strike one cDD

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bleedorange0037 said:
Hardesty is likely going to see significant playing time in the NFL this year, so no real shame for BB being behind him on the depth chart. BB didn't have great numbers last year because he saw less carries since he was second string, and was hurt at the end of the year. He wasn't good enough to be the best back on the team, but that doesn't mean he wasn't still a quality player.
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BB does not have polished running back skills. That IS the issue. He has more raw talent than Hardesty.

I won't waste my time demonstrating that BB's stats were inflated by getting ALOT of carries vs weaker competition. You guys will simply ignore the plain truth again.

I like him. I feel for him. He's talented. I wish he were staying.... but he is NOT a proven or highly skilled RB.
 
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#203
What a wast of time reading this thread.

However, I agree with everything said by JustinGroves and LWS
 
#204
#204
ddubb76 said:
ok, i am going to say it. I blame dd for bb. It was his responsibility to keep talent in knoxville. While i can understand that he didnt feel the need to recruit a player currently on the team, he should have. It is his job to get and keep talent there. You can say whatever, but when you have a talented player that wants a little coddling, you coddle, get him in spring practice, and then coach him. He should have handled that sooner. Also, i do not doubt that bb just got tired of waiting for dd, you think saban or meyer would let a 5 star talent sit for three days without at least trying to talk to them. Once bb expressed his concern after the coaching change he became a 5 star recruit with tn ties that our coach refused to try and recruit,

strike one dd, i will root for him and back the team, but this is his failure.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it's 100% stupidity.
 
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ddubb76 said:
ok, i am going to say it. I blame dd for bb. It was his responsibility to keep talent in knoxville. While i can understand that he didnt feel the need to recruit a player currently on the team, he should have. It is his job to get and keep talent there. You can say whatever, but when you have a talented player that wants a little coddling, you coddle, get him in spring practice, and then coach him. He should have handled that sooner. Also, i do not doubt that bb just got tired of waiting for dd, you think saban or meyer would let a 5 star talent sit for three days without at least trying to talk to them. Once bb expressed his concern after the coaching change he became a 5 star recruit with tn ties that our coach refused to try and recruit,

strike one dd, i will root for him and back the team, but this is his failure.
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actually it's kiffin's fault.:thumbsup:
 
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#207
I posted this in the other thread, but I'll say it here also. For those clueless enough to think DD should have handled this differently I'll ask you a couple of questions. What else should DD have done to keep BB? You want our coach to go crawling on his knees to beg some 19yr old kid to stay on the team?

If the kid didn't want to be here, then so be it. His talent will be missed, but not to the point that I would want our HC catering to him. All that does is cause discontent among the other players that do want to be here. This team is going to have a hard enough time this year without the rest of the team resenting our HC because he catered to one player who obviously didn't come to Tennessee because it's Tennessee.
 
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SGMVols said:
Miami is better than Tennessee. That has nothing to do with my opinion of the ACC vs. the SEC as a whole.

Freshman All-SEC honors mean nothing. Almost any freshman that starts or gets significant PT can make that team. And NMT wasn't that good last year.
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Wow! Miami was 7-6 and 9-4 in AB's two years there. They were 7th and 5th in the ACC in total D those years... and AB couldn't carve out anything better than a ST job. Yet you still say he wasn't so much a bust that he couldn't have beaten out FR who made contributions to the SEC's 5th best D last year?

UT has been very, very weak the past two years... but I would be willing to bet that they would have finished at least as well as Miami did. Miami is NOT a strong, healthy program.
 
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miamicane said:
so this is dooleys fault? haha wow

dooley better win..he stepped in a lion's den
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the situation our program is in, yeah.

as for fans, whether or not you like him or hate the hire or whatever, i don't think there's a coach in America that deserves a little patience more than DD. where we are right now isn't his fault, and he's got a lot of catching up to do.

check back in 5 years and then we can talk about whether or not he's getting it done or not.
 
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jakez4ut said:
the situation our program is in, yeah.

as for fans, whether or not you like him or hate the hire or whatever, i don't think there's a coach in America that deserves a little patience more than DD. where we are right now isn't his fault, and he's got a lot of catching up to do.

check back in 5 years and then we can talk about whether or not he's getting it done or not.
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You're waaaay more patient than most of the folks up in here.
 
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jakez4ut said:
check back in 5 years and then we can talk about whether or not he's getting it done or not.
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I see no reason why he should get 5 years if there's no evidence by 2013 that he has UT going in the right direction.
 
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but in all seriousness, i'm not going to bag on dooley right now. the program right now is kind of a mess. it's not going to get fixed this year or next, and if you listen to him, his plans are more long term. the approach he's taking will take longer to implement than Kiffin's wam bam thank you mamn approach. not saying it's good or bad, just what it is.
 
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sjt18 said:
Wow! Miami was 7-6 and 9-4 in AB's two years there. They were 7th and 5th in the ACC in total D those years... and AB couldn't carve out anything better than a ST job. Yet you still say he wasn't so much a bust that he couldn't have beaten out FR who made contributions to the SEC's 5th best D last year?

UT has been very, very weak the past two years... but I would be willing to bet that they would have finished at least as well as Miami did. Miami is NOT a strong, healthy program.
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:huggy:
 
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#219
jakez4ut said:
the situation our program is in, yeah.

as for fans, whether or not you like him or hate the hire or whatever, i don't think there's a coach in America that deserves a little patience more than DD. where we are right now isn't his fault, and he's got a lot of catching up to do.

check back in 5 years and then we can talk about whether or not he's getting it done or not.
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SGMVols said:
I see no reason why he should get 5 years if there's no evidence by 2013 that he has UT going in the right direction.
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hmanvolfan said:
You're waaaay more patient than most of the folks up in here.
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See what I mean.... :eek:lol:
 
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SGMVols said:
I see no reason why he should get 5 years if there's no evidence by 2013 that he has UT going in the right direction.
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so in 3 years all of our problems should be fixed, AND we should be competing at the top of the conference again? i've not been on here in a while, but our program has been in a state of flux for the last 5 years, now going on it's 3rd head coach.

i for one am just ready to see thing settle down and give this guy fair chance. if he sucks, he won't be here anyway, and we'll move on to the 4th head coach in however many years.

i'm just saying where we are now and probably next year isn't his fault, he's basically starting over.
 
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SGMVols said:
I see no reason why he should get 5 years if there's no evidence by 2013 that he has UT going in the right direction.
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We'll probably know by '11 at the latest. He should get a "chance" to produce in '12... then be gone if he doesn't make serious progress.

UT has two top 10 classes and should have a top 15 class to go with it in Feb. If he can keep them out of trouble and develop them, that is more than enough talent to compete for and win the SEC no later than '12.

I like DD. I hope he does well. But the program cannot afford patience. The recruiting people are complaining about now is much better than what it will be if UT stays down for 3 more seasons and doesn't make a change.
 
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jakez4ut said:
but in all seriousness, i'm not going to bag on dooley right now. the program right now is kind of a mess. it's not going to get fixed this year or next, and if you listen to him, his plans are more long term. the approach he's taking will take longer to implement than Kiffin's wam bam thank you mamn approach. not saying it's good or bad, just what it is.
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You're right and I agree 100%. There's just a faction in here that continues to rail on Dooley being a bad hire and they aren't willing to give him a chance to prove his worth. Haven't seen you around lately. Does that have something to do with your wife being pregnant? :whistling:
 
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#225
hmanvolfan said:
You're right and I agree 100%. There's just a faction in here that continues to rail on Dooley being a bad hire and they aren't willing to give him a chance to prove his worth. Haven't seen you around lately. Does that have something to do with your wife being pregnant? :whistling:
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not really, i got a new job last year and it eats up pretty much all my time, whereas my last job, well, i certain freedoms that allowed me to, uh, well......keep up with the goings on around here a little more often.
 
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