Spring Practice Thread #1 Tuesday 3/10/20

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whodeycin85 said:
Just cuz im not a programmer for Microsoft doesnt mean i can't program better than them...

Just cuz someone is not a coach doesnt mean they dont know more. Just mens they dont make the choices of the team.. your logic is dumb
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Behr said:
Yore welcome and your point was stupid. If you can't do any better than that just be quiet.
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whodeycin85 said:
Really explain instead of hurling insults?
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Does he really need to explain?
 
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Behr said:
Lulz, I was on your side of all this and wasn't even talking to you, until you called my logic dumb.

The thought that you, a fan on an internet message board that has never been to a practice, has never worked side by side with any of these players, hasn't been coaching for years and years, didn't recruit any of these guys.....etc. know more about those individual QB's than the coaches, is just all kinds of stupid. I actually can't believe you're trying to argue this.
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Lol my bad on the dumb comment. Used to deali g with ktown. For me your 100% right. I can only go off what i see in games and practice vids...1vol8 has stated severl time her has been to practices and more...it was more for him then me..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Lol my bad on the dumb comment. Used to deali g with ktown. For me your 100% right. I can only go off what i see in games and practice vids...1vol8 has stated severl time her has been to practices and more...it was more for him then me..
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Its all good, but just because he says he's been to practices still doesn't mean he knows more than the coaches. Coaches aren't perfect and they can be wrong just like anyone else, but I'll take their word over it every. Single. Time versus some know-it-all on a message board.
 
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Behr said:
Its all good, but just because he says he's been to practices still doesn't mean he knows more than the coaches. Coaches aren't perfect and they can be wrong just like anyone else, but I'll take their word over it every. Single. Time versus some know-it-all on a message board.
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Fair enough
 
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1vol8 said:
Behr..... I’ve always respected you so don’t get this twisted as disrespect but you have no idea who has said what to me. Therefore you telling me what I THINK I know is ignorant on your part. My opinions don’t just form from hype or practice videos.
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All due respect, but I don't care who told you what. I believe Pruitt played who he thought gave us the best chance to win. If Pruitt himself told you differently and you can prove that, I'll apologize. If Pruitt thought Maurer was better but still played JG I don't care, it worked. Get him to tell me that and I'll apologize. Other than that, I think we're done here.
 
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Behr said:
Lulz, I was on your side of all this and wasn't even talking to you, until you called my logic dumb.

The thought that you, a fan on an internet message board that has never been to a practice, has never worked side by side with any of these players, hasn't been coaching for years and years, didn't recruit any of these guys.....etc. know more about those individual QB's than the coaches, is just all kinds of stupid. I actually can't believe you're trying to argue this.
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No. You were talking to me and none of what you said applies to me. I have been to practice because I hold an open invite. I have worked with players. I have been coaching for years. And I have recruited. What he said is very true. Every coach, programmer, archeologists, architect ext ext have their areas of expertise. The title of head coach, archeologist, architect ext ext doesn’t mean master of all areas. It simply means he got a chance based on HIS area of expertise showing results.
 
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Is that Michael Myers watching practice? At 1:52 of the 6th video down. He’s in the background.

Or maybe it’s Sting from the WCW
 
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1vol8 said:
No. You were talking to me and none of what you said applies to me. I have been to practice because I hold an open invite. I have worked with players. I have been coaching for years. And I have recruited. What he said is very true. Every coach, programmer, archeologists, architect ext ext have their areas of expertise. The title of head coach, archeologist, architect ext ext doesn’t mean master of all areas. It simply means he got a chance based on HIS area of expertise showing results.
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So Pruitt is just a HC and doesn't have the expertise that you do when it comes to QB evaluation? That the grandiose version?
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Just cuz im not a programmer for Microsoft doesnt mean i can't program better than them...

Just cuz someone is not a coach doesnt mean they dont know more. Just mens they dont make the choices of the team.. your logic is dumb
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So you’re on record that fans know more than coaches?
 
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1vol8 said:
I can’t answer that honestly. However, as much as I like Pruitt, I think most would agree he made a mistake based on his evaluation by anointing JG wouldn’t you say?
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I don’t think we win six straight going with this board’s decisions. Groaned along with everyone else when he started JG the second half against Kentucky...he was right.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Ok then so we should all stop using the statements about a QBs starting record and their wins and losses right? So why is the statement JG led us to
8 wins not a fact?
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A lot of reasons but mostly because he shared the position in several of those wins.

No. You don't have to stop talking about a QB's record. You and k-town seem to love that idea... I guess we know why. But JG played a very good game vs Mizzou. His performance was "good" vs USCe. He played well vs UK. But he played VERY poorly vs Vandy and IU.

He managed the run game very well in the latter part of the season and that certainly helped win some games. But by no stretch of the imagination was he consistent or good enough to give a guy who really didn't nail the job down as a RS Jr.

They may have thought that but inevitably who did they rely on time and time again? JG. Why? Because he was the best we had.
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True or not... that doesn't mean he was good much less that he "won" 8 games for the Vols. They MANAGED the QB position all year long. His biggest advantage and ONLY reason you can say he was the best option was his ability to manage the O. That's shear experience.... Pruitt trusted his experience over the potential of Shrout and Maurer. There is merit in that decision IF your D and OL are good enough. They weren't early in the season and began to be at the end.

Sorry that defeats your narrative but it does. You and others just continue to fall flat by not giving credit where it is due. And you continue to look stupid by
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I've given him credit. You give him too much while denying some fatal weaknesses that hurt the team repeatedly.
 
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butchna said:
I don’t think we win six straight going with this board’s decisions. Groaned along with everyone else when he started JG the second half against Kentucky...he was right.
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The way he handled it was great with the knowing when to switch. However it’s also unfair to assume BM couldn’t or wouldn’t have produced the same results had he been allowed to finish the game. I agree we may not have went 6 straight. But isn’t it possible we beat BYU or GAST with BM rather than JG? Hard to say no. Hard to say yes. Well never know.
 
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JJ is the only one I heard say openly that JG was the "best option" and that came second hand through an announcer. That's not meaningless however JJ seemed to have a problem with Maurer and especially later in the season. Not sure what it was but I saw a couple of reactions from him both on the field and on the sideline.
 
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sjt18 said:
JJ is the only one I heard say openly that JG was the "best option" and that came second hand through an announcer. That's not meaningless however JJ seemed to have a problem with Maurer and especially later in the season. Not sure what it was but I saw a couple of reactions from him both on the field and on the sideline.
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Big orange train showed an article that I guess had his quotes in it. I didn’t read it but evidently he did say it. Still only one person and I’ve yet to see an entire team that everyone truly liked everyone. Too many different personalities to expect that.

Although I’ve heard several people say they seen something that I must have missed. What happened on the field or sidelines that gave that impression?
 
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1vol8 said:
I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again. Anyone that believed those reports is fooling themselves. I’m not saying each of them didn’t have their bad days on occasion but not to the extent of the reports. Every one of them are too good to struggle that often and wouldn’t be here or any other power 5 school if they had. I went to a few practices myself and seen the exact opposite of what was reported on those particular days last spring.
We’re talking about an elite 11 qb that reached that stage by throwing routes on air for schools across the nation. Earning offers from every school in the process. Helton was quoted saying “His workout was among the best he’d ever seen” when he earned the offer from UT. In fact the elite 11 aired the episode of him being among the most accurate of his class in his pro day, which IS routes on air if you’d like to see for yourself. A bad day, I can see happening. However I refuse to believe that he suddenly lost his accuracy and forgot how to throw a football once he arrived at UT. It makes no sense. The only logical explanation is the media following the narrative of pushing the starter and/or hype of whoever is the hot topic. And last year they proved that theory correct.
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20% interceptable passes is in publicly viewed games...not behind curtains. The guy has major issues to overcome, despite his great athletic talent.
 
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butchna said:
I don’t think we win six straight going with this board’s decisions. Groaned along with everyone else when he started JG the second half against Kentucky...he was right.
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JG played decent during that stretch. Looked great at times. Looked bad against Vandy and Indiana.

We can win 8 games with JG, or we can win 8 with HB giving him a year's experience.
 
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1vol8 said:
The way he handled it was great with the knowing when to switch. However it’s also unfair to assume BM couldn’t or wouldn’t have produced the same results had he been allowed to finish the game. I agree we may not have went 6 straight. But isn’t it possible we beat BYU or GAST with BM rather than JG? Hard to say no. Hard to say yes. Well never know.
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I’m not concerned with fair or unfair. I’m all about results. We lost the first two with JG so that’s a known. Also know that the offense AND defense had issues that didn’t start setting until the Mississippi State game. Whether Maurer making a play or two that JG didn’t would’ve salted those games away or whether interceptions and/or turnovers resulting from his gunslinger style completely replicated the same losses rests with the unknown. Pruitt doesn’t have the luxury of our revisionist analysis.
 
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Devo182 said:
20% interceptable passes is in publicly viewed games...not behind curtains. The guy has major issues to overcome, despite his great athletic talent.
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He needs to get better with decision making. As does any freshman qb. So does HB. You can look at any highlight video of HBs and count several passes, tds or otherwise, that would’ve been ints in the SEC.
 
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butchna said:
I’m not concerned with fair or unfair. I’m all about results. We lost the first two with JG so that’s a known. Also know that the offense AND defense had issues that didn’t start setting until the Mississippi State game. Whether Maurer making a play or two that JG didn’t would’ve salted those games away or whether interceptions and/or turnovers resulting from his gunslinger style completely replicated the same losses rests with the unknown. Pruitt doesn’t have the luxury of our revisionist analysis.
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Fair enough.
 
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