Steve Kiner discusses Tennessee's team leadership

[Titans Fan]

“It is a team sport and not an individual thing,” Kiner said. “The quarterback is usually one of the team leaders and there is usually someone on the defensive side of the ball, whether it is a defensive back, linebacker or defensive lineman. There is usually someone that sets the bar. They are not playing as a team."

Steve Kiner discusses Tennessee closing the gap with Alabama, Vols' team leadership

 

[JoAllan]

Wait......what......this team has leadership?

 

[vols1707]

I think Pruitt has questionable leadership at best.

Hard to step up and lead with the head guy yelling what everyone else is doing wrong. And he continues to roll with guys that aren’t getting it done at several positions.

Then he fires a coach, takes over his position group and that group gets worse instantly.

Pruitt’s credibility is very low right now. He is pointing fingers everywhere & it’s him that has to look in the damn mirror.

The kids see this everyday, Won’t have leaders step up for a coach that blames everyone else for problems.

 

[CAVPUT]

“It is a team sport and not an individual thing,” Kiner said. “The quarterback is usually one of the team leaders and there is usually someone on the defensive side of the ball, whether it is a defensive back, linebacker or defensive lineman. There is usually someone that sets the bar. They are not playing as a team."

Steve Kiner discusses Tennessee closing the gap with Alabama, Vols' team leadership

Loved watching him play. A vol great.

 

[ZZ13]

Archie who?

 

[orangefloyd]

I think Pruitt has questionable leadership at best.

Hard to step up and lead with the head guy yelling what everyone else is doing wrong. And he continues to roll with guys that aren’t getting it done at several positions.

Then he fires a coach, takes over his position group and that group gets worse instantly.

Pruitt’s credibility is very low right now. He is pointing fingers everywhere & it’s him that has to look in the damn mirror.

The kids see this everyday, Won’t have leaders step up for a coach that blames everyone else for problems.

Thats the way Fulmer did it.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

“It is a team sport and not an individual thing,” Kiner said. “The quarterback is usually one of the team leaders and there is usually someone on the defensive side of the ball, whether it is a defensive back, linebacker or defensive lineman. There is usually someone that sets the bar. They are not playing as a team."

Steve Kiner discusses Tennessee closing the gap with Alabama, Vols' team leadership

Total BS. Lipstick on a frog analysis. Coaches quit yesterday and Pruitt quit before that even by not playing another Qb in the Ga game. This effects the whole team’s morale.’

 

[The Original Fade]

Tennessee will not be a good football program for the foreseeable future. So far, Pruitt is no better than the 2 stiffs before him that we fired. When the admin gets serious about hiring a big time football coach, we will win again. Until then, nothing really changes

 

[TGVol]

Tennessee will not be a good football program for the foreseeable future. So far, Pruitt is no better than the 2 stiffs before him that we fired. When the admin gets serious about hiring a big time football coach, we will win again. Until then, nothing really changes

It's easy to make this generic statement that sounds good, but can you be specific and name a few big time coaches who would actually beat Saban? Because results on the field clearly show he is the best who ever coached college football (has not lost a game to anyone in SEC East for 10 years - even though we sucked over that period UF and UGA were pretty good at times could still not beat him). Actually, over the years he has been at Bama other than few games against Auburn and LSU Saban has pretty much dominated everyone (and Malzahn who is one of the few who actually does have some success against Saban is on the hot seat himself). Also, while I like Kiffin and Leach, looking at their records right now it does not seem they would be any more successful (Kiffin did have a good game against Bama but overall Ole Miss is even worse than us). And UK which seemed to be on the rise just lost to Mizzou. Also, the one big time hire in the SEC (NC winning coach now at A&M) has also been dominated by Saban. You even have coaches with great NFL credentials who have not been successful in college football (see Michigan as perfect example, and they don't even play the tough SEC schedule).

 

[landscapingvol]

It's easy to make this generic statement that sounds good, but can you be specific and name a few big time coaches who would actually beat Saban? Because results on the field clearly show he is the best who ever coached college football (has not lost a game to anyone in SEC East for 10 years - even though we sucked over that period UF and UGA were pretty good at times could still not beat him). Actually, over the years he has been at Bama other than few games against Auburn and LSU Saban has pretty much dominated everyone (and Malzahn who is one of the few who actually does have some success against Saban is on the hot seat himself). Also, while I like Kiffin and Leach, looking at their records right now it does not seem they would be any more successful (Kiffin did have a good game against Bama but overall Ole Miss is even worse than us). And UK which seemed to be on the rise just lost to Mizzou. Also, the one big time hire in the SEC (NC winning coach now at A&M) has also been dominated by Saban. You even have coaches with great NFL credentials who have not been successful in college football (see Michigan as perfect example, and they don't even play the tough SEC schedule).

No one, or at least I am no talking about beating Saban, but there have been several losses in Pruitt’s short tenure to teams that aren’t in the same stratosphere as Bama or Georgia. He is a defensive minded coach and for the vast majority of the time against a team UT should be able to at least compete against hasn’t been able to even slow down the opponent.

 

[West Vol]

It's easy to make this generic statement that sounds good, but can you be specific and name a few big time coaches who would actually beat Saban? Because results on the field clearly show he is the best who ever coached college football (has not lost a game to anyone in SEC East for 10 years - even though we sucked over that period UF and UGA were pretty good at times could still not beat him). Actually, over the years he has been at Bama other than few games against Auburn and LSU Saban has pretty much dominated everyone (and Malzahn who is one of the few who actually does have some success against Saban is on the hot seat himself). Also, while I like Kiffin and Leach, looking at their records right now it does not seem they would be any more successful (Kiffin did have a good game against Bama but overall Ole Miss is even worse than us). And UK which seemed to be on the rise just lost to Mizzou. Also, the one big time hire in the SEC (NC winning coach now at A&M) has also been dominated by Saban. You even have coaches with great NFL credentials who have not been successful in college football (see Michigan as perfect example, and they don't even play the tough SEC schedule).

Every major SEC program has managed to beat Saban since he’s been at Bama except us.

And anyway, that’s so far away right now as to be ridiculous to even discuss. We are losing home games to Georgia State and Kentucky.

 

[West Vol]

Every major SEC program has managed to beat Saban since he’s been at Bama except us.

And anyway, that’s so far away right now as to be ridiculous to even discuss. We are losing home games to Georgia State and Kentucky.

LSU and Auburn have actually both beaten Saban with 2 different head coaches.

 

[TGVol]

Every major SEC program has managed to beat Saban since he’s been at Bama except us.

And anyway, that’s so far away right now as to be ridiculous to even discuss. We are losing home games to Georgia State and Kentucky.

So please name a few big time coaches (who are not retired) who you are pretty sure would beat Saban.

 

[USMC-TNVOL]

“You’ve got to find a quarterback because that’s the position that makes everybody around the rest of the field, offense, defense, special teams - better or worse,” Tebow said. “Right now, from the second to the fourth quarter last week, they were demoralized. That Tennessee team couldn’t have played worse because of how the quarterback position handled that game. You can find another guy that can make everybody play better and give yourself a shot in the big game. Right now, in the big game, they haven’t had a shot. That’s why they have to make a change.” - Tebow

 

[wmcovol]

Saban record vs Tennessee is 16-1. Even Vanderbilt beat Bear once.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Tennessee will not be a good football program for the foreseeable future. So far, Pruitt is no better than the 2 stiffs before him that we fired. When the admin gets serious about hiring a big time football coach, we will win again. Until then, nothing really changes

We might as well kept Butch and saved money. Same BS.

 

[TGVol]

“You’ve got to find a quarterback because that’s the position that makes everybody around the rest of the field, offense, defense, special teams - better or worse,” Tebow said. “Right now, from the second to the fourth quarter last week, they were demoralized. That Tennessee team couldn’t have played worse because of how the quarterback position handled that game. You can find another guy that can make everybody play better and give yourself a shot in the big game. Right now, in the big game, they haven’t had a shot. That’s why they have to make a change.” - Tebow

So Tebow's analysis was wrong, at least as far as Bama game goes because JG actually played well yesterday but our defense still could not stop anything Bama did.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

“You’ve got to find a quarterback because that’s the position that makes everybody around the rest of the field, offense, defense, special teams - better or worse,” Tebow said. “Right now, from the second to the fourth quarter last week, they were demoralized. That Tennessee team couldn’t have played worse because of how the quarterback position handled that game. You can find another guy that can make everybody play better and give yourself a shot in the big game. Right now, in the big game, they haven’t had a shot. That’s why they have to make a change.” - Tebow

They have to open up that playbook with a new Qb. They have to learn to tackle and prevent yards after 1st contact. They have to know coverage responsibilities. All this is on the coaching.

 

[USMC-TNVOL]

So Tebow's analysis was wrong, at least as far as Bama game goes because JG actually played well yesterday but our defense still could not stop anything Bama did.

He didn’t turn the ball over and made 2-3 good throws. That’s it. Your definition of “well” must be lowered for JG.

 

[West Vol]

So please name a few big time coaches (who are not retired) who you are pretty sure would beat Saban.

Freeze has already done it twice. Malzahn could be available soon.

There are plenty of lesser know guys out there. We have done an astonishingly bad job of identifying them.

 

[The Original Fade]

It's easy to make this generic statement that sounds good, but can you be specific and name a few big time coaches who would actually beat Saban? Because results on the field clearly show he is the best who ever coached college football (has not lost a game to anyone in SEC East for 10 years - even though we sucked over that period UF and UGA were pretty good at times could still not beat him). Actually, over the years he has been at Bama other than few games against Auburn and LSU Saban has pretty much dominated everyone (and Malzahn who is one of the few who actually does have some success against Saban is on the hot seat himself). Also, while I like Kiffin and Leach, looking at their records right now it does not seem they would be any more successful (Kiffin did have a good game against Bama but overall Ole Miss is even worse than us). And UK which seemed to be on the rise just lost to Mizzou. Also, the one big time hire in the SEC (NC winning coach now at A&M) has also been dominated by Saban. You even have coaches with great NFL credentials who have not been successful in college football (see Michigan as perfect example, and they don't even play the tough SEC schedule).

I sure wish not beating Saban was our only problem. How about even being COMPETITIVE with Kentucky at home? The same Kentucky team that Mizzou handled yesterday. How about not being run out of the gym by Georgia? How about just playing inspired football period?

 

[USMC-TNVOL]

They have to open up that playbook with a new Qb. They have to learn to tackle and prevent yards after 1st contact. They have to know coverage responsibilities. All this is on the coaching.

Not disagreeing but a leader or even just a good player at this point would do wonders for this team. I think they’re steadily losing their fight as they keep seeing JG go in and hindering the offense. They’re not going to play as tough when they already have that in the back of their mind. A good QB can bring energy.

 

[West Vol]

Not disagreeing but a leader or even just a good player at this point would do wonders for this team. I think they’re steadily losing their fight as they keep seeing JG go in and hindering the offense. They’re not going to play as tough when they already have that in the back of their mind. A good QB can bring energy.

Dang. If only there was some way to have brought in a good quarterback. Too bad the lotto just randomly assigned us Keller Chryst and JT Shrout types.

 

[USMC-TNVOL]

Dang. If only there was some way to have brought in a good quarterback. Too bad the lotto just randomly assigned us Keller Chryst and JT Shrout types.

Maurer or Bailey are available.

 

[TGVol]

He didn’t turn the ball over and made 2-3 good throws. That’s it. Your definition of “well” must be lowered for JG.

JG did what they asked him to do yesterday - to have a clean game and given what happened recently that was reasonable ask. If the defense did not play so poorely we also would have had more posessions and he probably could have done more. One more issue (which is on coaches for sure) is that Palmer is the only legit receiver on this team - all the other upper classmen and simply over their head playing aginst this type of competition - makes it much harder for QB when you only have one option (since we also don't use TE's at all in passing game). I think the focus right now needs to be getting as many of the freshman receivers ready to play vs Arky, and to fix the defense in terms of stopping big plays (those two things are at least as important as debate about who should be the QB going forward).