strike one cDD

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ddubb76

ddubb76

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ok, i am going to say it. I blame dd for bb. It was his responsibility to keep talent in knoxville. While i can understand that he didnt feel the need to recruit a player currently on the team, he should have. It is his job to get and keep talent there. You can say whatever, but when you have a talented player that wants a little coddling, you coddle, get him in spring practice, and then coach him. He should have handled that sooner. Also, i do not doubt that bb just got tired of waiting for dd, you think saban or meyer would let a 5 star talent sit for three days without at least trying to talk to them. Once bb expressed his concern after the coaching change he became a 5 star recruit with tn ties that our coach refused to try and recruit,

strike one dd, i will root for him and back the team, but this is his failure.
 
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If you blame CDD for BB, you are out of your mind. OUT OF YOUR MIND. He met with his family and him, he gave him every opportunity, and BB just didn't want it.

Strike one on you, buddy.
 
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I haven't seen much intelligence from you. Starting with the "I expect to win right away". Also, Dooley learned from Saban. Saban wouldn't have kissed BB's arse to keep him. Believe that
 
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Bryce Brown was not going to be able to do much contact work.

His spring practice would have been in shorts. That's not a productive spring practice.
 
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if im not mistaken wasn't Bryce the one who chose to not show up to camp or whatever? was it not Bryce who decided to step away for a little while because he was going thru some issues with family??? i just don't see how you can say Dooley is the one to blame completely.
 
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I think the message Dooley was trying to send, and he made it very clear, is that he only wants players who want to play for the University of Tennessee. It was pretty clear that Brown came here for Kiffin, not to play for the Vols. I agree that we need talented players, but we need them here for the right reasons.
 
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IPorange said:
If you blame CDD for BB, you are out of your mind. OUT OF YOUR MIND. He met with his family and him, he gave him every opportunity, and BB just didn't want it.

Strike one on you, buddy.
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More like strike 20. He was the one that started the ridiculous "we better win right away" thread
 
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ddubb76 said:
ok, i am going to say it. I blame dd for bb. It was his responsibility to keep talent in knoxville. While i can understand that he didnt feel the need to recruit a player currently on the team, he should have. It is his job to get and keep talent there. You can say whatever, but when you have a talented player that wants a little coddling, you coddle, get him in spring practice, and then coach him. He should have handled that sooner. Also, i do not doubt that bb just got tired of waiting for dd, you think saban or meyer would let a 5 star talent sit for three days without at least trying to talk to them. Once bb expressed his concern after the coaching change he became a 5 star recruit with tn ties that our coach refused to try and recruit,

strike one dd, i will root for him and back the team, but this is his failure.
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No. Do you think Saban coddles?

For the life of me, I think BB has the wrong entourage. I'm not sure where the young man is getting advice from, but none of it is good at this point.

At some point, the young man is going to have to man-up and make a decision about his future. He needs to play football somewhere. I'm not sure I want a young man who either:

1. Doesn't have the guts to ask for the release face-to-face, even knowing the answer

2. Certainly doesn't want to be here when every leader on the team has said they would welcome him back.
 
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Well when a selfish, prima donna, punk kid, who thinks he is above the team, and does not even want to meet with CDD, you cant really blame CDD. JMO
 
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lylsmorr said:
I haven't seen much intelligence from you. Starting with the "I expect to win right away". Also, he learned from Saban. Saban wouldn't have kissed BB's arse to keep him. Believe that
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Saban is a heartless bastard when it comes to kids and their scholarships.

You don't produce? You're gone.

You don't want to be here? Leave.

I like that about him.
 
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justingroves said:
Saban is a heartless bastard when it comes to kids and their scholarships.

You don't produce? You're gone.

You don't want to be here? Leave.

I like that about him.
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I 100% agree. Don't coddle kids. They're 18, time to act like adults. Work hard or gtfo
 
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ddubb76 said:
ok, i am going to say it. I blame dd for bb. It was his responsibility to keep talent in knoxville. While i can understand that he didnt feel the need to recruit a player currently on the team, he should have. It is his job to get and keep talent there. You can say whatever, but when you have a talented player that wants a little coddling, you coddle, get him in spring practice, and then coach him. He should have handled that sooner. Also, i do not doubt that bb just got tired of waiting for dd, you think saban or meyer would let a 5 star talent sit for three days without at least trying to talk to them. Once bb expressed his concern after the coaching change he became a 5 star recruit with tn ties that our coach refused to try and recruit,

strike one dd, i will root for him and back the team, but this is his failure.
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There is plenty of blame to be dished out. You can blame BB's dad, you can blame his handler, you can blame Kiffin, but the majority of the blame rests on Bryce plain and simple.


**** coddling a player btw. Thats the most asinine thing Ive heard someone say in a long time.
 
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ddubb76 said:
ok, i am going to say it. I blame dd for bb. <snip>

strike one dd, i will root for him and back the team, but this is his failure.
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You can't have a strike when there was no ball pitched.

You are so wrong about this it is not even funny. Like a previous poster said, you must be out of your mind.

Tennessee football is so much bigger than any one player. You can't see the forest for the tree, in this case.
 
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justingroves said:
Saban is a heartless bastard when it comes to kids and their scholarships.

You don't produce? You're gone.

You don't want to be here? Leave.

I like that about him.
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Exactly, this is a privelage not a gurantee. If you are not producing or do not want to be part of the team any longer, then go somewhere else.
 
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lylsmorr said:
I haven't seen much intelligence from you. Starting with the "I expect to win right away". Also, he learned from Saban. Saban wouldn't have kissed BB's arse to keep him. Believe that
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This! You really think Saban or Meyer would really re recruit a kid that didn't want to participate in spring practice...:no:
 
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ddubb76 said:
ok, i am going to say it. I blame dd for bb. It was his responsibility to keep talent in knoxville. While i can understand that he didnt feel the need to recruit a player currently on the team, he should have. It is his job to get and keep talent there. You can say whatever, but when you have a talented player that wants a little coddling, you coddle, get him in spring practice, and then coach him. He should have handled that sooner. Also, i do not doubt that bb just got tired of waiting for dd, you think saban or meyer would let a 5 star talent sit for three days without at least trying to talk to them. Once bb expressed his concern after the coaching change he became a 5 star recruit with tn ties that our coach refused to try and recruit,

strike one dd, i will root for him and back the team, but this is his failure.
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To extrapolate and paraphrase, there's no coddling in football!!

For whatever reason BB is a drama queen. Wish he'd stop, man up and and just play ball. But to blame CDD for BB's overly dramatic tendencies is ridiculous. Said it before, my only concern is not the lack of coddling, it's even keeping the door open - but I'll go with his judgement.
 
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You can play the blame game with many people. Dooley is not one of them.

I hope you are wearing a fire-proof suit. You're about to get FLAMED!!!
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I think it is great that we have a coach who has a backbone, and thats not going to let these kids try and run him over.
 
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IPorange said:
If you blame CDD for BB, you are out of your mind. OUT OF YOUR MIND. He met with his family and him, he gave him every opportunity, and BB just didn't want it.

Strike one on you, buddy.
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I agree 100%.He gave Bryce Brown every opportunity.Bryce Brown dug his own hole.Now he needs to stick his head in it and cover it up.The lack of a quality back up to Poole hurts a little.But he is replaceable.:good!:
 
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ddubb76 said:
ok, i am going to say it. I blame dd for bb. It was his responsibility to keep talent in knoxville. While i can understand that he didnt feel the need to recruit a player currently on the team, he should have. It is his job to get and keep talent there. You can say whatever, but when you have a talented player that wants a little coddling, you coddle, get him in spring practice, and then coach him. He should have handled that sooner. Also, i do not doubt that bb just got tired of waiting for dd, you think saban or meyer would let a 5 star talent sit for three days without at least trying to talk to them. Once bb expressed his concern after the coaching change he became a 5 star recruit with tn ties that our coach refused to try and recruit,

strike one dd, i will root for him and back the team, but this is his failure.
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Bryce Brown was not even the best back on campus.....he should have never even backed up hardesty last year.
 
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lylsmorr said:
More like strike 20. He was the one that started the ridiculous "we better win right away" thread
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it is ridiculous in your opinion. I have seen multiple threads agreeing with my thoughts, I showed you guys evidence where coaches either succeed right a way or fail long term, and as far as bb goes, cdd sent a message he wanted players that wanted to play for tn, but he really didnt give bb the option to see if he wanted to by allienating him(ie everytime questioned about brown, "he is not part of the team") bb may be a premadonna, but he was a talent that even saban would have at least schedule recruiting around. If saban doesnt meet and talk to these recruits and at least give some effort, how does he get so many?
 
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