Summing it all up...

#51
#51
UT lost because UK is better, way better! The refs had little to do with it. Every team gets some calls at home, but that really wasn't the problem. UK's style of play and their athletes will draw a lot more foul calls. When someone is better than you, you tend to grab and hold in order to keep from getting beat on the drive. That is pretty much what happened to UT tonight.
 
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#52
RockyTopNation said:
Calipari has the refs eating out of his hands. If one of our players starts playing well he asks the refs to call a foul on him(Maymon)
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I noticed that too. If Tennessee would have gotten to shoot 27 free throws and Kentucky got to shoot 7 do you think Tennessee would have won?

Kentucky is a joke. They have two guys that are worth a ****. The rest of them I could take or leave them.

I think the Blue Bloods are going to be disappointed once again. SEC title, SEC tournament title, but no NCAA title.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Nothing I said in my OP is inaccurate or false, nor flaming. If everyone wants to focus on fouls instead of the fact that UT shot 28% from the field, and allowed UK to shoot 50%, then I'll give the floor to everyone and let the thread get all irrational. Just trying to discuss a basketball game.
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Seriously, bro.. Here's the thing. It honestly doesn't matter what you have to say. Some people just don't want to see a game recap 30 minutes after it's over from a UK fan.

Even if you try to be civil about it, it can still be perceived as a little condescending. Not saying that was your intent..

We have our own VN bloggers and others who provide game recaps and do a swell job of it.

If you want a standing O for your posting, please go to your own board and talk about how great your basketball team is and how the referees did a fanastic job.
 
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BaseballFan said:
UT lost because UK is better, way better! The refs had little to do with it. Every team gets some calls at home, but that really wasn't the problem. UK's style of play and their athletes will draw a lot more foul calls. When someone is better than you, you tend to grab and hold in order to keep from getting beat on the drive. That is pretty much what happened to UT tonight.
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Pretty sure we got hammered underneath a lot with no calls. I can understand some calls. That's like, what, a few?
 
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#56
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Nothing I said in my OP is inaccurate or false, nor flaming. If everyone wants to focus on fouls instead of the fact that UT shot 28% from the field, and allowed UK to shoot 50%, then I'll give the floor to everyone and let the thread get all irrational. Just trying to discuss a basketball game.
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I said uk was the better team but the refs dont have to pile on. Maymons fourth foul was a joke. Just when he was starting to score.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
* Just too much talent disparity at too many positions. McBee guarding Miller or Gilchrist on and off, as an example.

* Defensive intensity from UK was just stifling. Stokes and Maymon are the real deal and a great tandem, Davis is just ridiculously good down low. At one point UT was 14-50 from the field. (Yes, there were missed calls, but not enough to change the tide or momentum this game had.)

* Golden did not play horrible, but the flaw did show that UT does not have a true PG to get them into the offense, it just looked stagnant for much of the night (which is defense as well)

* Woolridge, wow. Didn't see that one come, obviously scouting report did not either.

Keep ya heads up, you got the right captain steering the ship.
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Agree with it all...We were simply out classed! They have a helluva a team but I do believe we are going to be a really tough out come SEC tournament time. GO VOLS and lets get some elite talent on the hill!!
 
#59
#59
I would say the refs had a lot to do with the win, but even without them, UK wins by 10-20.

The reason why they had a lot to do with UK's win is that Golden and Maymon, our two best players, were out of the game in the first half on calls that were pretty lame. Stokes also got two fouls fairly quickly, so our three best players were out of the game. If the refs had continued to call the game like that (first 5-10 min of the game), UK would have won by 30.

However, UK would have won regardless of the talent difference because of the talent difference, our horrible shot selection, and the extra possessions they would score on instead of the free throws (and because Woolridge likely wouldn't have played as much). I still hate the way it went down, though. Oh well, on to the next one.
 
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#62
#62
Hardwood making some friends, eh?

You forgot to mention how Woolridge put the team on his back to keep it from getting out of hand. Most teams dont shoot well from 3 in rupp, that was a solid performance from Wooly. 38-10 would have been the halftime score if he didnt stick those 3's. Reminded me of Lofton all over again.
 
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Judge_Smails said:
Hardwood making some friends, eh?

You forgot to mention how Woolridge put the team on his back to keep it from getting out of hand. Most teams dont shoot well from 3 in rupp, that was a solid performance from Wooly. 38-10 would have been the halftime score if he didnt stick those 3's. Reminded me of Lofton all over again.
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It's funny you said that because as a UK fan I though about Lofton too - especially his 4th and 5th 3FG...they were in the air and I was like...ok well surely he'll miss these...and no. Don't know much about him (other than the rapping) does he usually take a strong role in scoring?
 
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dukes_of_maggard said:
It's funny you said that because as a UK fan I though about Lofton too - especially his 4th and 5th 3FG...they were in the air and I was like...ok well surely he'll miss these...and no. Don't know much about him (other than the rapping) does he usually take a strong role in scoring?
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Once every 7-10 games he'll have some sort of outburst. Then he'll go a few games of maybe 5 mins at top of playing time, then no points, then a good game.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
* Just too much talent disparity at too many positions. McBee guarding Miller or Gilchrist on and off, as an example.

* Defensive intensity from UK was just stifling. Stokes and Maymon are the real deal and a great tandem, Davis is just ridiculously good down low. At one point UT was 14-50 from the field. (Yes, there were missed calls, but not enough to change the tide or momentum this game had.)

* Golden did not play horrible, but the flaw did show that UT does not have a true PG to get them into the offense, it just looked stagnant for much of the night (which is defense as well)

* Woolridge, wow. Didn't see that one come, obviously scouting report did not either.

Keep ya heads up, you got the right captain steering the ship.
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UK is just really damn good
 
#73
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Nothing I said in my OP is inaccurate or false, nor flaming. If everyone wants to focus on fouls instead of the fact that UT shot 28% from the field, and allowed UK to shoot 50%, then I'll give the floor to everyone and let the thread get all irrational. Just trying to discuss a basketball game.
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You're not arguing that the complete lack of calls against UK in the paint are completely irrelevant to the shooting %, are you? If so, that's absurd. The disparity in the lane on the two ends couldn't have been more ridiculous. Said disparity is the exact single one that does the most damage to a team like ours.

Hinting that the way that was officiated didn't change the game is crazy. The blocked shot silliness wouldn't have happened and we wouldn't have moved away from the paint or lost our aggressiveness. Allowing all arms to use his hand down low and body people constantly is crap. Kid is talented and long, but officials made him great. I was embarrassed for them.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
You're not arguing that the complete lack of calls against UK in the paint are completely irrelevant to the shooting %, are you? If so, that's absurd. The disparity in the lane on the two ends couldn't have been more ridiculous. Said disparity is the exact single one that does the most damage to a team like ours.

Hinting that the way that was officiated didn't change the game is crazy. The blocked shot silliness wouldn't have happened and we wouldn't have moved away from the paint or lost our aggressiveness. Allowing all arms to use his hand down low and body people constantly is crap. Kid is talented and long, but officials made him great. I was embarrassed for them.
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And I 100% believe this goes back to cals comments to the refs prior to the game. They would have got some calls either way, but the disparity of how the game was called in the post for each team I accredit to cal.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
You're not arguing that the complete lack of calls against UK in the paint are completely irrelevant to the shooting %, are you? If so, that's absurd. The disparity in the lane on the two ends couldn't have been more ridiculous. Said disparity is the exact single one that does the most damage to a team like ours.

Hinting that the way that was officiated didn't change the game is crazy. The blocked shot silliness wouldn't have happened and we wouldn't have moved away from the paint or lost our aggressiveness. Allowing all arms to use his hand down low and body people constantly is crap. Kid is talented and long, but officials made him great. I was embarrassed for them.
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I'm saying that calls were missed. I'm conceding that yes, it changed momentum. But... I will not concede that it was a definitive reason for UT losing this game. UT had 8 more fouls called than UK. If that number were even, UT still gets run by 10-15 points IMO. There was still a ballgame played outside of the "blown calls", and UK dominated every aspect of it, other than Woolridge having the game of his life.

And Cal parlayed Davis getting beat to death at LSU into a subliminal message to the officials during this game. It is what it is, TIFWIW.
 
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