Starting QB Faizon Brandon (Fr)

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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I meant the era of 5-stars sitting and waiting their turn. I never said busts would stop happening. College is now like the NFL and the more money you make the more impact you better make on the field. Michigan for example didn't pay Bryce Underwood $3 mil/yr as a true freshman to sit on the bench.
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Just because he might not start his first year does not make him a bust. Your take is nonsense. GBO
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I meant the era of 5-stars sitting and waiting their turn. I never said busts would stop happening. College is now like the NFL and the more money you make the more impact you better make on the field. Michigan for example didn't pay Bryce Underwood $3 mil/yr as a true freshman to sit on the bench.
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The three current Heisman leaders:
Mendoza
Sayin
Reed

All of them redshirted. I suppose they were busts, right?
 
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aRmo said:
The only way he starts is if G-Mac gets hurt.
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He’s better than GMAC.
And If Faizon were to ditch Tennessee in the 11th hour and sign with Ohio State, I’d still be confident in GMAC as our starting QB.

But he’s not Faizon Brandon.
There hasn’t been a QB come out of HS as good as him in 20 years…

Go Vols
 
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jcvols24 said:
It's been a while so maybe my memory is off, but didn't you praise Guarantano as the next coming of Cam Newton?
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Hell no!

I was getting burned because I was one of the FIRST to criticize him. I said he could only throw at one speed before he even stepped foot on campus. People were jumping all over me for it.

Same things with Cam Seldon and me questioning his low productivity. AND here we are 3 1/2 years later.


I also said Marcel Reed was legit

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve been right, but all people want to do is make up CRAP like this that didn’t even happen. I NEVER THOUGHT JG was going to be any good.
 
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theFallGuy said:
Never change VN.

Game 2 of him struggling ya'll will be calling him a bust and hollering to start the backup qb on the bench.
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That’s literally never happened.
As in- us asking to bench a true freshman QB after his second start.
 
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Peradox1K said:
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Let him develop and THEN let him play if it gets next this season
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If he is just as good as the others we have at QB, has the size to compete vs SEC defenses, Then roll w/ him.

But, big if. Idk if he’s a broomstick or if he has the statute and strength to play his freshman year. But if he does and is beyond his yrs seeing the field and arm strength, the start him. Experience is best way to learn and getting better.


Look at Tua @ Bama. He was a freshman who entered the 2nd half of the most important game of any college QB’s life.

But something tells me he won’t be ready as a 18 yr idk freshman.
 
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LittleVol said:
Offensively this has been a pretty exciting year. Nico in 2024 added a nice run element. Okay pass element.
Joey in 2025 has been those in reverse. 3,000 yards and almost 30 TDs with two more games to play.

If Faizon is the best option, he will have
Veteran Oline.
Veteran WRs
Veteran RBs
Year 4 Ethan Davis and year 2 of the Dorsealer and Brame.

And I said he was good enough a HS junior to be the starting QB at Tennessee.
Hype. All Hype for the moment.

But what about defense? Some nice pieces, but they really need the portal at DT and safety IMO.

* Been watching Faizon for 2 years now. He controls the flow of the game. Yes he can pass for 350 and 4 TDs. Or he can pass for 200 1 TD and rush for 100 yards and 3 TDs on the ground while controlling the clock and the tempo of the game. He has this maturity right now.

We can go to the playoffs with him being-a true freshman as our starting QB.
He’s too good.
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You do know the difference between the SEC and High School?
 
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We had the Great Peyton Manning for 4 years.
Casey Clausen for 4 years.
Josh Dobbs for 4 awesome years.
All played as TRUE FRESHMAN.

It’s time we revisit that.
Yeah I want Faizon Brandon to win
- 50 games in his college career. Throw for 14,000 yards and rush for 2,000 and while accounting for 150 TDS


Time to let the big boys that we pay the big bucks -PLAY!
 
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temptn said:
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You heard it here first, G-Mac will not start next year.
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GMAC isn’t some scrub. He’s got all the tools. But Brandon is a winner. He’s got better tools and he’s used to leading and winning.

Wouldn’t mind seeing a little 2 QB system next year so GMAC can get some film on himself.
 
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Novel concept…

None of us know who will be the starting QB next year. We don’t know how much weight GMac will gain or how much he will improve over the offseason or, hell, how good he is right now.

We don’t know how ready Faizon will be as a true freshman, how he will adapt to SEC speed, concepts, process, etc.

There will be a competition in the spring and fall to determine all of that. We don’t know. Heupel doesn’t know. It’s ridiculous to act like we know who will be the starting QB in 2026. Or who SHOULD be the starting QB in 2026. Because we have no idea.

We know we have 2 guys with talent who will compete.
 
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LittleVol said:
I know the 3 best QBs in Tennessee history ALL PLAYED AS FRESHMAN.

Did you know about that??

It’s a team sport and he’ll be surrounded by veterans. Have a little faith.
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Manning did. Shuler didn’t. Holloway didn’t. Hooker didn’t.

I’m not sure who you are calling the 3 best. But the 2 Heisman runners up are two of them. Hooker is probably the 3rd.

Nonetheless, when freshmen have started, we’ve have down years. Manning’s 1994 team went 8-4. Same for Clausen’s 2000 team. Bray’s 2010 team was 6-7. Ainge was the most successful at 10-3 in 2004.
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
Just because he might not start his first year does not make him a bust. Your take is nonsense. GBO
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Unless there's a heisman candidate ahead of him, when you're paying elite money he would be a bust if he doesn't play right away. Just look at Arch Manning and Nico. Both couldn't start year 1 and we've seen neither live up to that 5 star rating.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The three current Heisman leaders:
Mendoza
Sayin
Reed

All of them redshirted. I suppose they were busts, right?
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Mendoza was not highly recruited. Reed was a 4-star. Sayin was originally committed to Alabama but flipped late after Saban retired.

Lower rated guys redshirting and developing is still a given. I was only referring to the highly ranked 5-star type QB that get paid big money year 1. If you're paying a freshman 2-3 million a year then he better play immediately.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Unless there's a heisman candidate ahead of him, when you're paying elite money he would be a bust if he doesn't play right away. Just look at Arch Manning and Nico. Both couldn't start year 1 and we've seen neither live up to that 5 star rating.
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Now do Ty Simpson.

Plenty of 5* QBs don’t start as true freshmen and end up doing great.
 
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LittleVol said:
We had the Great Peyton Manning for 4 years.
Casey Clausen for 4 years.
Josh Dobbs for 4 awesome years.
All played as TRUE FRESHMAN.

It’s time we revisit that.
Yeah I want Faizon Brandon to win
- 50 games in his college career. Throw for 14,000 yards and rush for 2,000 and while accounting for 150 TDS


Time to let the big boys that we pay the big bucks -PLAY!
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Posted before I saw this post. Assume you’re saying Manning, Clausen, and Dobbs are the 3 greatest QBs in UT history.

A) they’re not.
B ) The teams were not successful in the years those 3 started as freshmen…and were largely handcuffed offensively.
C) They started because of injury to or ineptitude by the QBs in front of them.

Manning started because Colquitt was lost for the season, then Helton got hurt. Manning was the 3rd option. Colquitt going down crippled that team, which would’ve competed for an SEC and NC with him at QB. Instead, they finished 8-4 because they were limited by a true freshman at QB.

Clausen started midway through the season after Joey Matthews and AJ Suggs couldn’t get the job done. That team went 8-4, which was a down year back then.

Dobbs started 2 games (I think?) as a freshman because Worley, Peterman, and Ferguson ALL got hurt. He was the only scholarship QB left. And he didn’t play well. Below 60% completions and a 2 to 6 TD to INT ratio. The team finished 5-7.

So while those are 3 of the greatest QBs in UT history, they’re not really arguments as to why UT would do well starting a true freshman. Just because they went on to be successful, that doesn’t mean they were successful as freshmen or that the teams had success while they were freshmen. They didn’t.

And none of those guys went into fall practice and win the job from the jump, as you’re suggesting Faizon will do. They needed others to get hurt or suck for a few games.

Brandon may be the outlier. It’s not likely. But as I said above, nobody knows right now, including the head coach.
 
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LittleVol said:
Offensively this has been a pretty exciting year. Nico in 2024 added a nice run element. Okay pass element.
Joey in 2025 has been those in reverse. 3,000 yards and almost 30 TDs with two more games to play.
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Maybe I'm misremembering, but other than the bowl game against Iowa, I don't remember there being much of a run element to Nico's game at all.
 
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If Faizon is good enough to get playing time he will regardless of being a freshman. I'm sure Heupel can design a package of plays for him that suit his abilities that make the offense more difficult to defend. He has the physical traits to play now.
 
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