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UT is the flagship institution in the state. It does a tremendous job of providing a quality education at an affordable price for the residents of the state. The current administration is doing a good job of elevating standards and slowly improving the academic facilities. I have great affection for the University that provided me with two degrees that have afforded me the opportunity and ability to earn a quality living. In fact, the only real problems I see at UT now are a semicompetent football coaching staff and the homers who continue to live in the increasingly distant past in a pathetic attempt to prop up King Fulamanure and His Court of Jesters.


You are right. Just like when you stated that "captain stats" has and will never win a championship. :whistling:
 
If you look at history in the SEC, it seems there is never a seamless or even partially seamless transition from an established coach. Georgia, Florida, Alabama, have all gone through the throes of the damned at various points.

Personally, I don't think UT is at a point to where we need to dive into those cold, cold waters just yet. Just my opinion.
 
Then I guess the institution gets credit for the Little/Goodrich body counts? Your typical, lame homer reaction is about par for the course. Anyone who is objective about UT obviously hates the entire institution. I have contributed, both in time and other means, more to the University in the last 12 months than you will in your entire existence. Now, go back to trying to concoct ludicrous scenarios to fluff up a medicore coaching staff that has led the Vols to the moribund level where the program currently resides.

You can't win an argument so you start your personal attacks again, very typical.

And you have no idea what I contribute to UT - as it's none of your business. But since you have to brag on yours - well, you know the old saying.
 
If you look at history in the SEC, it seems there is never a seamless or even partially seamless transition from an established coach. Georgia, Florida, Alabama, have all gone through the throes of the damned at various points.

Personally, I don't think UT is at a point to where we need to dive into those cold, cold waters just yet. Just my opinion.

Florida's transition from Spurrier to Zook to Meyer was pretty ugly. Seems like the big programs have to have some sort of sacrificial lamb to go through on the front end, but then again its not like Spurrier left on bad terms so whoever was going to replace him was almost surely going to face criticism. I think that's why, for example, Stoops wouldn't take the job.

Fulmer, if he goes, is not exactly going out as the saviour of UT football. Many people would welcome change, so I think whoever would come in at UT has a better chance to get fan support than did Zook.
 
that's the "dilemma". it's a matter of finding a coach who can get the needed recruits to UT and get them motivated to play. and to have the offensive and defensive schemes to compete better against the likes of Florida.

2006 21-20 L
2005 16-7 L
2004 30-28 W
2003 24-10 W
2002 30-13 L
2001 34-32 W

3-3 in last six meetings. Seems they are competing pretty well.
 
2006 21-20 L
2005 16-7 L
2004 30-28 W
2003 24-10 W
2002 30-13 L
2001 34-32 W

3-3 in last six meetings. Seems they are competing pretty well.

While I tend to agree with you, if you watched the game this past year they completely dominated us on both lines...
 
2006 21-20 L
2005 16-7 L
2004 30-28 W
2003 24-10 W
2002 30-13 L
2001 34-32 W

3-3 in last six meetings. Seems they are competing pretty well.

how great of you to pull out that stat. i intended it to mean the likes of the teams we must beat every year to win it all. i used florida cuz last time i checked they just picked up a sears trophy. i realize i assumed too much thinking IE95 would pick up on that. i would love to live in your optimistic, tennessee can do it all world, but i don't. don't even know how to get there.
 
While I tend to agree with you, if you watched the game this past year they completely dominated us on both lines...

I was at the game. Even if the score was 700-2 last year, we are 3-3 against FL the last 6 years. I fail to see how this is not being competitive.
 
how great of you to pull out that stat. i intended it to mean the likes of the teams we must beat every year to win it all. i used florida cuz last time i checked they just picked up a sears trophy. i realize i assumed too much thinking IE95 would pick up on that. i would love to live in your optimistic, tennessee can do it all world, but i don't. don't even know how to get there.

Maybe that's what you should have said in your post then.

Sorry for not realizing you didn't mean Florida when you said Florida.
 
I was at the game. Even if the score was 700-2 last year, we are 3-3 against FL the last 6 years. I fail to see how this is not being competitive.

I never said we weren't competitive but being at the game myself, as you were, will you not agree that they seemed to dominate the entire game and showed a gap in the type of athletes they and what we have?
 
I never said we weren't competitive but being at the game myself, as you were, will you not agree that they seemded to dominate the entire game and showed a gap in the type of athletes they and what we have?

not to mention the gap in coaching?
 
I never said we weren't competitive but being at the game myself, as you were, will you not agree that they seemded to dominate the entire game and showed a gap in the type of athletes they and what we have?

I disagree, the gap is not that big. We just could not run the ball. If we ran the ball for just 30 net yards the whole game, then we win the game. And people would not be saying they dominated us. Had they dominated us, a difference of 40 yards would not have been the key in the game.
 
I disagree, the gap is not that big. We just could not run the ball. If we ran the ball for just 30 net yards the whole game, then we win the game. And people would not be saying they dominated us. Had they dominated us, a difference of 40 yards would not have been the key in the game.

40 yards?

They ran for over 100 and Ainge was running for his life the entire game...
 
I never said we weren't competitive but being at the game myself, as you were, will you not agree that they seemded to dominate the entire game and showed a gap in the type of athletes they and what we have?

I didn't see a gap in atheletes per se. Statswise, they were moving up and down the field just not getting points. But the beauty in college football is the players change every year. Both teams will look very different on the field next year. We are definately competitive in the league despite the neysayers. And with Cut's goal being to score 30 pts/gm and Chief coaching the D - I see plenty of wins in our near future. :thumbsup:
 
I didn't see a gap in atheletes per se. Statswise, they were moving up and down the field just not getting points. But the beauty in college football is the players change every year. Both teams will look very different on the field next year. We are definately competitive in the league despite the neysayers. And with Cut's goal being to score 30 pts/gm and Chief coaching the D - I see plenty of wins in our near future. :thumbsup:

Thats all I was getting at....

I agree that things are looking wonderful for us...
 
40 yards?

They ran for over 100 and Ainge was running for his life the entire game...

I don't care how much they ran for. I am saying that we had -10 yards rushing. If we had 40 more, we would have controlled the TOP and kept their offense off of the field, therefore we would have won the game.
 
but we're not competitive with the teams that win titles every year. you do understand that right?
 
I don't care how much they ran for. I am saying that we had -10 yards rushing. If we had 30 more, we would have controlled the TOP and kept their offense off of the field, therefore we would have won the game.

Facts are we couldn't even run for 30 yards.....being a run oriented offense to only get that would still be horrible....

Look I am not trying to be negative by any means just throwing some things out there to discuss.....
 
but we're not competitive with the teams that win titles every year. you do understand that right?

No, I don't. Florida won the championship last year, we are competitive with them. The only teams that have won national titles since ours that we've played are Florida, Miami, and LSU. We are competitive with all these teams.
 
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