Stop with the "Negavols" nonsense

#27
#27
You can put lipstick on a pig and it will still squeal about who should be fired, hired and mired...hogwash....dere's seuch a thang as negavols. They are here, theys real...just start a thread and give it a title like..."Hey who wants to fire Dooley." They will post in droves.
 
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Everyone on here is either a passionate Tennessee fan or a troll. There is no such thing as a freaking Negavol.
I love the Vols, but I don't think Derek Dooley is the guy to take this program back to the SEC Championship. I'd LOVE to be proven wrong, but I just don't believe I will. That doesn't make me a bad fan or even a Derek Dooley hater. It just means I am a realistic fan that pays attention when I watch my team play. It doesn't even mean I abandon hope that we could win every Saturday.
Calling us negavols is like calling someone anti-American because they don't like the current President's policies. Please don't turn this into a political thread, I just want to make the point that each example is asinine.
Negavols is a frustrating misnomer. Please come up with a more clever and appropriate designation for the realists on this board...if you must.
I assure you that I don't want anything "negative" to happen to the "Vols".

GBO

Your believing he will fail is no more realistic than me thinking he can still get it done.

IMO "realistic" is the most over used word on Volnation.
 
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Feelings would be tad bit different had Dooley won several games he had in the bag. Lsu and 12 men of field. NC in the MCB. Kentucky last year just to name a few
 
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Be honest here! Fans who believe that a coach can come into a program that has been torn apart as tennessee was and rebuild that team in 2-3 years with a limit on the number of scholarships allowed is being totaly unrealistic. Few coaches are 100% right on the players that they sign. We all know that it takes approx. 30 SEC caliber players to compete in the SEC. I might add that 2-3 years of experience is also needed. When a new staff is brought in, not all of the coaches are going to be the right ones. When Johnny Majors was hired it took several seasons before he was able to get the right coaches. So for you guys that do not want to be refered to as Negavols,get some patience!


man we cant even beat another sec team, im all for rebuilding but when we go backwards every year thats not a very good rebuilding job. i cant remember when we supposedly had this much talent at the qb and receiver position and watched us piss away games the last 2 years. hes ran off players and coaches since hes been there not to mention put all the blame on the players while not assuming any for himself. maybe if we didnt get rolled by every decent team we play people wouldnt hate him so much.
 
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Everyone on here is either a passionate Tennessee fan or a troll. There is no such thing as a freaking Negavol.
I love the Vols, but I don't think Derek Dooley is the guy to take this program back to the SEC Championship. I'd LOVE to be proven wrong, but I just don't believe I will. That doesn't make me a bad fan or even a Derek Dooley hater. It just means I am a realistic fan that pays attention when I watch my team play. It doesn't even mean I abandon hope that we could win every Saturday.
Calling us negavols is like calling someone anti-American because they don't like the current President's policies. Please don't turn this into a political thread, I just want to make the point that each example is asinine.
Negavols is a frustrating misnomer. Please come up with a more clever and appropriate designation for the realists on this board...if you must.
I assure you that I don't want anything "negative" to happen to the "Vols".

GBO

Ok, you grumpyvol!
 
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Your believing he will no more realistic than me thinking he can still get it done.

IMO "realistic" is the most over used word on Volnation.

I base opinion on stats. You base them on unsubstantiated optimism. Commendable but not realistic
 
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Negavols= Users who have unrealistic expectations for a program that was torn down to its foundations.

Doolaiders= People who understand that this rebuild is a 4-6 year process and that removing the current administration GUARANTEES mediocrity for the next 5-10 more years.

Whats important to understand is that Negavols and Doolaiders are both Vol fans with the same goal- WINS...

Anti's- Trolls who are fans of other teams who come here to stir up a hornets nest

This is per the book of Jimvol, page 1 chapter 1
 
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I base opinion on stats. You base them on unsubstantiated optimism. Commendable but not realistic

Stats that dont take into consideration the state of the program when he got here.

I look at where we were when he got here and where we are now. The wins and loses might not reflect the progress thats been made, but I see it. As ive said time and time again, I just think he should get to coach his senior class, then make a judgement on changing coaches or not.
 
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Yeah I don't expect to see National Championships but a little consistency and improvement isn't to much to ask. If we go 6-6 this year we will not be ranked pre-season nor should we expect any bcs bowl all of a sudden. We have to first be able to compete before we can win and we aren't competing outside of that 1 georgia game. So like to make it short at this rate it will be year at before we are able to contend again.
 
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Negavols= Users who have unrealistic expectations for a program that was torn down to its foundations.

Doolaiders= People who understand that this rebuild is a 4-6 year process and that removing the current administration GUARANTEES mediocrity for the next 5-10 more years.

Whats important to understand is that Negavols and Doolaiders are both Vol fans with the same goal- WINS...

Anti's- Trolls who are fans of other teams who come here to stir up a hornets nest

This is per the book of Jimvol, page 1 chapter 1

I disagree with the Doolaiders definition. Changing coaches doesnt mean 5-10 more years of mediocrity. Who ever the coach is for the next year or two will have an established roster and should win quickly. If its Dools, he should start winning consistantly too.

This is my problem with getting rid of Dooley, he wont get a chance to reap the benifits of everything his done so far if he is let go. The next couple of years things will be much easier.
 
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Everyone on here is either a passionate Tennessee fan or a troll. There is no such thing as a freaking Negavol.
I love the Vols, but I don't think Derek Dooley is the guy to take this program back to the SEC Championship. I'd LOVE to be proven wrong, but I just don't believe I will. That doesn't make me a bad fan or even a Derek Dooley hater. It just means I am a realistic fan that pays attention when I watch my team play. It doesn't even mean I abandon hope that we could win every Saturday.
Calling us negavols is like calling someone anti-American because they don't like the current President's policies. Please don't turn this into a political thread, I just want to make the point that each example is asinine.
Negavols is a frustrating misnomer. Please come up with a more clever and appropriate designation for the realists on this board...if you must.
I assure you that I don't want anything "negative" to happen to the "Vols".

GBO

Adam ????? Is this u? Kingtut- I think it might be him!
 
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#42
Everyone on here is either a passionate Tennessee fan or a troll. There is no such thing as a freaking Negavol.
I love the Vols, but I don't think Derek Dooley is the guy to take this program back to the SEC Championship. I'd LOVE to be proven wrong, but I just don't believe I will. That doesn't make me a bad fan or even a Derek Dooley hater. It just means I am a realistic fan that pays attention when I watch my team play. It doesn't even mean I abandon hope that we could win every Saturday.
Calling us negavols is like calling someone anti-American because they don't like the current President's policies. Please don't turn this into a political thread, I just want to make the point that each example is asinine.
Negavols is a frustrating misnomer. Please come up with a more clever and appropriate designation for the realists on this board...if you must.
I assure you that I don't want anything "negative" to happen to the "Vols".

GBO


Funny how realistic all depends on who is speaking point of view, been a Vol for close to 45 years, there has always been sort of a divide whether pro or con, glass half full or empty, positive or negative on a coach. It is never going to change, just make your point and go to the next subject, cause the guy on the opposite side of the argument thinks he is realistic and your not, since I think in this case Dooley deserves at least one more season, no matter what, nannah nannah I right and your wrong, lol. But I do agree we are all fans regardless of our thoughts on Dooley. GBO back at yatcha
 
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I would even rap about it if I could. I think nega- and anti- have two very different meanings. In fact, I would argue that Dooley supporters are anti-Vols. They have set up for themselves a false messiah in Mecca.

They're mostly just overcompensating for the absurd negativity being broadcast by a vocal minority.

In my opinion, there are 3 reasons people come to this board. 1 is to troll, and we'll ignore them. 2 is to talk about the vols or to get information. 3 is to ***** about how much it sucks when we lose.

The people that come here for #2 are getting tired of dealing with the people who come here for #3.
 
#44
#44
You are mostly right... and it still does not matter. The program has to come before Dooley. If he goes 7-5 this year then he's proven nothing. Recruiting will likely suffer. The program will take a giant step backward.

I will even go this far. If he goes 0-3 over the next three games then he should be cut loose so the replacement can have a chance to get a decent recruiting class pulled together.

He MUST prove he can coach in the SEC. Fans need it but more importantly the program needs that credibility.

I agree. If he loses the next three, he needs to be fired. He will have proven that he is unworthy to walk in the shadow of the Great General and he can return to his loudmouth momma, who can coo gently to him saying, "Come to momma, mah little precious! Momma's not gonna let them mean ole hillbillies be mean to you! Hunkah down and take that Dawg For Life job at UGa that was created for you!"
 
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#45
How exactly has he brought us out of the hole? Please explain.

Realistically - this team is 5 plays away from being undefeated this year. 5 plays. Both of those teams are now ranked #4 and #14. Our upcoming schedule includes #19, #3, and #1. IMO - we have more than a punchers chance in all 3 of those games. #1 might be a stretch but I believe this team has the ability and chutzpa to duke it out with them. The proverbial hole, hold your breath, was the coaching and player attrition our program and fans have suffered through. Now that CDD and Co., IMO, are putting things together, it's the naysayers that are the loudest. IMO - they want him to fail just so they can feebly say, "I told you so".
 
#46
#46
Funny how realistic all depends on who is speaking point of view, been a Vol for close to 45 years, there has always been sort of a divide whether pro or con, glass half full or empty, positive or negative on a coach. It is never going to change, just make your point and go to the next subject, cause the guy on the opposite side of the argument thinks he is realistic and your not, since I think in this case Dooley deserves at least one more season, no matter what, nannah nannah I right and your wrong, lol. But I do agree we are all fans regardless of our thoughts on Dooley. GBO back at yatcha


I did agree last year that Dooley should have this season. That was before he lost to a QB-less, worthless UK team, ending a 26-game winning streak. That loss cost him a year in my eyes. He needs to be punished for it, and the pressure needs to remain ramped up on him. Lose the next three, then pack up.
 
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#47
In the beginning, pretty much everybody was on board with a 3-4 year rebuilding that would show serious results in Year 3. Now everybody's pushing it back to 5-6 years. Every year, the excuses change and expectations get pushed further into the future. I hope Dooley gets it done-- and we'll see how the season plays out-- but we are progressing slowly and inconsistently, and our junior playmakers are playing with less poise and confidence than other teams' freshmen.
 
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#48
How about NegaDools for the ones that don't think he can/will ever get it done? I think Negavols goes back to the Fire Fulmer days.

BTW, I am what is labeled a Sunshine Pumper. Don't mind it a bit...pretty funny actually.

It`s a lot more fun to pump sunshine than it is to pump the septic tank stuff!
 
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I did agree last year that Dooley should have this season. That was before he lost to a QB-less, worthless UK team, ending a 26-game winning streak. That loss cost him a year in my eyes. He needs to be punished for it, and the pressure needs to remain ramped up on him. Lose the next three, then pack up.

Everyone seems to see this as a coaching problem, I've seen steady somewhat slower than I want it at times but steady nonetheless, I see it as a player and roster problem at this point, we have had a few bad seeds weeded out the team seems to be making better improvement be patient evaluate it at the end of next season go from there. JMO. I don't blame Dooley for the KY loss, that was a players not performing to standards they knew the season was over and refused to exert themselves as they should have. We have a slew of new assistant coaches let's see if it works. I don't like the quick fix mentally of most today, change just for change just to pray that it might get better versus old fashion hard work just doesn't appeal to me I want absolutes that it is totally broken or that the next coach is going to be definitely better. Since I think we are closer than you do to being back I am much more willing to wait another year.
 
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Objective criticism is a worthwhile goal but that is not what we are constantly deluged with in thread after thread. Masquerading under the term of "realist" while engaging continuously in hypercritical dialogue, which literally drips with sarcasm, is disingenuous to the nth degree. If that doesn't warrent the designation of "Negavol," I don't know what does. However, this cannibalistic attitude, when it comes to Tennessee coaches, is hardly new. It is the same mindset that drove people to send a moving van to Bill Battle's house and it is the same attitude that Coach Majors referred to eloquently as the "Legions of the Miserable." If we are going to dispense with anything, I would argue that it should be failure to call a spade a spade. In that light, "Negavol" is a very accurate definition for a subspecies of Tennessee fans.
 
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