Steam drops a nuke on consoles, and OS's, the Machine, the Controller, The Frame (VR). Game Over.

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If your Playstation management, Xbox Management, and to some dergree albeit smaller cuirrently Microsoft Windows management, deffinately if your Meta Management this is a nuclear bomb...... Gabe just causally walked up to your table unzipped and slapped your companies layoffs on the table....and did it with no pre fanfare...just a "oh by the way".

The most hilarious part is the VR (FRAME) it looks to blow the quest out of the water granted at a higher price point (though that also has some advantages; less annoying kids in lobbies) Understand how many thousands of employees work for META? they've invested what 17 BILLION???????? And here comes a company with like 350 employees? and I dunno how much they spent but it wasn't half of what Meta has spent and their about to eat their lunch in VR wars. Quest 3 better invent a 6G dongle asap, and learn a better system then virtual desktop to connect to PC games or they are toast.

If you have a gaming PC the MACHINE will not impress you (I mean it's the equiv of maybe a RTX 3060 mobile maybe but because propreitary tweaks for steam OS maybe a 30% boost? but it's about to let console people in at a great entry price to joining the PC Gameing Master Race(estimates 400 for 512mb, and 600-700 for 2TB and controller bundle) Huge bonus to escape Windows it's bloatware, and spyware, and tell copilot to sod off. Could be a console killer for sure when you consider 5-10 dollar steam sale prices vs $60 games for PS5 and Xbox. Then of course there's the fact that being at it's heart a PC, unlike consoles you should be able to mod, emulate (SWITCH, PS4, Xbox x etc), plunder and pirate your scurvy little hearts out..... and some people might actually use it for apps....it's Linux ARCH without installation headaches at it's heart, and proton built in to run windows exe's......so video editing, cloud apps, taxes etc...all not a problem.

Also interested to see price on controller hopefully this one works better then the first steam controller.... pads for mouse/analog support means pretty much any PC game ever made is playable console style.

Will be awhile for it to sink in what just happened, but if PS5 was celebrating winning over Xbox lately they just got a massive reality check.
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You mean like they did 10 years ago with this? You need to relax. Lol! This thing is going to be SUPER niche, and its only going to be available through Valve, just like the Steamdeck. Spec wise, its not even that impressive and if you game on Steam, chances are you already have a more impressive setup than what this will offer. I dont think Sony and Nintendo are losing sleep.
 
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I think, with its cost most likely around 500, PS6 and New XBox will have to drop prices. For a gaming pc made by a big corporation, and only costing a PS5, that'll shred the market of gaming by lowering it. Silksong proved that the market will trend cheaper and cheaper, which is awesome!
 
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I think, with its cost most likely around 500, PS6 and New XBox will have to drop prices. For a gaming pc made by a big corporation, and only costing a PS5, that'll shred the market of gaming by lowering it. Silksong proved that the market will trend cheaper and cheaper, which is awesome!
It wont shred anything. They're only selling it on Valve's website. It will be a niche product, just like the Steamdeck. The average consumer will have no clue of the existence of this product. The Steamdeck has been out 3 years and has managed to only sell about 6 million units. That is not even a dent in the market. Until Valve starts putting these in Wal Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc and markets the crap out of it, its not a market disruptor by any stretch.
 
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If the lower SKU comes in at under $600, or at $650 with Half Life 3 packaged in, Valve might have something here. I'd buy one. But if you are at/over $700 you now have a box that's as much or more than a PS5 Pro and has less power than a regular PS5. You aren't going to convert any console folks that way. You can talk about Steam OS all you want, console gamers don't care if it outperforms Windows and existing PC gamers aren't going to be impressed by the specs on this thing.
 
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If the lower SKU comes in at under $600, or at $650 with Half Life 3 packaged in, Valve might have something here. I'd buy one. But if you are at/over $700 you now have a box that's as much or more than a PS5 Pro and has less power than a regular PS5. You aren't going to convert any console folks that way. You can talk about Steam OS all you want, console gamers don't care if it outperforms Windows and existing PC gamers aren't going to be impressed by the specs on this thing.
This (except even with the package, I don't think they'd get many converts).
 
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This (except even with the package, I don't think they'd get many converts).
I think they can fill the void xbox is leaving. Microsoft seems bent on a high dollar premium machine next gen. The current gen Xbox consoles have sold like 30 million units. That's not great numbers for Sony or Microsoft. But half that would be huge numbers for Valve. The Deck has sold like 4 million units.

With no cut going to retailers by selling direct, and then getting a cut of everything sold on Steam, they'd be printing money. Especially since they don't spend much on developing the games.
 
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I think they can fill the void xbox is leaving. Microsoft seems bent on a high dollar premium machine next gen. The current gen Xbox consoles have sold like 30 million units. That's not great numbers for Sony or Microsoft. But half that would be huge numbers for Valve. The Deck has sold like 4 million units.

With no cut going to retailers by selling direct, and then getting a cut of everything sold on Steam, they'd be printing money. Especially since they don't spend much on developing the games.
Possibly, But I think more will defect from Xbox to Playstation. Especially considering Xbox games are now on Playstation.

Price will be a huge factor though IMO.
 
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Possibly, But I think more will defect from Xbox to Playstation. Especially considering Xbox games are now on Playstation.

Price will be a huge factor though IMO.
I have both right now an barely play my Playstation.

Steam's big advantages are the cavernous catalog, the versatile of Steam OS and free online play. They can absolutely carve out a peice of the market. But they are going to have to get their install base from console players.

So you're right, price is the key factor. But don't underestimate a "Killer App". Folks been wanting Half Life 3 for a long time and that fandom is rabid. It's the same thing Nintendo did with Mario Cart World.
 
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I have both right now an barely play my Playstation.

Steam's big advantages are the cavernous catalog, the versatile of Steam OS and free online play. They can absolutely carve out a peice of the market. But they are going to have to get their install base from console players.

So you're right, price is the key factor. But don't underestimate a "Killer App". Folks been wanting Half Life 3 for a long time and that fandom is rabid. It's the same thing Nintendo did with Mario Cart World.
I have both as well, and same lol.

The kids play the PS5 more and that’s not saying much because they have their own Series S
 
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I have both as well, and same lol.

The kids play the PS5 more and that’s not saying much because they have their own Series S
I'm mostly a single player guy and on Playstation, you better like Soulslike games if you want to be that. It gets old.

This generation has been all about Gamepass fir me. But they are about to raise the price so high it's not worth it.
 
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