Strassburg shutdown opion thread

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I would shut him down now and use him in the playoffs -- instead of waiting any longer ----
 
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Yep. Shut him down for a month and a half then crank him back up in the heat of October. That's what I'd do.
 
#3
#3
I would say fawk it and let him go for it., as a franchise they've always been losers, this is the best chance they've had in a while. Who's to say they'll ever get another shot.
 
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VolsFan4Ever-11 said:
I would say fawk it and let him go for it., as a franchise they've always been losers, this is the best chance they've had in a while. Who's to say they'll ever get another shot.
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Considering their current roster, I'd say they will have shots the next 3-4 years if not longer.
 
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#6
If we're in the playoffs and he doesn't pitch, I will be sad.
 
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#9
They're going to the playoffs. Baseball Prospectus gives them a 99 percent chance, with an 80 percent chance to win the division. So they probably don't even need him to make the playoffs. It's crazy to let keep him pitching now, in games when that they don't really need him anyway, while seriously thinking about sitting him in the playoffs, when they will.

They should shut him down right now, while they've got a five-game lead. He should sit a month, assuming that lead doesn't vanish. Then they should crank him back up in late September so he gets two or three starts to get back into it before the playoffs.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
They're going to the playoffs. Baseball Prospectus gives them a 99 percent chance, with an 80 percent chance to win the division. So they probably don't even need him to make the playoffs. It's crazy to let keep him pitching now, in games when that they don't really need him anyway, while seriously thinking about sitting him in the playoffs, when they will.

They should shut him down right now, while they've got a five-game lead. He should sit a month, assuming that lead doesn't vanish. Then they should crank him back up in late September so he gets two or three starts to get back into it before the playoffs.
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They also gave the Braves a 99% chance at making the playoffs with a month of ball left last year and well we all remember what happened there. But they don't have Frediot at the helm.. So they are straight.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
They also gave the Braves a 99% chance at making the playoffs with a month of ball left last year and well we all remember what happened there. But they don't have Frediot at the helm.. So they are straight.
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BP was right. The Braves did have a 99 percent chance of making the playoffs. They committed one of the most egregious choke jobs in major league history for a whole month....and still could have made it in on the last day of the season.

I think the Nats are safe.
 
#12
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Pitchers who've had the same surgery say there's no better(stronger) time than the first year after. I say let him pitch
 
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Leo Mazzone said it was an " absolute joke " to shut him down, Washington hasn't had a team in the postseason in 79 years.

I'd put all my chips on that right arm of his and see where it took me.
 
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GahLee said:
Leo Mazzone said it was an " absolute joke " to shut him down, Washington hasn't had a team in the postseason in 79 years.

I'd put all my chips on that right arm of his and see where it took me.
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If I were running the Nats and they were tied with the Braves, there's no way I'd shut him down. But they're up five and have maintained about that same lead the whole way. Why not get him some rest now and crank him back up before the playoffs?

There's no way in hell I wouldn't have him pitching in the postseason.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If I were running the Nats and they were tied with the Braves, there's no way I'd shut him down. But they're up five and have maintained about that same lead the whole way. Why not get him some rest now and crank him back up before the playoffs?

There's no way in hell I wouldn't have him pitching in the postseason.
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If they want to stick to the plan of shutting him down at a certain number of innings. I agree.

He's their ace, what team goes into the postseason without their ace ( by choice )?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If I were running the Nats and they were tied with the Braves, there's no way I'd shut him down. But they're up five and have maintained about that same lead the whole way. Why not get him some rest now and crank him back up before the playoffs?

There's no way in hell I wouldn't have him pitching in the postseason.
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I get limiting his work, but I find it comical that 6 or 7 starts in the next 6 weeks are somehow going to wreck his career.
 
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I think it's smart to want to limit him this year. They've mostly done a nice job of limiting his workload by getting him out after about six innings; only a couple of times has he thrown an egregiously high number of pitches. Down the stretch with a nice division lead would be a really nice time to save more of his workload by skipping some starts now. He is, after all, looking at potentially five or six extra high-pressure postseason starts in October.

I saw what the Braves did to Steve Avery, who could have been better than either Smoltz or Glavine. I admire what the Nats are at least trying to do.
 
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GAVol said:
I get limiting his work, but I find it comical that 6 or 7 starts in the next 6 weeks are somehow going to wreck his career.
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Right now he's at 23 starts and 133 innings. The Nats have 45 games left, so Strasburg should be set to start 9 of them. Let's say the Nats go deep in the playoffs and he starts 6 extra times then. That's 15 starts; that's potentially 100 more innings, which would put him around 230 innings for the year. That's a Justin Verlander-level workload, not something you want to give a 23 year old kid coming off arm surgery. Particularly when he's one of the two or three most valuable assets in the game.

Carving six or seven starts off that when the team's got a nice lead in August and early September seems like an easy choice to me.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If I were running the Nats and they were tied with the Braves, there's no way I'd shut him down. But they're up five and have maintained about that same lead the whole way. Why not get him some rest now and crank him back up before the playoffs?

There's no way in hell I wouldn't have him pitching in the postseason.
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100% agree. Glad they aren't taking your approach to it
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Right now he's at 23 starts and 133 innings. The Nats have 45 games left, so Strasburg should be set to start 9 of them. Let's say the Nats go deep in the playoffs and he starts 6 extra times then. That's 15 starts; that's potentially 100 more innings, which would put him around 230 innings for the year. That's a Justin Verlander-level workload, not something you want to give a 23 year old kid coming off arm surgery. Particularly when he's one of the two or three most valuable assets in the game.

Carving six or seven starts off that when the team's got a nice lead in August and early September seems like an easy choice to me.
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Damn Braves - I wish they would go into a tailspin now
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Right now he's at 23 starts and 133 innings. The Nats have 45 games left, so Strasburg should be set to start 9 of them. Let's say the Nats go deep in the playoffs and he starts 6 extra times then. That's 15 starts; that's potentially 100 more innings, which would put him around 230 innings for the year. That's a Justin Verlander-level workload, not something you want to give a 23 year old kid coming off arm surgery. Particularly when he's one of the two or three most valuable assets in the game.

Carving six or seven starts off that when the team's got a nice lead in August and early September seems like an easy choice to me.
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So skip his turn every 2nd start. Stick him in the bullpen. Option him out for 3 weeks. Limit him to 3-4 innings per start. There are any number of things they can do to keep him around 180-190 innings that don't involve screwing with team chemistry.
 
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GAVol said:
So skip his turn every 2nd start. Stick him in the bullpen. Option him out for 3 weeks. Limit him to 3-4 innings per start. There are any number of things they can do to keep him around 180-190 innings that don't involve screwing with team chemistry.
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Totally agree. I think the club would be dumb to shut him down if he feels fine. Having him throw out of the bullpen or limiting his innings per start would be my top two choices.
 
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GAVol said:
So skip his turn every 2nd start. Stick him in the bullpen. Option him out for 3 weeks. Limit him to 3-4 innings per start. There are any number of things they can do to keep him around 180-190 innings that don't involve screwing with team chemistry.
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The bullpen makes so much sense. Give him two innings every four days or something.
 
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With the dodgers trade, this sport has officially become a joke. You have three teams that are trying to buy a championship, and the rest of the teams fighting for scraps. No wonder football dwarfs baseball in popularity. Hope all three big buyers are knocked out in their first playoff series.
 
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