Starters That Kiffin Recruited

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Daniel Hood
Marsalis Teague
J Schofield
Tyler Bray
Channing Fugate
Zach Fulton
Jawuan James
Michael Palardy

Won't count J Smith since he was originally committed to Fulmer.
Won't count J Hunter since he committed to Dooley, but the word was Kiffin had already switched him.


That's 8 out of 24 starters. 1/3 of our team. He missed on a bunch of guys, but he got these players too.

Fulmer recruited these starters:

Willie Bohannon
Austin Johnson
Herman Lathers would be a starter if he wasn't injured.
Tauren Poole
Pre Waggner
Dallas Thomas

We will count this as 5, since Lathers is injured.

Dooley's recruited these starters:

Da'Rick Rogers
Mychal Rivera
Brent Brewer
Justin Coleman
Curt Maggitt
AJ Johnson
James Stone
Matt Darr

Totals to 8. Kiffin recruited the same amount of starter than Dooley in less time. Just wanted to point that out. I'm not a negavol for posting truth and I'm not a fan of Kiffin, just posting facts for the naysayers.
 
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They are older, they should be the starters.

But if you compare the caliber of starters that Dooley has recruited, I think there is a huge difference. He has brought some real players in.

Most of Kiffin's headline recruits are gone.
 
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NewToVolCountry said:
They are older, they should be the starters.

But if you compare the caliber of starters that Dooley has recruited, I think there is a huge difference. He has brought some real players in.

Most of Kiffin's headline recruits are gone.
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Exactly. And there is a vast difference between the impact that Johnson, Maggitt, etc will make compared to Kiffin's
 
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govols182 said:
Daniel Hood
Marsalis Teague
J Schofield
Tyler Bray
Channing Fugate
Zach Fulton
Jawuan James
Michael Palardy

Won't count J Smith since he was originally committed to Fulmer.
Won't count J Hunter since he committed to Dooley, but the word was Kiffin had already switched him.


That's 8 out of 24 starters. 1/3 of our team. He missed on a bunch of guys, but he got these players too.

Fulmer recruited these starters:

Willie Bohannon
Austin Johnson
Herman Lathers would be a starter if he wasn't injured.
Tauren Poole
Pre Waggner
Dallas Thomas

We will count this as 5, since Lathers is injured.

Dooley's recruited these starters:

Da'Rick Rogers
Mychal Rivera
Brent Brewer
Justin Coleman
Curt Maggitt
AJ Johnson
James Stone
Matt Darr

Totals to 8. Kiffin recruited the same amount of starter than Dooley in less time. Just wanted to point that out. I'm not a negavol for posting truth and I'm not a fan of Kiffin, just posting facts for the naysayers.
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Schoefield (who...if you're counting Smith for Fulmer then you'd have to count for Fulmer as well) and Bohanon aren't starters...they have been replaced by Martin (a Fulmer recruit) and Bullard (I guess you would say he's a Dooley "recruit")
 
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govols182 said:
Daniel Hood
Marsalis Teague
Tyler Bray
Channing Fugate
Zach Fulton
Jawuan James
Michael Palardy

Won't count J Smith since he was originally committed to Fulmer.
Won't count J Hunter since he committed to Dooley, but the word was Kiffin had already switched him.


That's 7 out of 24 starters. almost 1/3 of our team. He missed on a bunch of guys, but he got these players too.

Fulmer recruited these starters:

Willie Bohannon
Austin Johnson
Herman Lathers would be a starter if he wasn't injured.
Tauren Poole
Pre Waggner
Dallas Thomas

We will count this as 5, since Lathers is injured.

Dooley's recruited these starters:

Da'Rick Rogers
Mychal Rivera
Brent Brewer
Justin Coleman
Curt Maggitt
AJ Johnson
James Stone
Matt Darr

Totals to 8. Kiffin recruited slightly fewer starters than Dooley in slightly less time. Just wanted to point that out. I'm not a negavol for posting truth and I'm not a fan of Kiffin, just posting facts for the naysayers.
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FYP

Also, if you're counting transfers, Dooley's total rises to 10 (Jackson, Bullard).
 
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They weren't recruits though. They were transfers. Dooley did not recruit either of those guys.
 
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To me, Justin Hunter should count as a Dooley recruit. That makes 9 Dooley recruits that will be starters.
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govols182 said:
Daniel Hood
Marsalis Teague
J Schofield
Tyler Bray
Channing Fugate
Zach Fulton
Jawuan James
Michael Palardy

Won't count J Smith since he was originally committed to Fulmer.
Won't count J Hunter since he committed to Dooley, but the word was Kiffin had already switched him.


That's 8 out of 24 starters. 1/3 of our team. He missed on a bunch of guys, but he got these players too.

Fulmer recruited these starters:

Willie Bohannon
Austin Johnson
Herman Lathers would be a starter if he wasn't injured.
Tauren Poole
Pre Waggner
Dallas Thomas

We will count this as 5, since Lathers is injured.

Dooley's recruited these starters:

Da'Rick Rogers
Mychal Rivera
Brent Brewer
Justin Coleman
Curt Maggitt
AJ Johnson
James Stone
Matt Darr

Totals to 8. Kiffin recruited the same amount of starter than Dooley in less time. Just wanted to point that out. I'm not a negavol for posting truth and I'm not a fan of Kiffin, just posting facts for the naysayers.
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Except Dooley's recruits are freshman/sophomore and kiffin's are sophmore/junior so not really a apples to apples comparison. ntm Dooley has a lot of players in the 2deep and that is practically all the players left on the team kiff recruited.
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govols182 said:
Totals to 8. Kiffin recruited the same amount of starter than Dooley in less time. Just wanted to point that out. I'm not a negavol for posting truth and I'm not a fan of Kiffin, just posting facts for the naysayers.
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some of those were early enrollees who had the option to leave the program after dooley arrived.
 
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boro_vol said:
To me, Justin Hunter should count as a Dooley recruit. That makes 9 Dooley recruits that will be starters.
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Kiffin had already swayed him. It's been mentioned numerous times. It counts as a toss up. It could go either way. Hunter would have came here if Kiffin were still coach.
 
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govols182 said:
They weren't recruits though. They were transfers. Dooley did not recruit either of those guys.
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Dooley absolutely recruited Jackson to UT...he could have gone anywhere and decided on us because of Dooley and his staff pursuing him...

Bullard is iffy...he chose us because of proximity...but if that was his only motive then he could have chosen Vanderbilt, Ole Miss and several other schools

Our staff was a huge part of him coming here
 
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govols182 said:
They weren't recruits though. They were transfers. Dooley did not recruit either of those guys.
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It's fair not counting them, I was just pointing it out. I don't know to what extend the coach gets credit for getting solid transfers.

Also, as has been pointed out by at least one other, you'd expect more starters in the sophomore and junior classes (Kiffin) than the freshman and sophomore (Dooley).

What's fair to say is that both Dooley and Kiffin's 2010 recruits have been contributing at or above expectations, and Fulmer's classes and Kiffin's 2009 class have been under expectations.
 
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govols182 said:
Kiffin had already swayed him. It's been mentioned numerous times. It counts as a toss up. It could go either way. Hunter would have came here if Kiffin were still coach.
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This has been substantiated by nothing but message boaord rumors...

You're going to say Jackson doesn't count as a Dooley recruit but then use internet rumors as your reasoning behind not counting Hunter?
 
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govols182 said:
They weren't recruits though. They were transfers. Dooley did not recruit either of those guys.
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You could say he did, in fact, recruit Malik from USC. Once the news broke that players could transfer without sitting out Dooley was on the phone and played a part in Malik choosing UT.
 
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govols182 said:
Kiffin had already swayed him. It's been mentioned numerous times. It counts as a toss up. It could go either way. Hunter would have came here if Kiffin were still coach.
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Incorrect. Hunter was boy coming I until Dooley closed the deal.
 
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govols182 said:
Daniel Hood
Marsalis Teague
J Schofield
Tyler Bray
Channing Fugate
Zach Fulton
Jawuan James
Michael Palardy

Won't count J Smith since he was originally committed to Fulmer.
Won't count J Hunter since he committed to Dooley, but the word was Kiffin had already switched him.


That's 8 out of 24 starters. 1/3 of our team. He missed on a bunch of guys, but he got these players too.

Fulmer recruited these starters:

Willie Bohannon
Austin Johnson
Herman Lathers would be a starter if he wasn't injured.
Tauren Poole
Pre Waggner
Dallas Thomas

We will count this as 5, since Lathers is injured.

Dooley's recruited these starters:

Da'Rick Rogers
Mychal Rivera
Brent Brewer
Justin Coleman
Curt Maggitt
AJ Johnson
James Stone
Matt Darr

Totals to 8. Kiffin recruited the same amount of starter than Dooley in less time. Just wanted to point that out. I'm not a negavol for posting truth and I'm not a fan of Kiffin, just posting facts for the naysayers.
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Chaney was responsible for Bray. Had Chaney went west Bray wouldn't be here. I think Thompson was responsible for James not positive though. And schofield isn't a starter.
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thunder5 said:
You're trying to pretend your intent isn't to be negative but you exclusion of Hunter and Jackson as Dooley recruits says otherwise
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Your inclusion of those two makes your intent to be positive. I'm actually playing the middle. I like Dooley, but he gets credit for some things he didn't do. Just saying...
 
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