Southern Miss fans are saying bullstuff about Coach Tyndall

#51
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You can be a thug on the field or the court and not carry it across to your personal life. Bill Lambeer took pride in hurting opposing players, and has admitted it in past interviews. That's straight up thuggin' on the court. Haynesworth stomped an opposing players face. Definately straight up thuggin' on the field.
 
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madbamahater said:
darkgable said:
Gotta love those clueless white people who try to dictate how other people should perceive racist terminology. Been to a Clippers game lately?
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Are you assuming that I am white or something?

Based on your comments about my post, it seems you are basically claiming that Tyndall thinks all African Americans are "thugs" and that he isn't going to recruit or sign any African Americans. That is basically what you are implying.

You are a fool!!
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FYP
Here, that makes it look better. You're welcome.
 
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butchna said:
:aggressive:...stone cold " thuggin: there
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OG style

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GBOVOLS said:
This is very true but in a game that is dominated by African American young males from the America's inner city it could come off wrong. He could have ment black person or he could ment what you said. It was just a poor choice of words and with recent comments by a certain Clippers owner has only compounded that.

Best believe other SEC coaches will use that against us in recruiting. I don't believe he meant black people at all though he has no background in being a racist so nothing leads me to think otherwise. He just has to watch how he words things.
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Are you insinuating white men aren't as good at basketball? Are you the racist or are you just so thin skinned you can't recognize the hypocrisy in your statement?
 
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Haven't we had this whole thug debate in another thread already? I think that if the need arises that Coach will have a lot of explayers coming out of the woodwork to defend him and talk about their experience with him.
 
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madbamahater said:
If anyone thinks the word "thug" is racist, then they are the ones implying that only a certain color of people can be "thugs". That would actually make them the racists. I've never understood this argument and never will. It's always coming from the type of people that are obsessed with the race for whatever reason. Like obsessed.

"Thug" is a behavioral (attitude) issue and that's is all it is. Are the people calling Tyndall a racist implying that all people of a certain color have behavioral issues? If so, that makes them the ignorant bastards.
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Well put!:good!:
 
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La. Tech turned down this job.

Michael White didn't turn down the job. He turned down the contract. Big difference.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
La. Tech turned down this job.

Michael White didn't turn down the job. He turned down the contract. Big difference.
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Is there?

The fact that UT even offered Michael White is an embarrassment. The fact that he opted to stay at Louisiana Tech of all places is beyond humiliating to Tennessee and speaks volumes about the state of the program.
 
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Trailbait said:
Is there?

The fact that UT even offered Michael White is an embarrassment. The fact that he opted to stay at Louisiana Tech of all places is beyond humiliating to Tennessee and speaks volumes about the state of the program.
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If you even have to ask that question then I don't know what I could possible tell you to help you understand.
 
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Trailbait said:
Is there?

The fact that UT even offered Michael White is an embarrassment. The fact that he opted to stay at Louisiana Tech of all places is beyond humiliating to Tennessee and speaks volumes about the state of the program.
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That Martin left it in, in fact, the program was in such a bad state according to White, that he felt he needed more job security.

White was playing games with the contract and may have felt he could not get us there, period. Was appearing to be a stepping stone job to another school the buyout was the hangup and again if we hired him and he left we were financially screw.

+1 Hart was not going to let that happen.

Plus, If the coach doesn't know he can turn it around quickly then we don't want him.

Hart probably intentionally low-balled him to get him off the list and move onto another better coach. Best way to separate or end the negotiations.

If you are going to be upset about this beyond the hire, it maybe time for you to take a break for 3-6 yrs.

Tyndell is a good hire and the AD is doing a good job.

Tyndall>White>Martin>Pearl
Hart>Hamiliton.

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Clueless poster added to the growing list.
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agree.
 
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VOLstuckinKY2 said:
Agreed. I'd throw Kevin McHale (Celtics) and present day Philip Rivers in that category.....
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Ummm. You must not know Philip Rivers that well. He doesn't even curse. Whiner? yes, Crybaby? Yes. Thug? Absolutely not. You must have gotten him confused with the real Chargers QB thug. Ryan Leaf. Now there's a thug. By the way, I think he's back in jail.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Hart probably intentionally low-balled him to get him off the list and move onto another better coach.
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So you think Dave Hart intentionally made Tennessee a laughingstock? If true, he's a bigger mess than I thought.

Tennessee should be the opportunity of a lifetime for a no-name coach stuck in the sewage dump that is Louisiana. Tennessee gives a coach a big stage on which to perform.

I sure hope some miracle occurs that turns this situation around. While it's great to be in the SEC, there is no margin for error here.
 
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Trailbait said:
So you think Dave Hart intentionally made Tennessee a laughingstock? If true, he's a bigger mess than I thought.

Tennessee should be the opportunity of a lifetime for a no-name coach stuck in the sewage dump that is Louisiana. Tennessee gives a coach a big stage on which to perform.

I sure hope some miracle occurs that turns this situation around. While it's great to be in the SEC, there is no margin for error here.
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Not at all, I think he gave White a contract he could refuse and moved on to the better fit.

You are the only one calling the Tyndall hire and the White's non acceptance of the contract, a laughingstock.

If this is the case, then you probably have never agreed with any hire at UT.

I am trying to figure out if your last name is Martin, Dooley, or White.

If the only reasonable choices were White and Tyndall, then we got the better choice, the better fit and a win-win contract.

The White non hiring is out of everybody's news cycle and why you have recently joined Vol Nation and brought it back up as a Topic is beyond belief.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So why didn't the search start with him instead of White?
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There were articles/indications posted (go look them up before you cry for a link) that Tyndall was actually contacted before White and then we re-visited.

State also requires that you must interview 3 applicants before you hire.

Let me add, how many interviews have you conducted that you thought that the interviewee was the one, but it changes as the interview progresses. It happens, maybe the case here.

The last thing we needed was more instability. White could/would not guarantee it, but Tyndall could and even stated so by calling it a Destination Job.

Whether or not it is for Tyndall, time will tell, but the fact is that he believes it will, speaks volumes.
 
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I don't think CDT was being racist but I can think of other ways of presenting that which might have worked a little better. In public speaking I've always preferred to present things in a positive light. "All our recruits will adhere to a standard that brings pride to their community and The University of Tennessee"....or something similar.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
There were articles/indications posted (go look them up before you cry for a link) that Tyndall was actually contacted before White and then we re-visited.

State also requires that you must interview 3 applicants before you hire.

Let me add, how many interviews have you conducted that you thought that the interviewee was the one, but it changes as the interview progresses. It happens, maybe the case here.

The last thing we needed was more instability. White could/would not guarantee it, but Tyndall could and even stated so by calling it a Destination Job.

Whether or not it is for Tyndall, time will tell, but the fact is that he believes it will, speaks volumes.
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Good post, thanks.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
There were articles/indications posted (go look them up before you cry for a link) that Tyndall was actually contacted before White and then we re-visited.

State also requires that you must interview 3 applicants before you hire.

Let me add, how many interviews have you conducted that you thought that the interviewee was the one, but it changes as the interview progresses. It happens, maybe the case here.

The last thing we needed was more instability. White could/would not guarantee it, but Tyndall could and even stated so by calling it a Destination Job.

Whether or not it is for Tyndall, time will tell, but the fact is that he believes it will, speaks volumes.
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Tyndall said himself that White was offered the job first
 
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jjay2518 said:
Maybe Hart wanted to take a flyer on White first to see if he could get him for a cheaper buyout since he's less proven.
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And that's exactly what I said at the time might have been what went down, but is saving a little money only in the case you have to fire the guy worth passing on Option 1?

I just don't buy that Tyndall was option 1, he said himself he wasn't. That's not necessarily a bad thing though, Butch wasn't option 1 and neither was Pearl, sometimes things have a funny way of working themselves out.
 
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