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Last night Coach Johnny Majors was in Huntsville speaking at the quarterback club to a bunch of Alabama fans. He also did some local radio this morning. While he would not comment about the coaching situation and CPF, he did do plenty of commenting about how bad the UT team is this year to the delight of Bammers in the audience.

He also was more than willing to take credit for Tennessee's success in the nineties based on his recruiting and re-building of the UTK program. I was very young when he coached at UT and was not the avid follower of the program at that time. My question is do you believe he has any legitimate claim to the success of the 90's, and if so, does that mean CPF is even more overrated?
 
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The question about should Fulmer get any credit for the success of the 90's is open for debate.

But one thing is clear. Johnny left the cupboard in better condition for Fulmer than Fulmer will leave it for his successor.
 
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nickknx865 said:
After 1995, no. That would be when his last recruting class graduated.
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He had UT in good standing for the next coach. Fulmer stepped into a pretty good situation. Majors may not deserve all the credit, but he probably deserves credit for Fulmer being successful as quickly as he was.
 
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Majors is still mad at the way they got rid of him. He couldn't beat bama and he couldn't win the SEC. Did He mention that. Besides Phil was his go to guy in recruiting during his tenure if I'm not mistaken.
 
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He definitely has some claim to our success in the 90s. He laid a foundation for a good football program (although it took him about 10 years to do it and he would have never been given that much time in today's world). That being said, if he had been the head coach in the mid 90s I don't think we win that National Title.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Majors is still mad at the way they got rid of him. He couldn't beat bama and he couldn't win the SEC. Did He mention that. Besides Phil was his go to guy in recruiting during his tenure if I'm not mistaken.
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He won 2 SEC titles in his last 4 years in Knoxville. :unsure:
 
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Majors did bring the program back. And who knows how many high school contacts he introduced Phil to. So he may have a point, but I would argue that Peyton Manning had more to do with it than him.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Majors is still mad at the way they got rid of him. He couldn't beat bama and he couldn't win the SEC. Did He mention that. Besides Phil was his go to guy in recruiting during his tenure if I'm not mistaken.
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No, in fact, from the bitterness towards UT coming from the podium, I really thought could give a great pre-game speech on the third Saturday in October... FOR BAMA.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Majors is still mad at the way they got rid of him. He couldn't beat bama and he couldn't win the SEC. Did He mention that. Besides Phil was his go to guy in recruiting during his tenure if I'm not mistaken.
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Majors won more SEC titles than Fulmer. Next.
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GAVol said:
He definitely has some claim to our success in the 90s. He laid a foundation for a good football program (although it took him about 10 years to do it and he would have never been given that much time in today's world). That being said, if he had been the head coach in the mid 90s I don't think we win that National Title.
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In today's world he would have been fired in 1988, when I was a freshman and we started out 0-6. I was surprised that he kept his job even then.
 
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What years were the 2 SEC champs in the last four years? All I can remeber was the nine in a row that we dropped to Bama
 
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Soory didn't read the post. But keep in mind there was no championship game back then. So could he have beaten bama for the sec any of those years?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
In today's world he would have been fired in 1988, when I was a freshman and we started out 0-6. I was surprised that he kept his job even then.
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In today's environment, I don't know that he would have even made it past about 1982.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Soory didn't read the post. But keep in mind there was no championship game back then. So could he have beaten bama for the sec any of those years?
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You could argue that Phil doesn't win his first SEC Championship without Florida screwing up against other teams. So, I'm not sure I really buy that one.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
He won 2 SEC titles in his last 4 years in Knoxville. :unsure:
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1 of them a perfect 3-way tie and the other earned because Florida was not permitted to be SEC Champion. In fact, his lone other SEC title was won on the same premise as that one.
 
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Try growing up in Bama during Majors reign and then you can understand my feelings toward him as a coach. Especially when he badmouths our team near my hometown. Too bad I wasn't there or i would have beaned him with a big orange.
 
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kptvol said:
You could argue that Phil doesn't win his first SEC Championship without Florida screwing up against other teams. So, I'm not sure I really buy that one.
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Consequently, you could argue Majors gets only 1 split SEC title if Florida doesn't just screw up in general.
 
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I'm sure it's just a concidence that the more UT struggles, the more stories show up about Majors.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Didn't we replace him while he was in the hospital?
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Not exactly . . . He had a contract extension pending and then had heart problems. CPF took over as interim coach and had success and you had two camps spring up. Then Majors returned almost unannounced and too soon and it tore the team apart. Majors has always been bitter and felt like Fulmer took advantage of his health situation to get the job . . . which is certainly possible. The other part of it though was that there were a number of people who were just tired of dealing with Majors in the first place.
 
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GAVol said:
Not exactly . . . He had a contract extension pending and then had heart problems. CPF took over as interim coach and had success and you had two camps spring up. Then Majors returned almost unannounced and too soon and it tore the team apart. Majors has always been bitter and felt like Fulmer took advantage of his health situation to get the job . . . which is certainly possible. The other part of it though was that there were a number of people who were just tired of dealing with Majors in the first place.
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there are a certain few who are going to object to your bringing the other side of this story up GA.
 
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