Sorry, I'm going against the crowd

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BleedinOrange said:
Lol you would. Hes on 80% of the people on this boards ignore list and just joined mine , forgive me for making a spelling error at 2:30 in the morning, get a life. He is also one with a love for never winning Championships. And nobody is insulting you, read around these boards and see that there is a ton of information out there about new coaches and everything. We are not just ignorant rednecks screaming about getting the fat guy out.
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I've read the rumors, and you and I know it will probably not happen. People think we'll get coaches like Pete Carrol, and thats complete BS.

And why is he on peoples ignore list? Just for posting facts, or has he done something wrong?
 
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Ok, of course people are going to say stuff about Pete Carrol, hes one of the best coaches out there, people want the best. But there is about 10 or more coaches out there being talked about that dont include him. $$ talks and we have it to spend.
 
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BleedinOrange said:
Ok, of course people are going to say stuff about Pete Carrol, hes one of the best coaches out there, people want the best. But there is about 10 or more coaches out there being talked about that dont include him. $$ talks and we have it to spend.
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We wont have it if we have to buy out Phil.
 
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Rumor has it that Clawson has been wanting to pull Crompton since the UCLA game and he has been overrode. Before we blame any one person, we should know and understand what goes on behind the scenes. Us fans have no idea what banter flows back and forth and where the power lies.

Clawson may indeed hold some responsibility, but the unltimate blame must still reside on Fulmer. He is responsible for the football program as a whole and as a head coach, should be able to manage his coaches and players. Considering there is not a visible leader or motivator on the entire team, management is not happening.

So far, both have been underachieving and a disappointment. Salvaging the season in some way is still possible, but not the direction they are heading now. Putting Nick in is a good start and having Colquitt back may help, but until the O line and running game get their head out of their @ss, it will be for nothing.

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I'm just laughing at the idea that a group that can't convert 2nd and 1 into a 1st down against Northern Illinois is a "great offensive line." Great UT offensive linemen play a decade in the NFL. These 5 will be bagging your groceries and trying to sell you insurance next spring.
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#31
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hatvol96 said:
I'm just laughing at the idea that a group that can't convert 2nd and 1 into a 1st down against Northern Illinois is a "great offensive line." Great UT offensive linemen play a decade in the NFL. These 5 will be bagging your groceries and trying to sell you insurance next spring.
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I'm just laughing at the fact of how you can't realize that I was saying Clawson can't make a championship caliber offense do anything.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
I'm just laughing at the fact of how you can't realize that I was saying Clawson can't make a championship caliber offense do anything.
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You're the one who said 5 guys who will be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit on their 2010 return are a great offensive line. That's humor of an epic proportion.
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Titans4Vols said:
And saying, this isn't Fulmers fault. Should he be responsible for hiring such a horrid o-coord? Yeah. But he saw potential, and it hasn't worked. I know, with an offense that has Foster, Creer, Hardesty, Jones, Taylor, great o-line, etc, we should be putting massive amounts of points, and we're not. 2 Years ago, with Coach Cut as O Coord, Crompton looked like another great QB, and it was looking like losing Ainge wouldn't be much of a drop off.

Buuuuuuuuuuuut. We lose Coach Cut when Crompton finally starts, and he gets hit with a completely new offense, completely new everything. Clawson makes him throw it 50 times a game, when our run game is very much dominant, and had we run it 30-40 times a game, we'd be 4-1 or undefeated this year. Fulmer doesn't call the plays. Clawson does. I really wish we had kept Trooper Taylor too, what a great man he was, great motivator.

Fulmer has brought us bowl games all but 1 year. And its been what, 16 years now? How can you complain about that? Oh, we don't get in the national championship game every year, we should fire him. Good lord. We play in the toughest conference year in and year out. We're not gonna win it every year. But we've contended each year but one of those 16 years.

I have to say, we have some of the worst fans, as far as being pleased goes. A good 60-70 teams wish they could be as successful as us, year in and year out. We can still turn this season around, and if we take away the play calling from Clawson, I think we can. Maybe Stephens will give this team a lift. I dunno.

Maybe he's a better fit then Crompton at QB. Maybe he's who we need to run this type of offense. But I still think we should pass 20 times, run it 40. We have 3 backs who would be starting on basically any team in America. If we win this week vs Georgia, I see a turn-around coming. If not, 7-5 at best.

We can still make a season out of this.
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Do you work around heavy equipment? If so please report for a drug test asap.
Clawsons fault???? Get real...
Our O-line was very very grossly over rated coming into the year. Our problems on offense start with that "great" o line.
 
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the problem is allways at the top,thats where it starts and works it way down.

a good boss.or coach in this case would admit he is the first to accept responibility for what is happening, now at ut what we see is anyone but the head man as being the problem . when a business has gone sour the top man is held accountable, the same applies here, fulmer is the sickness that has infested ut football. maybe he can be a man one day soon and take full responsibility for what is his fault. its crystal clear he can not stop the bleeding, leaving only one option, step down with what dignity he has left.
 
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Coach Cut left cause he knew the direction we were headed.We were in the SEC Champ because of 3 plays,Vandy missed a fiel goal,Ky missed a field goal and we had to depend on someone else to beat Fl!!!!!!
 
#37
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You guys sound like a bunch of bitter old Alabama fans. I'll reserve my feeling regarding a coaching change until the end of the season. Maybe its the optimist in me, but I'll pull for the Vols until the final whistle is blown. I am not giving up on this season yet! Go ahead, flame away... all I've got to say is GO VOLS! Beat them Dawgs!
 
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Blaming the woes thus far on Clawson is an outlandish thought, at best. Obviously the heir to the QB throne was incapable of running it. More, he barely had any time to install and run the offense before it was time to play. I think you'll see a night and day comparison by the end of the year, and next season.
 
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volway69 said:
Coach Cut left cause he knew the direction we were headed.We were in the SEC Champ because of 3 plays,Vandy missed a fiel goal,Ky missed a field goal and we had to depend on someone else to beat Fl!!!!!!
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Coach Cut left because he got offered the HC job at a school with low expectations and a whole heap of money.

Anything he does is golden. If he doesn't succeed--business as usual for Duke.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
No. I just see the whole picture. Clawson is this teams problem.
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This mind thought is exactly why Fulmer is still here. If we fire Clawson, who are they going to blame it on next year, the Easter bunny?
 
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Gcrop said:
It seems a scapegoat not named Fulmer will always be found.
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Let's blame it on the turf management guys. The grass on the practice field allows for faster cuts than most playing surfaces. The receivers aren't going as fast in the games due to inferior grass, thus the timing is off. The o-line can't get the footing they're used to, so they can't block as well. The running backs can't cut back to turn the corner. The punter can't get his kick off because he's afraid of slipping.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
I love how everyone here insults. Can't debate like human beings can you?

As I've said, I'm not Fulmer's biggest fan, but everyone blames every single problem on him, and it's not all of his fault. Clawson deserves a lot of it as well. I highly doubt Fulmer touches the plays, and honestly, till I get proof, I'm not going to believe it. So, say, we fire Fulmer. Who do we get, that will do everything he has done in 16 years?
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kinda hard to debate like human beings when your point is pure nonsense....thats like me trying to debate the sky is green, until i get proof its green:crazy:
 
#45
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utfantilidie said:
This mind thought is exactly why Fulmer is still here. If we fire Clawson, who are they going to blame it on next year, the Easter bunny?
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The fulmerites will blame Clawson's replacement. They can't seem to grasp the concept that great coaches hire top notch assistants and let then do their job. Fulmer won't do that because he is afraid that someone might overshadow him and do unto him what he did unto his boss.
 
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didnt we say it was randy sanders fault in 05? Now its Clawsons fault? Was it cutcliffes fault we struggled to win against vandy and Ky last year and got blown out by florida and bama? I guess its clawson fault to that our defense couldnt stop a 3rd string QB and UCLA. Its also his fault that we get so many penalties. Lets blame clawson for the 5-12 record vs florida over the past 17 years. when will it be Fulmers fault?

I seriously doubt anyone expects a NC or even a SEC championship every year. How about once every 10 years. Even hamilton said he expects a SEC championship 2 times in 10 years.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
The fulmerites will blame Clawson's replacement. They can't seem to grasp the concept that great coaches hire top notch assistants and let then do their job. Fulmer won't do that because he is afraid that someone might overshadow him and do unto him what he did unto his boss.
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Bingo!

People need to stop acting like this is the first year this program has struggled. Blaming Clawson is essentiallly saying that this program was doing fine until he got here. How is 2005 Clawson's fault? How is the lack of talent on this team his fault? How is the lack of SEC championships in this decade Clawson's fault?

Clawson's been working with a sorry offensive line, a QB who couldn't keep his head in the game and a micomanaging coach who has been making excuses for years, all of which he inherited. How you expect him to turn that into a great offense is beyond me.
 
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Sitting here listening to Chris Low on the Basilio radio show saying that Clawson wanted a QB competition in the Spring but Fulmer vetoed him and said Crompton was the starter partly based on seniority and partly based on a fear of repeating what happened with the Ainge/Clausen QB controversy. Now that it is obvious Fulmer tapped the wrong guy, Phillip is telling Clawson to play who he thinks is best. The same thing is happening at RB where Fulmer is now saying Drayton will decide who plays instead of insisting that Foster get the lion's share of carries. The Vols may play out of their heads and make something magical occur in Athens, but realistically this team is not prepared to beat a team on UGA's level right now. It looks to me like Fulmer is getting his ducks in a row to try and blame the new staff members for the bad season. I hope people will remember that Phillip is the one who hand-picked these coaches when he could've gone after more experienced assistants. I also hope the word gets out there that Fulmer handcuffed the offensive coaches and set them up to fail with his awful decision making.
 
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Look how Notre Dames offense got better we he handed over the plays to a O coordinator.
 
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VolsZealot said:
didnt we say it was randy sanders fault in 05? Now its Clawsons fault? Was it cutcliffes fault we struggled to win against vandy and Ky last year and got blown out by florida and bama? I guess its clawson fault to that our defense couldnt stop a 3rd string QB and UCLA. Its also his fault that we get so many penalties. Lets blame clawson for the 5-12 record vs florida over the past 17 years. when will it be Fulmers fault?

I seriously doubt anyone expects a NC or even a SEC championship every year. How about once every 10 years. Even hamilton said he expects a SEC championship 2 times in 10 years.
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Yea
The defense is the problem, it's ranked 5th nationally, out of 119 programs
and the scoring offense is 103 out of 119
 
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