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Rudy123 said:
Suppose I am a successful coach from Western Kentucky University. Tennessee is interested in hiring me. The first thing I do is call Martin and see what he says about the job.

How is Hart to work for? Are all of the essentials provided to you to create a successful program? What is the fan base like? How is local recruiting like? Will the boosters let you use their plane on occasion?

Then I more than likely end up NOT being interested in the Tennessee job.
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How do you know its bad to work for Hart? What essentials are not provided? Fan base is like every fan base. Does WKU have any boosters with planes?
 
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99gator said:
let me expand on what i was thinking.

yes, marquette and tennessee are both not blue bloods.

however, there are more than two categories of basketball jobs beyond (a) blue bloods and (b) everyone else.

marquette, historically, has been a very successful basketball program. they just don't have the same money to throw around.

tennessee can spend the money if they choose to.
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This.
 
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Granted, Marquette, while having a much better tournament record (see above posts) than Tennessee is also in the middle of the pack of "stepping stone" schools as far as W/L record goes. In fact, the VOLS have a tad more wins but Marquette has a tad better winning percentage. But we're in the SEC, you know, that poor mouthed round ball conference with two teams in the Final Four.

Through the 2012-2013 season:

Rank===Team===Wins===Losses===Win%

41---Tennessee---1528-------972------0.611

43--- Marquette---1520-------922-----0.622

Marquette, while not a true blueblood school, is willing to pay to get there.

As of Dec, 2013:

Buzz Williams salary was 9th in the nation and received $2,800,000 per year.
Cuonzo Martin with 3 NCAA tourney wins seems to have been the better monetary deal for Tennessee this year at $1,300,000.

On the edit above in red- it's sad to be gettin where you think you typed something but didn't so what remains makes no sense.:crazy:

I may indeed get drunk tonight:p ... but I won't be hittin nothin.
 
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Tennessee payed ZO less than half of what Buzz was getting at Marquette. They have the dollars and are willing to put them out there. I just looked at a Marquette fan site and Zo is not the first choice of a lot of their fans.

That said, their first choice turned them down. There's some possibility Zo will be Marquette's Butch Jones.
 
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gnm53108 said:
Have to agree that "stepping stone" is what we are right now.

Keep hoping that eventually we'll get someone in admin that'll change that.
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we had one, but he turned out he was a liar....I hope Coach Martin stays, by all accounts man of character. A sweet 16 is reason to keep him around.....Three years is a short time to turn around the cess pool that he inherited
 
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99gator said:
i know that no one wants to hear this, but from a historical perspective, tennessee basketball doesn't belong in the same conversation as marquette basketball.
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This. Marquette is absolutely not a stepping stone of any sort.
 
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govols120 said:
This. Marquette is absolutely not a stepping stone of any sort.
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Duke, Kansas, Kentucky among nation's best college basketball programs | One And One - SI.com

Per Sports Illustrated's best current programs, Marquette is not in the Top 20 of CBB's best programs and most sites I've seen list the top 5 or 10 as the 'Bluebloods'.
Clicking on the links to the also rans, SI has Marquette and Tennessee in that group of about 10. Marquette is a higher than Tennessee in respect and performance but they are NOT a blueblood school.

If you're not a Blue blood, .. Like I said- you are stepping stones.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
Granted, Marquette, while having a much better tournament record (see above posts) than Tennessee is also in the middle of the pack of "stepping stone" schools as far as W/L record goes. In fact, the VOLS have a tad more wins but Marquette has a tad better winning percentage. But we're in the SEC, you know, that poor mouthed round ball conference with two teams in the Final Four.

Through the 2012-2013 season:

Rank===Team===Wins===Losses===Win%

41---Tennessee---1528-------972------0.611

43--- Marquette---1520-------922-----0.622

Marquette, while not a true blueblood school, is willing to pay to get there.

As of Dec, 2013:

B.
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Are you seriously still suggesting that UT and Marquette belong in the same sentence as far as program ranking? There's the top, then there's the Marquette's, then theres the UT's, then there's miles of garbage. UT isnt on the level of the Marquette program and never has been, not sure why you are still comparing the two or even suggesting that they are close as far as relevancy.
 
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99gator said:
i know that no one wants to hear this, but from a historical perspective, tennessee basketball doesn't belong in the same conversation as marquette basketball.
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Why don't you crawl back in your cesspool swamp. Tennessee's alltime record against your gators is 72-52.

It's only recently, as a matter of fact only since Donovan that Florida was even relevant in the SEC!!
 
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Let me add one more thing Tennessee is 3-4 against Marquette all time.

gator you don't know what you are talking about!!
 
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99gator said:
what did tennessee do to get kevin o'neil away from marquette at that time?
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I was about to ask the same thing. I had forgotten that's where he came from.

Knowing O'Neil he probably was ticked at someone and ready to leave. Which is how he left UT.
 
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99gator said:
i know that no one wants to hear this, but from a historical perspective, tennessee basketball doesn't belong in the same conversation as marquette basketball.
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From a historical perspective Florida doesn't either. But they don't have an athletic department that accepts mediocrity do they?
 
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