Some Thoughts Regarding Life On The Hill

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I think that what we have happening on the Hill is actually twofold:

1) We are seeing a coach that is actually learning on the job. Dont throw up La Tech, the Hill is another level, and CDD is treading water right now. He has come tantalizingly close to gaining some signature wins; ie LSU, UNC, even UF this year. He has brought us back to the cusp of respectability. What amazes me is how incredibly snake bit the man seems to be. He has the worst luck of anyone I have ever witnessed and Ive seen my fair share. He is hard luck schelprock in living color. Look at the injuries last year; Hunter in the UF game and then Bray, look at the injuries this year; all the LBs in the spring, a position crucial to a 3-4, then we lose Maggitt to the injury that will not heal until the off season. Say what yo will about Lathers, but he is high character, sub par ability. Now our one true AA candidate comes back from injury and seems to be a pale imitation of what he once was and could be now. When Justin Hunter went alligator arm on a crucial 3rd down, well, you have to wonder if his head in already in the NFL. The guy that specialized in the tough catch, that was fearless, is now doing it for T Tech. Only CDD could lose the most needed offensive weapon days before the season started. Most of CDD's issues seem like just rotten luck on the surface, but there are some issues that point toward OJT/ineptitude. How the Doolander cant rein in CJC and his bizarre play calling moments is beyond me. To many 3rds and short and we go deep. How Cordarrelle isnt in the wildcat is more mystifying than Machu Picchu. That the most electric offensive threat in the SEC doesnt get more touches is criminal (I dont care how much of the playbook he doesnt know and I dont care how sloppy his routes are-get it done, period.). I almost forgot about some more of his crappy luck; DY running with reckless abandon and producing only to fumble at the worst possible time ala' Arian Foster. Not only did he cough it up, he was inches from the sideline and the ball just dies on the turf like a lawn dart. How did it not go OB? But lets not stop at that bad luck, there is even more lurking beneath the surface. Why is DY even the primary ball carrier? Because the most powder puff RB in the league is on the sideline with a twisted ankle, his back up is also injured, and the 3rd string rb? He's getting carries for the big red in Lincoln. That's right, we let him do to pursue Borque, who had the intestinal fortitude of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man and ran home Big Dan rubbernecked him in practice. I swear you cant make this stuff up.

2) If I didnt have to put my kids to bed I would do the research, but I think CDD has a plan. I strongly suspect that he's trying his best to follow Saban's blueprint at MSU. I do know that Saban could not compete with the maize and blue recruiting wise so I believe he must have gone the high character route, with a few rolls of the dice sprinkled in. I am guessing that Saban was looking to develop his program to compete with JRs and SRs. I dont think he was in a position for a quick fix given the circumstances in East Lansing. Its my opinion that CDD probably surveyed the SEC landscape and decided that his only hope to rebuild was in that same manner. I could be wrong and one of you will do the research. I did find this however on ask.com;

Michigan State was not Saban's first head coaching job -- he spent one year at Toledo, leading the Rockets to a 9-2 record in 1990 -- but it was with the Spartans that Saban proved his worth at the major college level. He arrived in 1995 to find a program in shambles, as State had not enjoyed a winning season since 1990. He didn't exactly win big in East Lansing, going 34-24-1 in five seasons, but did coach the Spartans to a 9-2 mark in 1999. He left after the regular season to take the head coaching job at LSU. The Spartans would go on to beat Florida in the Citrus Bowl, finishing 10-2 and ranked in the Top 10.
 
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Interesting write-up OP. Dooley definitely appears to have chronic bad luck. Some of it self-inflicted, some of it... well, just bad luck.
 
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Michigan St. probably was a job that afforded more room for patience. Nice perspective though.
 
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By your third year, you have to make your own luck. People of Tennessee would settle for watching a team that played up to its' potential for 4 quarters....without butchering the maxims in the process.
 
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2) If I didnt have to put my kids to bed I would do the research, but I think CDD has a plan. I strongly suspect that he's trying his best to follow Saban's blueprint at MSU. I do know that Saban could not compete with the maize and blue recruiting wise so I believe he must have gone the high character route, with a few rolls of the dice sprinkled in. I am guessing that Saban was looking to develop his program to compete with JRs and SRs. I dont think he was in a position for a quick fix given the circumstances in East Lansing. Its my opinion that CDD probably surveyed the SEC landscape and decided that his only hope to rebuild was in that same manner. I could be wrong and one of you will do the research. I did find this however on ask.com;

One of my best friends is a Sparty almna; I've seen a ton of MSU football over the past 20 years. There wasn't anything especially high character about the kids Saban took. If anything it was the opposite. Lots of kids end up in East Lansing because they're too risky for UM or OSU; Saban was as happy to take them as every Sparty coach is.
 
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So Rex -- Are you trying to say that Dooley is "over his head"? Or is Dooley what TN actually needed and our fanbase is being impatient? I think Talent will win a lot of games but I think Coaches win SEC games.
 
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I think that what we have happening on the Hill is actually twofold:

1) We are seeing a coach that is actually learning on the job. Dont throw up La Tech, the Hill is another level, and CDD is treading water right now. He has come tantalizingly close to gaining some signature wins; ie LSU, UNC, even UF this year. He has brought us back to the cusp of respectability. What amazes me is how incredibly snake bit the man seems to be. He has the worst luck of anyone I have ever witnessed and Ive seen my fair share. He is hard luck schelprock in living color. Look at the injuries last year; Hunter in the UF game and then Bray, look at the injuries this year; all the LBs in the spring, a position crucial to a 3-4, then we lose Maggitt to the injury that will not heal until the off season. Say what yo will about Lathers, but he is high character, sub par ability. Now our one true AA candidate comes back from injury and seems to be a pale imitation of what he once was and could be now. When Justin Hunter went alligator arm on a crucial 3rd down, well, you have to wonder if his head in already in the NFL. The guy that specialized in the tough catch, that was fearless, is now doing it for T Tech. Only CDD could lose the most needed offensive weapon days before the season started. Most of CDD's issues seem like just rotten luck on the surface, but there are some issues that point toward OJT/ineptitude. How the Doolander cant rein in CJC and his bizarre play calling moments is beyond me. To many 3rds and short and we go deep. How Cordarrelle isnt in the wildcat is more mystifying than Machu Picchu. That the most electric offensive threat in the SEC doesnt get more touches is criminal (I dont care how much of the playbook he doesnt know and I dont care how sloppy his routes are-get it done, period.). I almost forgot about some more of his crappy luck; DY running with reckless abandon and producing only to fumble at the worst possible time ala' Arian Foster. Not only did he cough it up, he was inches from the sideline and the ball just dies on the turf like a lawn dart. How did it not go OB? But lets not stop at that bad luck, there is even more lurking beneath the surface. Why is DY even the primary ball carrier? Because the most powder puff RB in the league is on the sideline with a twisted ankle, his back up is also injured, and the 3rd string rb? He's getting carries for the big red in Lincoln. That's right, we let him do to pursue Borque, who had the intestinal fortitude of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man and ran home Big Dan rubbernecked him in practice. I swear you cant make this stuff up.

2) If I didnt have to put my kids to bed I would do the research, but I think CDD has a plan. I strongly suspect that he's trying his best to follow Saban's blueprint at MSU. I do know that Saban could not compete with the maize and blue recruiting wise so I believe he must have gone the high character route, with a few rolls of the dice sprinkled in. I am guessing that Saban was looking to develop his program to compete with JRs and SRs. I dont think he was in a position for a quick fix given the circumstances in East Lansing. Its my opinion that CDD probably surveyed the SEC landscape and decided that his only hope to rebuild was in that same manner. I could be wrong and one of you will do the research. I did find this however on ask.com;

Damn good post my friend
 
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Good post, but unfortunately you will get torched on this site my friend..However, I do agree that Dooley has a plan, and if Dooley would of started back in the era of Majors and so on, we would probably patiently be waiting to see(look at Majors first four or five seasons) like Majors he struggle first four or five years then his record started improving year after year. Unfortunately, this day and time a coach like Dooley cant survive...I like Dooley, and think he has done some good things with the program considering the state of the program when he came...That being said if you cant win, your not gonna last...Best case is somehow we beat Bama or USCe and win out...That possible? I would like to think so but just dont know....Record to this point, says NO
 
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You know it is possible for Dooley to keep losing and for people to keep making excuses. Just face it, he won't be here next year.
 
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Sorry OP... all that sounds good...But Dooley just isn't Grude enough to actually...WIN
 
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I can guarantee you that Saban never had the talent, in all his years in East Lansing, that Dooley has on this team.
 
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I can guarantee you that Saban never had the talent, in all his years in East Lansing, that Dooley has on this team.

Most likely you are right. He also wasn't coaching in the SEC, during the period of time when the SEC has never been stronger.
 
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I think that what we have happening on the Hill is actually twofold:

1) We are seeing a coach that is actually learning on the job. Dont throw up La Tech, the Hill is another level, and CDD is treading water right now. He has come tantalizingly close to gaining some signature wins; ie LSU, UNC, even UF this year. He has brought us back to the cusp of respectability. What amazes me is how incredibly snake bit the man seems to be. He has the worst luck of anyone I have ever witnessed and Ive seen my fair share. He is hard luck schelprock in living color. Look at the injuries last year; Hunter in the UF game and then Bray, look at the injuries this year; all the LBs in the spring, a position crucial to a 3-4, then we lose Maggitt to the injury that will not heal until the off season. Say what yo will about Lathers, but he is high character, sub par ability. Now our one true AA candidate comes back from injury and seems to be a pale imitation of what he once was and could be now. When Justin Hunter went alligator arm on a crucial 3rd down, well, you have to wonder if his head in already in the NFL. The guy that specialized in the tough catch, that was fearless, is now doing it for T Tech. Only CDD could lose the most needed offensive weapon days before the season started. Most of CDD's issues seem like just rotten luck on the surface, but there are some issues that point toward OJT/ineptitude. How the Doolander cant rein in CJC and his bizarre play calling moments is beyond me. To many 3rds and short and we go deep. How Cordarrelle isnt in the wildcat is more mystifying than Machu Picchu. That the most electric offensive threat in the SEC doesnt get more touches is criminal (I dont care how much of the playbook he doesnt know and I dont care how sloppy his routes are-get it done, period.). I almost forgot about some more of his crappy luck; DY running with reckless abandon and producing only to fumble at the worst possible time ala' Arian Foster. Not only did he cough it up, he was inches from the sideline and the ball just dies on the turf like a lawn dart. How did it not go OB? But lets not stop at that bad luck, there is even more lurking beneath the surface. Why is DY even the primary ball carrier? Because the most powder puff RB in the league is on the sideline with a twisted ankle, his back up is also injured, and the 3rd string rb? He's getting carries for the big red in Lincoln. That's right, we let him do to pursue Borque, who had the intestinal fortitude of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man and ran home Big Dan rubbernecked him in practice. I swear you cant make this stuff up.

2) If I didnt have to put my kids to bed I would do the research, but I think CDD has a plan. I strongly suspect that he's trying his best to follow Saban's blueprint at MSU. I do know that Saban could not compete with the maize and blue recruiting wise so I believe he must have gone the high character route, with a few rolls of the dice sprinkled in. I am guessing that Saban was looking to develop his program to compete with JRs and SRs. I dont think he was in a position for a quick fix given the circumstances in East Lansing. Its my opinion that CDD probably surveyed the SEC landscape and decided that his only hope to rebuild was in that same manner. I could be wrong and one of you will do the research. I did find this however on ask.com;

Just because Dooley has bad luck, doesn't mean that his bad luck is the reason we are losing. I don't think Dooley would be remotely considered a good coach even if every break had gone his way to this point. The guy is just not an SEC coach. Give him this team in the Big East and he is undefeated for sure, but this isn't the big east. The difference between the elite SEC and the good SEC teams is coaching. Everybody has talent in the SEC. The elite teams have that PLUS outstanding coaching.
 
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Most likely you are right. He also wasn't coaching in the SEC, during the period of time when the SEC has never been stronger.

I thought about that, but the Big Ten was arguably the best conference during Saban's time at Mich St. Not as good as the SEC is now, but pretty good in the 90's.
 
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I thought about that, but the Big Ten was arguably the best conference during Saban's time at Mich St. Not as good as the SEC is now, but pretty good in the 90's.

True, Michigan was outstanding at point in time, OSU was very good as well and Penn State was pretty strong as well. I just think that right now the SEC is at it's pinnacle. To add to the OP's point, it's absolutely absurd to consider the depth of our schedule, compared to where it was 5 or 10 years ago. The coaching in this league is unparalleled IMO. Go figure,our biggest rival gets the all time homerun hire with Saban. USCjr is good for the first time in their existence, UGA, while consistently underachieving is established and always brings in top 5-10 recruiting classes. I know we have to win some of these games, but damn if our rivals have never made it more difficult to rebuild and win. These are not excuses, I fully expected to win Saturday and thnk we should've. I really hope we can figure this stuff out.
 
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I think that what we have happening on the Hill is actually twofold:

1)What amazes me is how incredibly snake bit the man seems to be. He has the worst luck of anyone I have ever witnessed and Ive seen my fair share. He is hard luck schelprock in living color.

What are the odds a 45 year old man would fracture his hip water skiing?

2) I do know that Saban could not compete with the maize and blue recruiting wise so I believe he must have gone the high character route, with a few rolls of the dice sprinkled in. I am guessing that Saban was looking to develop his program to compete with JRs and SRs.

Are we talking about the same Saban that signed Plaxico Burress @ MSU?
 
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I can guarantee you that Saban never had the talent, in all his years in East Lansing, that Dooley has on this team.

That and Mich St was on probabtion when Saban took the job I believe. Had some kind of scholarship reduction.
 
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Saban is nowhere near Dooley in terms of coaching ability. You're right Dooley is still learning on the job. Injuries and dismissals happen to every team, its how you respond to them.
 
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