what went down last week. I do agree he gets the season, I don't see them doing anything in the middle of the year and don't think that is how we need to make our next hire anyway. It needs to be a calculated hire, not a knee jerk quick replacement. I am fully behind the staff and team but without a huge turn around I am also ready to find a another coach at the end of the year. But until then I will cheer and hope for the best. GBO!!!!
 
i like Butch and this staff. Until someone presents a credible realistic alternative - all the saber rattling is borderline juvenile. Look at mighty LSU - had all year to find a replacement for Les miles and retained Orgeron. Would you trade Butch for Ed? Jimmy Sexton supplied Dooley to the Vols and who knows what desperation hire might fall out of the tree this time. it could set the program back 4-5 years. As long as Butch is recruiting well - give him support. Next season some tremendous players Kirkland, Jennings, Chance Hall and others return from rehab so that in itself is a great talent infusion along with playing Gators and Bama in Knoxville. I expected rebuilding season this year and let's see what happens.
 
I'll support contributing to a GoFundMe for his buyout without question. Why wait to do later what you know is going to be the eventual result? Without winning the east this year coupled with yet another bungling of a game that should have been won, he's pretty much toast. Five years at a traditional power of winning nothing is enough.
 
Dabo and Urban would like to talk to you about that

Based on our history since 2008, he is not wrong. What if Currie were to hire another Butch Jones like coach? You know, a mid level conference coach with a little success? Do you really have that much faith in Currie to make the right decision? Personally, I dont.
 
I'll support contributing to a GoFundMe for his buyout without question. Why wait to do later what you know is going to be the eventual result? Without winning the east this year coupled with yet another bungling of a game that should have been won, he's pretty much toast. Five years at a traditional power of winning nothing is enough.

Because firing him now or in the middle of the season is knee jerk reactions. UT doesnt need that. Thats what brought us to where we are now.
 
i like Butch and this staff. Until someone presents a credible realistic alternative - all the saber rattling is borderline juvenile. Look at mighty LSU - had all year to find a replacement for Les miles and retained Orgeron. Would you trade Butch for Ed? Jimmy Sexton supplied Dooley to the Vols and who knows what desperation hire might fall out of the tree this time. it could set the program back 4-5 years. As long as Butch is recruiting well - give him support. Next season some tremendous players Kirkland, Jennings, Chance Hall and others return from rehab so that in itself is a great talent infusion along with playing Gators and Bama in Knoxville. I expected rebuilding season this year and let's see what happens.

Based on our everlasting bad luck, half of our starters will be out by the time the season starts anyway.:hi:
 
Think about it. With a STRONG 2018 recruiting class signed up, and with wins over those awful dawgs and the chickens, by all cogent reasoning, talking about firing him this early displays a program that potential replacements may wish to avoid. Although it's mentioned alongside all the "yeah, buts," Butch has lifted this program out of the dung heap and, at the very least, he's placed UT football back into the public's attention. Like it or not, Butch isn't going to be fired during this season...period. He'll be kept on as HC this year and, subsequently, through team 122's promising looking run, unless, of course the wheels completely fall off this season. All this "Fahr Butch" talk by all you self-appointed experts...at this juncture...succeeds only at discouraging recruits and uglifying our UT football program in the eyes of those who're looking in our direction. Yeah. Lose to UGA and SCjr (because the Vols WILL lose to bama), then maybe some mumbling and rumbling will be in order. Hey. If that happens, then I'll join in with you. I promise. 'Til then, Volnationals, let's look like VFLs.:hi:

Is the strength of the recruiting classes really relevant at this point? Even casual fan or self appointed experts as you put it can tell that player development is seriously lacking.
 
No way we beat ga and lsu...if your last resort for butch to still be employed as the head coach for the vols depends on winning those two games he might as well look in the classified section now...it isnt going to happen. No way no how..we need to be more worried about trying to keep it close with kentucky and vanderbilt and not get embarrased in those two games.
 
You have lost your mind if you think we will ever beat nick saban at any stadium with the average coaches we have now. Especially Butch Jones. He is just not sec material. Great guy, fairly well at recruiting but for sure not the coach to get the vols where they need to be. And never will be..5 years is long enough. Got to go. Cant go fast enough.
 
Go ahead and look for the wheels to fall of then. Its going to happen. Its a hard fact that i guess some vols fans are in denial about. Lets get back to reality. Butch Jones is one foot out the door as we speak.
 
Is the strength of the recruiting classes really relevant at this point? Even casual fan or self appointed experts as you put it can tell that player development is seriously lacking.

setting my disdain aside for a second...

if we do wind up 8-4 this year, with the class he's got coming in, being in only year 1 of this staff and s&c program.......

a case can certainly be made to see how next year turns out. a case that can probably be easily accepted by those that would make the decision anyway.

i don't expect that to sit well with many...i wouldn't really disagree...but thinking it thru....it's far from a foregone conclusion that CBJ and co. are actually done.
 
People may not like this post, but firing Butch Jones will set us back another 5+ years.

Support Butch he didn't lose the game, poor execution lost us that game. Should we have given Kelly the ball on the 1, yes, but we also should have not had penalties in the red zone. We shouldn't have shanked a punt to give them field possession. We shouldn't have let a WR run past us.

The program is in the best shape it has been in since 2006. Stay the course and support Butch.

This won't be very popular either but I can speak from experience. I've been fortunate to coach kids in high school that have gone on to play at Tennessee, Alabama, Vandy, Pitt, Marshall, all the OVC schools and many more smaller Div II / III schools. And they all keep up with social media and the message boards. By what they've told me, being overly negative about the coaches does have an influence on their decision.
 
setting my disdain aside for a second...

if we do wind up 8-4 this year, with the class he's got coming in, being in only year 1 of this staff and s&c program.......

a case can certainly be made to see how next year turns out. a case that can probably be easily accepted by those that would make the decision anyway.

i don't expect that to sit well with many...i wouldn't really disagree...but thinking it thru....it's far from a foregone conclusion that CBJ and co. are actually done.

In game coaching will still cost you a couple of games. Sometimes the talent can overcome it, but it cant be counted on consistently.
 
Good. I hope Butch is around for years. I hope all the complainers start supporting some other team as they sure as heck trying to destroy this one.
 
I would rather go 1-11 with the lone win against UF than have a national championship. I know that is not the best for our program though. If we can improve our record this year from the outcome of last year I GUESS I can deal with another year of losing to that trash. I have always liked CBJ from day one and I haven't lost faith yet. However, I am extremely disappointed of the game I watched Saturday. We honestly should have beaten them by 2 or more touchdowns. I hope VolNation will rally behind our team and coaching staff so the negative people will eat crow.
 
In game coaching will still cost you a couple of games. Sometimes the talent can overcome it, but it cant be counted on consistently.

agree. we've seen it live and in person.

just in the light of "it's not happened yet for the 9 remaining games"....

there are no forgone conclusions for this season.

as not surprised as i would be to see us go 8-4 from this point, i wouldn't be surprised at 6-6 either.

and i've said that since last season ended. i thought the ceiling was 8-4, and in large part that depended on beating GT. and they did that by winning a game that was completely losable.

and now i've seen us lose a totally winnable game, that i thought we'd lose to begin with.

so..........who knows what will happen the rest of the way.:crazy:
 
There is a difference of complaining and stating facts..i havent read one thing on the negatives torwards Butch Jones on here that wasnt true..if your a true vols fan yes you cheer fir them no matter what...but it still doesnt change the fact we have an average coach who has proven he does not have what it takes to coach in the sec...or at least at tennessee..you can blame players for some of the things yes, but when its all said and done a loss is on the head coach along with the wins. They hired him to win and especially against our rivals and whom are in the east..7-5 or 8-4 is unexceptable!!! Especially when you cant win the east. At this point we should be a 9 win team with hopes of 10. Consistently..year in and year out...Does anyone on our coaching staff even want to win the east or better yet what every team plays for every year..to win a national championship...not going to do either one under the current staff...thats just reality..straight facts!!!
 

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