Spain blackout

[dalton_vol]

They go full green and a few days later their grid goes down. Comedy.

 

[StarRaider]

one of those coinky dinks the eu put this out less than a month ago

Stockpile 72 hours of supplies in case of disaster or attack, EU tells citizens

Bloc’s first preparedness strategy urges people to prepare for floods, fires, pandemics or military strikes

www.theguardian.com

always keep some cash on hand

 

[Vol8188]

They go full green and a few days later their grid goes down. Comedy.

To be completely fair to the NYT I can’t read the full article. But as soon as I saw the headline about how the cause was “unclear”, my first thought was “this is some hippy power bs that they’re trying to cover for”

 

[dalton_vol]

Looks like north korea, crazy they got rid of all nuclear and Cole power

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Hopefully Al Gore and Greta help them soon.

 

[RavinDave]

They could use some clean beautiful coal.

 

[evillawyer]

They go full green and a few days later their grid goes down. Comedy.

I'm guessing that's why Texas has so much trouble with their grid too. All those renewables those libtards in Texas can't get enough of. Right? Right?

 

[Vol8188]

To be completely fair to the NYT I can’t read the full article. But as soon as I saw the headline about how the cause was “unclear”, my first thought was “this is some hippy power bs that they’re trying to cover for”

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In their defense, NYT did post about the true issue today. Rather than it’s just so “unclear”

How Spain’s Success in Renewable Energy May Have Left Its Power Grid Vulnerable

The Iberian Peninsula’s widespread blackout raises questions about the resilience of the electric power infrastructure in the two countries — and to an extent, the rest of Europe.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Vol8188]

I'm guessing that's why Texas has so much trouble with their grid too. All those renewables those libtards in Texas can't get enough of. Right? Right?

You’re comparing the results of a record breaking winter storm in Texas to the results of a random Monday in Spain?

That comparison makes sense in your mind?

The weather in Spain this week couldn’t be nicer. Madrid has had lows in the high 40s to low 50s and highs in the 70s.

 

[lawgator1]

You guys seem to know the cause. Enlighten us.

 

[Vol8188]

You guys seem to know the cause. Enlighten us.

How Spain’s Success in Renewable Energy May Have Left Its Power Grid Vulnerable

The Iberian Peninsula’s widespread blackout raises questions about the resilience of the electric power infrastructure in the two countries — and to an extent, the rest of Europe.

www.nytimes.com

 

[lawgator1]

How Spain’s Success in Renewable Energy May Have Left Its Power Grid Vulnerable

The Iberian Peninsula’s widespread blackout raises questions about the resilience of the electric power infrastructure in the two countries — and to an extent, the rest of Europe.

www.nytimes.com

That doesn't tell me the cause.

 

[Vol8188]

That doesn't tell me the cause.

You read all that? I only posted it two minutes ago. The “listen to this article” option is over 5 minutes long and that’s assuming you clicked it as soon as I posted it

 

[dalton_vol]

That doesn't tell me the cause.

The cause is, your mother earth can't blow enough wind to power a large country. How's that for more than a few days.

 

[dalton_vol]

You read all that? I only posted it two minutes ago. The “listen to this article” option is over 5 minutes long and that’s assuming you clicked it as soon as I posted it

Hey didn't read it

 

[dalton_vol]

They could use some clean beautiful coal.

Yep

 

[dalton_vol]

You’re comparing the results of a record breaking winter storm in Texas to the results of a random Monday in Spain?

That comparison makes sense in your mind?

The weather in Spain this week couldn’t be nicer. Madrid is has had lows in the high 40s to low 50s and highs in the 70s.

Evil lawyer stretches the comparison to the limits of logic. He tends to cross over to touchy feelings zone

 

[StarRaider]

the socialists aren't cheering net zero? wtf ... these climate change activist clowns have been gluing themselves to roads and art for years for this moment

 

[rekinhavoc]

Carbon credits keep you cool in the summer and warm in the winter. It's science.

 

[lawgator1]

Hey didn't read it

It's blocked. Pay wall.

 

[lawgator1]

Why Did the Lights Go Out in Spain and Portugal? Here’s What We Know.

The authorities are still trying to determine the cause of a widespread blackout that left tens of millions of people without power for 18 hours.

www.nytimes.com

This updated article says it's still under investigation and does not conclude it was caused by renewable energy sources problems.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I'm guessing that's why Texas has so much trouble with their grid too. All those renewables those libtards in Texas can't get enough of. Right? Right?

You know Texas is by far the leading producer of renewable energy....

 

[LouderVol]

That doesn't tell me the cause.

currently they haven't released the cause. they have said there were fluctuations in the electricity in the grid. the voltage was changing pretty rapidly across the country, which is not good. once it got unbalanced enough, it knocked 60% of production out, and what little was left couldn't handle everything, and it shut down.

the last 40% is easy to figure out, the other 60% is the problem. and it sounds like just about anything could be the cause. anything from a solar flare, although there wasn't one, down to a short somewhere in a line. what I have been able to see is fluctuations aren't that uncommon, and most systems are able to adapt and shut them down before they become major issues like this.

which implies Spain has too much reliance on something that failed. we just don't know what failed first. it could be power generation issue, or it could be the type of transformer/transmission they use. it could always be a hack, but no one thinks that is likely based on the fluctuations being much too random, and fixable on another system.

but this is one of the things that people have been warning about with renewables. they just aren't as reliable/simple as another source generating power.

 

[McDad]

This is textbook for conversation in the PF. Well done, LG.

How Spain’s Success in Renewable Energy May Have Left Its Power Grid Vulnerable

The Iberian Peninsula’s widespread blackout raises questions about the resilience of the electric power infrastructure in the two countries — and to an extent, the rest of Europe.

www.nytimes.com

That doesn't tell me the cause.

You read all that? I only posted it two minutes ago. The “listen to this article” option is over 5 minutes long and that’s assuming you clicked it as soon as I posted it

It's blocked. Pay wall.

 

[Orange_Crush]

That doesn't tell me the cause.

It's blocked. Pay wall.

Well, then... lol