State by State Recruiting Rankings 2014

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What if we look at the states and rank their talent levels for football prospects numerically? Where would Tennessee rank, and what does that mean for us going forward?

I used the Rivals points system to rank the top 35 states 2012-2014. My methods:

I gave each state points for the top 50 recruits each year and averaged the annual scores. I think this gives a pretty good picture of the talent differentials state to state, and taking a 3-year period into account smoothes out any 1-year anomalies.

Note: these ranks include JUCO players as well, and several states benefit from that addition

I also did this for 2011-2013 here:

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-recruiting/210874-state-recruiting-rankings.html

(Rivals Rating = Points)

6.1 = 150 points
6.0 = 135 points
5.9 = 120 points
5.8 = 105 points
5.7 = 90 points
5.6 = 75 points
5.5 = 60 points
5.4 = 45 points
5.3 = 30 points
5.2 = 15 points

Here are the ranks:

2014 Rank 1. State = 3yr AVG (Top 50 Recruits per State Rated Each Year)
1. Florida 5755
2. California 5603
3. Texas 5443
4. Georgia 5175
5. Ohio 4710
6. Virginia 4295
7. Louisiana 4150
8. Alabama 3960
9. Mississippi 3945
10. North Carolina 3930
11. Illinois 3765
12. Arizona 3730
13. Pennsylvania 3645
14. New Jersey 3425
15. Michigan 3285
16. Maryland 3250
17. Kansas 3150
18. Tennessee 3070
19. South Carolina 2730
20. Oklahoma 2575
21. New York 2505
22. Indiana 2460
23. Missouri 2100
24. Washington 2055
25. Utah 1770
26. Iowa 1735
27. Arkansas 1495
28. Kentucky 1315
29. Colorado 1240
30. Massachusetts 1215
31. Wisconsin 1210
32. Oregon 1125
33. Nevada 775
33. Minnesota 775
35. Connecticut 695

Tennessee as state did not move up from the previous ranking, but did improve over the 2011-2013 ranking. With upcoming strong classes it is quite possible that our state will move into the top 15 of state recruiting grounds in the next few years.

The Midwest seems to be strengthening somewhat as Iowa, Illinois and Missouri showed 3 of the 4 largest numeric improvements over the previous rankings.

The Pacific Northwest and Mountain West had a really down year as big drops were seen in Nevada, Colorado, Oregon, Washington and Utah.

In the SEC, Arkansas and South Carolina were down significantly. Only Missouri, Georgia and Tennessee showed significant growth.

Whether all of this represents new trends, or just short-term anomalies, is something to be watched.

I feel comfortable in saying that Tennessee can now rely significantly on home-grown talent to build a winning program for the first time since perhaps the Nixon administration.
 
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Since Butch is recruiting more players from the state and drawing attention, the rating services will be more generous with the stars. They know he gets it
 
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Christ Almighty!!!!

1. Own Tennessee, no freakin exceptions!! No more of this Notre Dame/Vandy crap.
2. Get the best from Virginia, North Carolina, and Mississippi. They're right freakin here!
3. Steal a couple here and there from Georgia, Alabama, and California.

That's just about 25 great recruits a year right there. And that doesn't even include Florida! You get a great prospect or two from there each year along with maybe a great kid from Maryland/D.C. and we'll continue to be in business.

Go Vols!! In Butch we freakin' Trust!!
 
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Rifleman said:
What if we look at the states and rank their talent levels for football prospects numerically? Where would Tennessee rank, and what does that mean for us going forward?

I used the Rivals points system to rank the top 35 states 2012-2014. My methods:

I gave each state points for the top 50 recruits each year and averaged the annual scores. I think this gives a pretty good picture of the talent differentials state to state, and taking a 3-year period into account smoothes out any 1-year anomalies.

Note: these ranks include JUCO players as well, and several states benefit from that addition

I also did this for 2011-2013 here:

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-recruiting/210874-state-recruiting-rankings.html

(Rivals Rating = Points)

6.1 = 150 points
6.0 = 135 points
5.9 = 120 points
5.8 = 105 points
5.7 = 90 points
5.6 = 75 points
5.5 = 60 points
5.4 = 45 points
5.3 = 30 points
5.2 = 15 points

Here are the ranks:

2014 Rank 1. State = 3yr AVG (Top 50 Recruits per State Rated Each Year)
1. Florida 5755
2. California 5603
3. Texas 5443
4. Georgia 5175
5. Ohio 4710
6. Virginia 4295
7. Louisiana 4150
8. Alabama 3960
9. Mississippi 3945
10. North Carolina 3930
11. Illinois 3765
12. Arizona 3730
13. Pennsylvania 3645
14. New Jersey 3425
15. Michigan 3285
16. Maryland 3250
17. Kansas 3150
18. Tennessee 3070
19. South Carolina 2730
20. Oklahoma 2575
21. New York 2505
22. Indiana 2460
23. Missouri 2100
24. Washington 2055
25. Utah 1770
26. Iowa 1735
27. Arkansas 1495
28. Kentucky 1315
29. Colorado 1240
30. Massachusetts 1215
31. Wisconsin 1210
32. Oregon 1125
33. Nevada 775
33. Minnesota 775
35. Connecticut 695

Tennessee as state did not move up from the previous ranking, but did improve over the 2011-2013 ranking. With upcoming strong classes it is quite possible that our state will move into the top 15 of state recruiting grounds in the next few years.

The Midwest seems to be strengthening somewhat as Iowa, Illinois and Missouri showed 3 of the 4 largest numeric improvements over the previous rankings.

The Pacific Northwest and Mountain West had a really down year as big drops were seen in Nevada, Colorado, Oregon, Washington and Utah.

In the SEC, Arkansas and South Carolina were down significantly. Only Missouri, Georgia and Tennessee showed significant growth.

Whether all of this represents new trends, or just short-term anomalies, is something to be watched.

I feel comfortable in saying that Tennessee can now rely significantly on home-grown talent to build a winning program for the first time since perhaps the Nixon administration.
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I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Kansas- includes Junior College players. Some of the other states like Mississippi might as well.
 
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We need to own Virginia & North Carolina. Those 2 states have to be major points of emphasis for us.

Tennessee
Atlanta
Virginia
Carolinas

That should be our primary recruiting grounds
 
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Nice work, OP. Thanks for putting this together. I was really surprised to see NJ ahead of TN, and as high as they were in general. I don't recall seeing very many prospects from NJ.
 
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Really good work, OP. I believe TN will continue to move up the charts due to strongly increasing population and job growth primarily in central TN among other parts of the state. As previously stated own TN, be strong in the Carolinas and GA. Maintain a good presence in FL, OH, VA. Cherry pick everything else.
 
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Where do all those Viginia kids go? Its not like Tech or UVA are pulling top classes on the reg.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Surprised Scar is that low and Illinois is that high.
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As an Illinois guy, I can say that its no surprise at all. Illinois has very good football. Its just that the talent does not go to the UofI. Heck, check the rosters at Notre Dame, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, even Florida. They all have starters and stars from Illinois. If they could keep the top guys in state, they would be a top 15 team every year. The same with Hoops.
 
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maxxx said:
As an Illinois guy, I can say that its no surprise at all. Illinois has very good football. Its just that the talent does not go to the UofI. Heck, check the rosters at Notre Dame, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, even Florida. They all have starters and stars from Illinois. If they could keep the top guys in state, they would be a top 15 team every year. The same with Hoops.
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We snagged a pair of 4* guys. Talent in IL is pretty good. Definitely good compared to most surrounding states.
 
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vavolunteer said:
Christ Almighty!!!!

1. Own Tennessee, no freakin exceptions!! No more of this Notre Dame/Vandy crap.
2. Get the best from Virginia, North Carolina, and Mississippi. They're right freakin here!
3. Steal a couple here and there from Georgia, Alabama, and California.

That's just about 25 great recruits a year right there. And that doesn't even include Florida! You get a great prospect or two from there each year along with maybe a great kid from Maryland/D.C. and we'll continue to be in business.

Go Vols!! In Butch we freakin' Trust!!
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steal one from nm ca tx or fl in 2015. the one being a qb.
 
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vavolunteer said:
Christ Almighty!!!!

1. Own Tennessee, no freakin exceptions!! No more of this Notre Dame/Vandy crap.
2. Get the best from Virginia, North Carolina, and Mississippi. They're right freakin here!
3. Steal a couple here and there from Georgia, Alabama, and California.

That's just about 25 great recruits a year right there. And that doesn't even include Florida! You get a great prospect or two from there each year along with maybe a great kid from Maryland/D.C. and we'll continue to be in business.

Go Vols!! In Butch we freakin' Trust!!
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Don't you think Georgia should have been in line 2, and Mississippi in line 3?
 
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I you look at it per capita, Georgia is blowing everyone away.

Thank god they still have Richt.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I you look at it per capita, Georgia is blowing everyone away.

Thank god they still have Richt.
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That is a good point. Atlanta and vicinity have the highest density of talent near Knoxville. Then Nashville, and as the crow flies, North Carolina and South Carolina.

When you combine that with a group of coaches that can go and get a kids out of Florida, Ohio, Virginia, and Illinois, and have the kind of Juco success we had this year . . . well, we aren't going to lose because of inferior talent any more.
 
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i live in maryland and i have no idea how it is that high. but as long as we keep getting who we want, i can't complain
 
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TNnative said:
Don't you think Georgia should have been in line 2, and Mississippi in line 3?
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Line 2 were states that were rated highly but are not known as powerhouse recruiting states. These are states we can own because no one else is putting in the effort to monopolize them.

Line 3 were states that are known to be recruiting meccas. Lots of schools are taking shots at these kids. Getting them out of the state is tough because of the success of in-state programs (except for Georgia, Richt seems to lose a ton of great talent every year). :thumbsup:
 
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vavolunteer said:
Christ Almighty!!!!

1. Own Tennessee, no freakin exceptions!! No more of this Notre Dame/Vandy crap.
2. Get the best from Virginia, North Carolina, and Mississippi. They're right freakin here!
3. Steal a couple here and there from Georgia, Alabama, and California.

That's just about 25 great recruits a year right there. And that doesn't even include Florida! You get a great prospect or two from there each year along with maybe a great kid from Maryland/D.C. and we'll continue to be in business.

Go Vols!! In Butch we freakin' Trust!!
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Agree on all 4 of your points
 
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85SugarVol said:
We need to own Virginia & North Carolina. Those 2 states have to be major points of emphasis for us.

Tennessee
Atlanta
Virginia
Carolinas

That should be our primary recruiting grounds
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Agreed. But wr have beast recruiters and we are nationwide


Add in:
some florida
some north (ohio, etc)
some west (Cali, etc)
 
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