Stop with the complaining over 3* recruits

[volmanic]

I have not posted on here in some time now, but I am seeing all over social media the bashing on our coaching staff because we have a total of 15 3* recruits for 2017. This post is not directed at any single person, it's just please stop and trust what our coaches are doing. It's easy for all of the armchair coaches to talk negatively about our coaching staff, and the talent they are bringing in.

So I thought I would do some research on some of the top NFL names, and where they were coming out of High School. This is just some of the names I found, and there were plenty more I could have added:

J.J. Watt- 2*

LeVeon Bell- 2*

Marcus Mariota- 3*

Antonio Brown- 2*

Aaron Rodgers- 3*

Cameron Sutton ( still in college) but was a 2*

Victor Cruz- 2*

Jordy Nelson- 2*

Chris Johnson- 2*

Julius Thomas- 2*

Demarcus Ware- Unrated

Ed Reed- Unrated

Eric Fisher- 2*

Tyler Eifert- 3*

Dontari Poe- 2*

Demarius Thomas- 3*

Malcolm Jenkins- 3*

Clay Matthews- Unrated


Trust our coaches!!! Go Vols!

 

[TNnative]

Good points, and well stated.

However, you are trying to prove a point to star gazing, poll addicted Vols fans.

I would wish you good luck with that, but why waste it?

 

[bignewt]

I'm interested to see VN's different takes on the meaning of stars, this breaking of new ground should be both enlightening and educational!

 

[greazy1722]

I agree with you a 100% I don't believe in ratings ..for example they have Brandon Johnson at 3 star but he play like a 5 star no way he should have been a 3 star player... lower rated players are more hungry always play with a chip on there shoulder. MICHIGAN STATE rarely have high rated players but always compete every year to win championships..all about coaching and developing look at all those great players you name out that's in the league besides SUTTON which he is a beast! FOOTBALL SEASON HURRY PLEASE GO VOLS!

 

[CrunchingTheVolz]

There will always be a hidden gem or diamond in the rough here and there. Digging through years of NFL players who signed with any one of 100+ schools and listing them doesn't really make sense, especially when you consider we have more 3* guys in ONE CLASS than you listed digging through all those years at all those schools. History tells us if you sign more 3* guys than 4-5* guys you will not be playing for championships. Just the way it is.

 

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I have not posted on here in some time now, but I am seeing all over social media the bashing on our coaching staff because we have a total of 15 3* recruits for 2017. This post is not directed at any single person, it's just please stop and trust what our coaches are doing. It's easy for all of the armchair coaches to talk negatively about our coaching staff, and the talent they are bringing in.

So I thought I would do some research on some of the top NFL names, and where they were coming out of High School. This is just some of the names I found, and there were plenty more I could have added:

J.J. Watt- 2*

LeVeon Bell- 2*

Marcus Mariota- 3*

Antonio Brown- 2*

Aaron Rodgers- 3*

Cameron Sutton ( still in college) but was a 2*

Victor Cruz- 2*

Jordy Nelson- 2*

Chris Johnson- 2*

Julius Thomas- 2*

Demarcus Ware- Unrated

Ed Reed- Unrated

Eric Fisher- 2*

Tyler Eifert- 3*

Dontari Poe- 2*

Demarius Thomas- 3*

Malcolm Jenkins- 3*

Clay Matthews- Unrated


Trust our coaches!!! Go Vols!

This list would be obliterated by the 4 and 5* recruits in the NFL.

 

[Jax_Vol]

This list would be obliterated by the 4 and 5* recruits in the NFL.

We could name that game...'Star Wars'

 

[kdog2455]

i agree that if all you can sign are 3* players we have not moved back to the elite in college football. If you look hard enough, you can find almost anything. Listing the few 3* and lower players that played in the NFL is silly, if you listed the 4* and 5* you would have to take multiple pages. Our coaching staff should be better than this and not settle for such low rated high school players

 

[SeanJean]

So you're telling me there are exceptions to a rule? No way. Cool.

Also, I continuously love how people equate making it in the NFL with collegiate success. There is a correlation, yes, but being a great college player doesn't necessarily mean you become an All Pro in the league, and vice versa. Some of the best college players of all time did not make it in the NFL. They are two different things.

 

[#1ManningFan]

I have not posted on here in some time now, but I am seeing all over social media the bashing on our coaching staff because we have a total of 15 3* recruits for 2017. This post is not directed at any single person, it's just please stop and trust what our coaches are doing. It's easy for all of the armchair coaches to talk negatively about our coaching staff, and the talent they are bringing in.

So I thought I would do some research on some of the top NFL names, and where they were coming out of High School. This is just some of the names I found, and there were plenty more I could have added:

J.J. Watt- 2*

LeVeon Bell- 2*

Marcus Mariota- 3*

Antonio Brown- 2*

Aaron Rodgers- 3*

Cameron Sutton ( still in college) but was a 2*

Victor Cruz- 2*

Jordy Nelson- 2*

Chris Johnson- 2*

Julius Thomas- 2*

Demarcus Ware- Unrated

Ed Reed- Unrated

Eric Fisher- 2*

Tyler Eifert- 3*

Dontari Poe- 2*

Demarius Thomas- 3*

Malcolm Jenkins- 3*

Clay Matthews- Unrated


Trust our coaches!!! Go Vols!

Amen brother! I remember in Super Bowl 49 they said that their wasn't one player from both the Seahawks and patriots that were 5 stars and 4 stars coming out of high. school.

 

[Theshag]

There are lots of great 3* players on the team, and in the NFL. That doesn't change the fact that there is no better way to predict the success of a football team then the team's recruiting ranking during the previous four years.

That said, I'm not panicking about this year's recruiting at all. Some of the guys will be bumped up in ranking, or bumped out, and some elite talent is going to want on board when they see what team 120 does this year. I've never been disappointed in Jones' recruiting, and I doubt I will start this year.

 

[#1ManningFan]

Amen brother! I remember in Super Bowl 49 they said that their wasn't one player from both the Seahawks and patriots that were 5 stars and 4 stars coming out of high. school.

Not saying I don't want the best players but I trust the coaches in their evaluations of players that fit there scheme regardless of star rankings.

 

[vols 30]

I'm interested to see VN's different takes on the meaning of stars, this breaking of new ground should be both enlightening and educational!

Offer lists , not stars is a good indicator of the type of recruit. Butch has a some 3 stars that have impressive offer lists. Unfortunately, he also has a couple that would make ETSU proud

 

[Special Ed]

Vol fans, even those dismayed by the lower star ratings of some recruits, have a right to express their opinions and those opinions could be just as useful as any others. Constructive criticism can often be more helpful to a program than looking at the world through orange-colored glasses and continually brown-nosing the staff. Telling other people what to think is a fruitless endeavor.

 

[FlyFishnVol]

The % of those star gazers vs. the rest <1%, haters going to hate. I will say this, if you look at teams that are consistently successful, the rankings of those classes are fairly high (Top 10). That being said, I prefer development over starting the 5* players, they tend to have a higher injury rate. I think CBJ "process" sees the 5* in these players once they get through the strength and conditioning program. Build a program, and the players will come. It is my opinion, that many of the 4*+ players are sitting back and judging CBJ this year, that is why the pressure to have a 10+ winning season is so HIGH. This is the year that proves, in the player's (recruits) eye, is this coaching staff for real?.........jmo

Go Vols!:rock:

 

[Volunteer_Kirby]

Gotta recruit at a high level to win consistently in this league. As others have already said, the chances of a 4* or a 5* guy making it to the league are massively higher than that of a 3 star or a 2 star. So what if you cherry pick some guys who were 2 or 3 stars but made it to the league? Everyone already knows the rating system isn't perfect, however it is the best indicator for success that we have to go on so it's pointless to trash it. The math doesn't lie.

 

[UT_King]

How I've missed the classic, "Look there is a player who was not a 4 or 5 star and he is really good so stars don't matter argument."

Throwing all logic to the wind.. must be a democrat.

 

[CrunchingTheVolz]

How I've missed the classic, "Look there is a player who was not a 4 or 5 star and he is really good so stars don't matter argument."

Throwing all logic to the wind.. must be a democrat.

Usually the only fans screaming that stars don't matter are the fans of schools not signing the 4-5* talent.

 

[Cactus Jack]

I have not posted on here in some time now, but I am seeing all over social media the bashing on our coaching staff because we have a total of 15 3* recruits for 2017. This post is not directed at any single person, it's just please stop and trust what our coaches are doing. It's easy for all of the armchair coaches to talk negatively about our coaching staff, and the talent they are bringing in.

So I thought I would do some research on some of the top NFL names, and where they were coming out of High School. This is just some of the names I found, and there were plenty more I could have added:

J.J. Watt- 2*

LeVeon Bell- 2*

Marcus Mariota- 3*

Antonio Brown- 2*

Aaron Rodgers- 3*

Cameron Sutton ( still in college) but was a 2*

Victor Cruz- 2*

Jordy Nelson- 2*

Chris Johnson- 2*

Julius Thomas- 2*

Demarcus Ware- Unrated

Ed Reed- Unrated

Eric Fisher- 2*

Tyler Eifert- 3*

Dontari Poe- 2*

Demarius Thomas- 3*

Malcolm Jenkins- 3*

Clay Matthews- Unrated


Trust our coaches!!! Go Vols!

wow, this is the first time I've ever heard that JJ Watt was a 2 star. ever. oh wait.

 

[HoptownVol]

I have not posted on here in some time now, but I am seeing all over social media the bashing on our coaching staff because we have a total of 15 3* recruits for 2017.

Then I would stay off of social media if I were you.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

There's a reason why there's more 3*s in the NFL than 4 & 5*s. Honestly, I would rather take my chances with the actual coach's opinion instead of some random analyst who gets paid to make these rankings on these prospects. There's players on our team right now that's outdoing 4 & 5*s who were a 3* or lower in high school. Rankings are only good for is bragging rights from opposing fans. It doesn't define an program's success on the field.

 

[Vols2DaWall]

There's a reason why there's more 3*s in the NFL than 4 & 5*s. Honestly, I would rather take my chances with the actual coach's opinion instead of some random analyst who gets paid to make these rankings on these prospects. There's players on our team right now that's outdoing 4 & 5*s who were a 3* or lower in high school. Rankings are only good for is bragging rights from opposing fans. It doesn't define an program's success on the field.

Yes there is a reason. It's because there are limited amounts of 4 and 5 stars while everybody else are 3 stars. Look instead at percentages of each star that make it to the league.

 

[Big Orange #1]

So giving me a few players from ALL across college football for the last 5 years is supposed to help my concerns? Look I'm all for "trusting the coaches" and coaches know "how to evaluate talent" - but lets be honest and real...... In college football you need the 5* and 4* kids to win Championships. If you say other wise you are just foolish. Bama wins championships every year because they get 5* and 4* players. If they were signing 14 3* players each year and still winning then i could see your point.
There is a reason why we are picked to do so good this year....look at our starters on both sides of the ball.... mostly 5* and 4* players.....don't be foolish and justify the lack of enthusiasm some have for this class....they realize that in order for us to compete year in and year out we need highly rated players!!!

 

[LittleVol]

Yes there is a reason. It's because there are limited amounts of 4 and 5 stars while everybody else are 3 stars. Look instead at percentages of each star that make it to the league.

No. NO.

That goes against your argument entirely. The premise - your premise - is that 4 stars or higher have a better chance at winning footbal games and playing in the NFL eventually.

So even if there are much more 3 stars... they are still 3 stars.

Plus with the limited roster spots in the NFL... that SHOULD mean more 4 stars or higher than anything else.

Put it this way, bigger blocks of ice will last longer than smaller ice cubes in the sun. So even if you have one big block ice versus 1 million cubes... the one blocj will last. While all million cubes will melt.

Numbers mean nothing in this argument...

Trust the coaches!!!!!!!!!!