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#28
#28
Ah.

Well, my family has owned GM trucks before, and I work on them all day in school.

A word of advice: For the love of God, do not miss any scheduled maintenance.

Other than that, enjoy your new whip.
 
#29
#29
milohimself said:
Ah.

Well, my family has owned GM trucks before, and I work on them all day in school.

A word of advice: For the love of God, do not miss any scheduled maintenance.

Other than that, enjoy your new whip.
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Thanks Milo. That is one of the reasons I chose an earlier model. I simply did not want to spend more than I had too on a chevy. I know that might be sacrilege, but I prefer imports. The only problem was the Sequoia did not have the necessary room for my family. If I can get four years and 50,000 miles out of this vehicle I will be pleased. Scheduled maintenance will be followed.
 
#30
#30
I'm right there with you. Flat-out, Japan makes a far better automobile than America does. But nobody makes a big-ass truck like the good ol' USA. You're not going to find a Japanese-designed car as big as a Suburban (except maybe a Nissan Armada; that thing is a tank). Really though, if you get that scheduled maintenance in, there's no reason the car can't get to the 125,000 mile neighborhood. Maybe even 150,000. GM engines and suspension just kinda crap out at that point.
 
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#34
Seriously though. I've had vehicles made in Asia, America, and now Europe. As far as QUALITY in engineering and materials, it all goes to Europe.

In second place for engineering and last for materials is Asia, and you can guess where that puts American cars.
 
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rwemyss said:
Seriously though. I've had vehicles made in Asia, America, and now Europe. As far as QUALITY in engineering and materials, it all goes to Europe.

In second place for engineering and last for materials is Asia, and you can guess where that puts American cars.
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That's kinda loaded... Because you're talking European cars actually built in Europe. I'm talking Japanese cars actually built in Japan. Don't put Korean cars in the mix with Japan, that's just not fair.

IMO the lists look like this:

Engineering:
1. Japan
2. Europe
3. USA

Materials:
1. Europe
2. Japan
3. USA

Go talk to a VW owner. Every single VW owner I know with more than 125k on their car drives everywhere with a tool box in tow.
 
#37
#37
No way I give #2 in materials to Japan. While the engineering generally keeps the cars on the road longer than the American counterparts, the materials used in Japanese cars are still sub-par.

I may budge on the engineering issue, as my Corolla's engine was an absolute dream to work on... but no way on the materials.
 
#38
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rwemyss said:
No way I give #2 in materials to Japan. While the engineering generally keeps the cars on the road longer than the American counterparts, the materials used in Japanese cars are still sub-par.

I may budge on the engineering issue, as my Corolla's engine was an absolute dream to work on... but no way on the materials.
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Exactly. Look at a wiring diagram or engine repair list for an Audi or a BMW and keep a bottle of asprin on you.

And I mentioned Japan-built cars for a reason. I agree with you, Japanese cars built in North America or China are built with horrible material. But Japanese cars built over there are top-notch all-around. Of course, not like it makes too much difference, most of the "Japanese" cars here are built in the US or Canada. Very few are actually imported overseas. Here's a comprehensive list of current cars available here that are actually produced in Japan:

Honda - S2000, Fit
Acura - RSX, TSX, RL
Nissan - 350Z
Infiniti - G37, M, FX
Toyota - Prius, FJ Cruiser, 4Runner, Land Cruiser
Lexus - All models
Mazda - Mazda3, Mazda5, MX-5, RX-8, CX-7, CX-9
Subaru - Impreza
 
#39
#39
:hi:

Also, speaking of Europeans and wiring diagrams... my car has at least 5 computers in it. Two to control the suspension, engine management, transmission, and a trip computer. Who knows what else is electronically controlled. I know the steering is.
 
#40
#40
my wife had VW..3 year lease....and i have never been so happy to get rid of a car....fans, a/c, fuel filter, transmission etc, etc, etc.... we've had the Tahoe for 2 years, and it's 4 years old, and we've only had to change tires and the oil.:thumbsup:
 
#42
#42
GVF said:
Do the new '08 Buick Enclave. Great look. Full size SUV with great styling. Better mileage than the Tahoe lines. Front buckets, captain seats and a center pass thru to the rear seat. I'm eyeballing one of htese myself.
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The Enclave, GMC Acadia, and Saturn Outlook are all great options. Just as roomy as a Tahoe, but with much better fuel economy and they are not built on a truck frame.....which means they don't ride like a truck like the tahoes of the world. Unless you actually need the offroad capabilities the Tahoe offers (which most of us don't) these three vehicles are great options.
 
#43
#43
rwemyss said:
:hi:

Also, speaking of Europeans and wiring diagrams... my car has at least 5 computers in it. Two to control the suspension, engine management, transmission, and a trip computer. Who knows what else is electronically controlled. I know the steering is.
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Your car has probably something closer to the 10-15 neighborhood in number of computers.

jakez4ut said:
my wife had VW..3 year lease....and i have never been so happy to get rid of a car....fans, a/c, fuel filter, transmission etc, etc, etc.... we've had the Tahoe for 2 years, and it's 4 years old, and we've only had to change tires and the oil.:thumbsup:
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Yes, VDubs are a bad example of the quality of Euro cars, but they do have a lot of problems. That's exactly what I was talking about. Car guys who own VDubs are the best home mechanics out there, though, guaranteed. You will be too if you ever get your Volvo to 150k.

American cars are fine until about 100-125k. If you hit that, and the vehicle hasn't had its scheduled maintenance, watch out.

VolunteerHillbilly said:
Milo,

Do you have any opinions regarding the Thunderbirds made from '02-'05?
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Other than they're ugly? No. Because of the facts that they're too new, and that mainly old people buy them, nobody really knows what they're made of yet. Ford builds stuff really weird, though. Working on some of their cars, especially Ford trucks from the 90's, is an absolute nightmare.

holdemvol said:
The Enclave, GMC Acadia, and Saturn Outlook are all great options. Just as roomy as a Tahoe, but with much better fuel economy and they are not built on a truck frame.....which means they don't ride like a truck like the tahoes of the world. Unless you actually need the offroad capabilities the Tahoe offers (which most of us don't) these three vehicles are great options.
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Werd. Unibody > BOF
 
#44
#44
Lexvol said:
With the twins on the way and an 18 month old in a car seat the only SUV that will accomodate seems to be a Suburban or the Yukon XL. Anyone out there driving one right now? What do you like/dislike?
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Dear Lex,

I speak from experience on this. You are about to have 3 kids. You are not cool. Suck it up and buy a Honda Odyssey and a nice pair of shades to hide your eyes.

Sincerely,
GAVol
 
#45
#45
GAVol said:
Dear Lex,

I speak from experience on this. You are about to have 3 kids. You are not cool. Suck it up and buy a Honda Odyssey and a nice pair of shades to hide your eyes.

Sincerely,
GAVol
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:eek:lol:

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#46
#46
The sad thing is that I'm being completely honest. I don't care jack about performance. I want 11 cupholders, a DVD player and automatic sliding doors at the touch of a keychain.
 
#47
#47
GAVol said:
The sad thing is that I'm being completely honest. I don't care jack about performance. I want 11 cupholders, a DVD player and automatic sliding doors at the touch of a keychain.
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Kinda funny... My dreamcar has one cupholder.

I think that's how you know how old you really are. By how many cupholders you want in your car.

If I ever get past 5, kill me.
 
#48
#48
GAVol said:
Dear Lex,

I speak from experience on this. You are about to have 3 kids. You are not cool. Suck it up and buy a Honda Odyssey and a nice pair of shades to hide your eyes.

Sincerely,
GAVol
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:eek:lol: :eek:lol: :eek:lol:

Unfortunately, I gave up on the concept of cool years ago. I always felt cool because I was a two sport letterman in highschool and always kept the bullpen full in case my starter wore her arm out. At the same time most of my friends have always been taller and better looking than I am. Sometimes I wonder if I was half as cool as I thought I was.

This is purely a utilitarian venture. Once the kids are a little older and we don't have a pack and play, a double stroller, a single stroller, three huge britax carseats, and our luggage to haul, then the minivan will be a more reasonable option. :thumbsup:
 
#49
#49
GAVol said:
Dear Lex,

I speak from experience on this. You are about to have 3 kids. You are not cool. Suck it up and buy a Honda Odyssey and a nice pair of shades to hide your eyes.

Sincerely,
GAVol
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:eek:lol:
Lexvol said:
:eek:lol: :eek:lol: :eek:lol:

Unfortunately, I gave up on the concept of cool years ago. I always felt cool because I was a two sport letterman in highschool and always kept the bullpen full in case my starter wore her arm out. At the same time most of my friends have always been taller and better looking than I am. Sometimes I wonder if I was half as cool as I thought I was.

This is purely a utilitarian venture. Once the kids are a little older and we don't have a pack and play, a double stroller, a single stroller, three huge britax carseats, and our luggage to haul, then the minivan will be a more reasonable option. :thumbsup:
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keep fighting the good fight, otherwise i'm going to feel all alone.
 
#50
#50
GAVol said:
Dear Lex,

I speak from experience on this. You are about to have 3 kids. You are not cool. Suck it up and buy a Honda Odyssey and a nice pair of shades to hide your eyes.

Sincerely,
GAVol
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It was written to Lex, but it was like you were talking to me.
 
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