Some of you people just don't get it

[KingtUT]

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[VolFootballlover]

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here kitty kitty

 

[KingtUT]

here kitty kitty

purr

 

[Nashvol2]

sjt18 Bud Your wasting Your Time. The same Bunch of guys defended Dofus till death done them apart! Most have never played a down of Football and don't understand we are not fundamentally a good coached team. It's so easy for weak fans to blame the players rather than a sales man that tells them that Yugo will be as good as a new Honda in a little while. We sent AJ on a blitz once,and Cam once Both Times we destroyed them. When we play chiken little Defense we get Destroyed! Vandy will surprise some on here but Not me. They are well coached!

Lol. AJ was blitzing on the run that went right up the middle where his gap responsibility would have been. He took his eyes off the ball and engaged the lineman for just long enough to take himself out of the play.

 

[DaddyChad]

Again not saying our defense is great, saying it's not nearly as bad as last year's for the idiots throwing around that stupidity. Those aren't great defensive numbers, hell they're terrible but last year's team was a lot worse against an easier schedule.

 

[KingtUT]

MU is NOT a team with elite talent.

they do have a lot more speed though

The OL has underperformed

Were rushing for over 4 yds a carry with average RB's and no passing attack, id say they're doing pretty good

[The combined record of the teams he beat at Cincy was 136-162. He never beat a ranked team while there. He was spanked by Dooley's second team. In three years at Cincy, he beat 6 FBS teams that finished with a winning record out of the 21 FBS teams he beat.

Your reaching real hard to try and make BJ look bad and not mentioning the fact that hes won multiple championships at each level he's coached is only making you look bad.

I will agree that the coaches can improve as long as you can agree that having better players will automatically make this staff better.

 

[VolFootballlover]

Lol. AJ was blitzing on the run that went right up the middle where his gap responsibility would have been. He took his eyes off the ball and engaged the lineman for just long enough to take himself out of the play.

huuu?

 

[VolFootballlover]

purr

lol I needed that , I spit coke all over my screen,lol but it was funny as heck

 

[TNVolunteerGrad]

What do you mean "you people"?

 

[KingtUT]

Use hyperbole much to prove the same BS points the majority of other posters on here are making to avoid the fact that the team has been embarrassed 3 weeks in a row?

Not a single rational person thought this team was top 10 before the season.

Some just expected better effort from the players throughout the year to avoid one humiliating loss after another.

Seemed that expectation of the putting the Dooley years of laying down and taking a beating behind us was too much to expect from Jones and his best staff in America.

lol I needed that , I spit coke all over my screen,lol but it was funny as heck

Trying to figure out how to respond to so many outlandish statements at once. Its tough.

 

[KingtUT]

What do you mean "you people"?

Racist?

 

[Gandalf]

What do you mean "you people"?

what do YOU mean "you people"!

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

You are right...some of you are idiots!! You go away for a weekend and close your eyes!! Please look at what you are saying!! The defense is worse than last years!!!! I guess you are ok with losing all the time. For the salaries these coaches are being paid, we need a little more effort on defense. Oh yes, Jancek was fired at Georgia because he had no clue about defense......Maybe you can go away for another weekend and all this will just go away.....for me, I want to see IMPROVEMENT for the millions the coaches are getting paid!!!!!!

Oh look another stupid post. You make it sound like you are paying the coaches salary. Do us all a favor and try sticking your head up your a** and see if it fits.

 

[SAPPER 5]

I go away for the weekend, knowing that Auburn is going to dominate on Saturday (but secretly hoping for an upset). I come back and its as if the friggen sky is falling because we lost to yet another top 10 team. We are doing the right things, you silly fans however act like turning a totally crappy program into a legendary one can be done near instantaneously and on willpower alone. First you start drinking koolaid and thinking we can "dominate" (not just beat) top 10 teams, then run around like headless chickens and threaten to commit ritual fan suicide because we got owned as expected. I see some of you idiots even saying KY is going to own us for sure.

NEWSFLASH to some of you people - UT IS NOT A TOP 10 TEAM THIS YEAR no matter who is coaching it. Considering this schedule and the lack of depth we have at almost any position, its amazing we have done what we have done so far.

Now I know we all hoped Coach Jones would make some major improvements this year in spite of the garbage heap he was given and the nations most brutal schedule. IMHO he has done so. Out of 10 games so far, 5 have been Top 10 teams and 2 more have been Top 20. Astonishingly, we actually pulled off an upset of a #11 team and allllllmost did so for a #6. But we arent going to upset many or we would actually BE a top 10 team.

I am happy with seeing our offense continue to grow and see that we have some really decent possibilities next year at QB and receivers who can get open even if they havent yet learned to catch the ball. Defense needs some help but then its harder to gauge when they are on the field the whole game against top teams with no replacements. Recruiting is phenomenal, considering our past couple of years.

Now Vandy is not going to be candy this year and only has KY between us and game day but with us getting some rest after playing the friggen giant schedule I think we should be able to be up 3-7 against them and beat KY by 14. That is a real test for us but as decent as Vandy is this year, I think its going to seem like running downhill after what we have been through the last 3 weeks.

At the beginning of the year, any clear eyed analyst would be very happy with the prospect of 6-6 and one big upset. Of course, we thought Auburn would be a walkover this year and nope, even they kickass. So considering - if we go 6-6 this year and head to a bowl game, give all the true freshmen and people time to actually learn new systems, recruit like we are doing right now - in 2-3 years this team WILL be a top 10 team again and a very solid program. Jones is not Dooley part Deux (he has been a winner on his own and not just the son of one). Until then, grow the heck up and temper your expectations with some reality.

Instant VN classic post here. Well done.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

ok Pro, just name 2 posters who said we would be 8-3 or 9-2 ? You are reaching for excuses because we won against SC doesn't prove squat when we get blown out the next 3 games. I keep hearing this Championship coach you yahoos keep talking about who is it? some guy who beat northern and southern schools in the MAC? We fans do not have to be weak and sit on our hands and have a man crush on the staff like some of you. We should always demand that UT be Competitive and in the top 3 in the EAST every Season. Anything Less Is failure on us as Fans! If we are OK with Getting blown out somethings wrong with the culture! Guess what ? we are not ok with it and you should be ashamed to even consider your self a fan if you are! I think every fan on here would agree that if our players Compete for 4 quarters and our coaches strive to give us the best possible game plan we will back them at the gates of Hell!

Saban started out beating some big time teams at Toledo.

 

[FEARinSEC]

The farce is strong with this one.

 

[daj2576]

NEWSFLASH. WHO HERE SAID THEY WERE? Some of us are just absolutely DISGUSTED by the FAILURE to get more out of the available talent and especially on D.

But go ahead with your delusional thinking and strawmen...

Yeah, you get it... right? Getting blown out like FCS homecoming fodder 3 weeks in a row and especially by Mizzou and Aub... is NOT a sign of "major improvements".

Hyperbole much? UF has now been revealed to have been vastly overrated. MU is NOT a team with elite talent. Some of us (ahem) said USCe was a team with as many roster issues as UT had and should be a winnable game.

Me too. The OL has underperformed but there has been growth.

No it isn't. Fatigue isn't beating UT. In spite of the volume of those claiming it is all "speed"... it isn't. This is not a D with elite talent at every position or depth at every position. It is also not a well coached D right now. You can make all the excuses you want but these guys are NOT too slow to fill a gap consistently. They are not too slow to set the edge and turn plays back inside.

Sorry. But no. Elite coaches get the most out of their roster. Six wins is what Dooley did under similar circumstances against a similar schedule. Six wins just leaves questions about the ability of this staff to compete in the SEC.

Auburn has more talent right now than UT. Mizzou does not... UF is a train wreck. UGA was missing much of their O.... Six wins is "average". "Average" coaching will not get UT back to the top of the SEC or national polls.

Not unless the D is getting coached better than this one.

The combined record of the teams he beat at Cincy was 136-162. He never beat a ranked team while there. He was spanked by Dooley's second team. In three years at Cincy, he beat 6 FBS teams that finished with a winning record out of the 21 FBS teams he beat.

I'm not saying he isn't a good coach... the right coach.. or anything of the sort. I am saying that his record isn't as impressive once you really begin to look at the competition he beat.

I AM realistic. THE RULE for new, good coaches is they make an immediate impact on a team's play and win total. Saban to Bama was even an improvement over the previous year in spite of the ULM loss.

If you want to get back to 8 win seasons and middling bowl games then "average" is plenty good enough. Talent will get you back to that level. If you want to see championships then you need to see elite coaching on a CONSISTENT basis along with great talent. We aren't seeing anything in that realm on D right now. Maybe they'll improve... but they're going to have to.

You and I have agreed more often than not, but you have fallen off the deep end lately. I get it, this has been frustrating.

There are too many things that I view as wrong with some of the stuff that you said to hit them all, but let me hit the high points.

You say that huge improvement is expected year one and site Bama under Saban. If memory serves, Bama's regular season record the year before Saban was 6-6. Saban's first regular season was 6-6. I fail to see the huge gains when the only difference, besides an embarrassing loss to La-Monroe (worse than any of our thumping to RANKED opponents) is a bowl win. So one win to you is huge gains? Butch still has the time and talent to improve over last year by at least one game, not counting a bowl.

As you and I know, the only team that we have lost to this year with less talent is Mizzou. Mizzou is doing very well this year, an over performance. It isn't like we are the only team to have lost to Mizzou as they have only lost one game.

As far as your comments on Florida, we agree to a point. We both recognize that is a very talented team confronted with crippling injuries and a sub - par coach. What has happened to them since we played has been spectacular. That doesn't mean that they began as less talented. It means, like Mizzou, something is modifying their talent. You can't site Mizzou as having less talent without also citing Bama, Auburn, Florida and Georgia as having more.

At worst, we are under performing by one game. One game!!! Against a top ten team who has found a way to minimize talent differentials.

You cite Jones' record at Cincy, then the record of opponents. Be fair and cite that he beat Louisville 2 of 3 times (the top of that conference), Recognize also that his first year there he won 4 games while installing his system. After that he over performed based on talent predictions by three games a year WHILE improving his recruiting.

Like I said to begin with, I generally find you reasonable and intelligent. That is rare here. But since Mizzou you seem to have gone off the deep end. It's like you bet your mortgage that UT would win. Go easy. If in three weeks we don't have a record that puts us in position to go bowling, then let's discuss what can be done. Until then...go vols!

Edit: phone is auto - correcting the ish out of me. Sorry for the issues with cite/site and others.

 

[VolinWayne]

You and I have agreed more often than not, but you have fallen off the deep end lately. I get it, this has been frustrating.

There are too many things that I view as wrong with some of the stuff that you said to hit them all, but let me hit the high points.

You say that huge improvement is expected year one and site Bama under Saban. If memory serves, Bama's regular season record the year before Saban was 6-6. Saban's first regular season was 6-6. I fail to see the huge gains when the only difference, besides an embarrassing loss to La-Monroe (worse than any of our thumping to RANKED opponents) is a bowl win. So one win to you is huge gains? Butch still has the time and talent to improve over last year by at least one game, not counting a bowl.

As you and I know, the only team that we have lost to this year with less talent is Mizzou. Mizzou is doing very well this year, an over performance. It isn't like we are the only team to have lost to Mizzou as they have only lost one game.

As far as your comments on Florida, we agree to a point. We both recognize that is a very talented team confronted with crippling injuries and a sub - par coach. What has happened to them since we played has been spectacular. That doesn't mean that they began as less talented. It means, like Mizzou, something is modifying their talent. You can't site Mizzou as having less talent without also citing Bama, Auburn, Florida and Georgia as having more.

At worst, we are under performing by one game. One game!!! Against a top ten team who has found a way to minimize talent differentials.

You cite Jones' record at Cincy, then the record of opponents. Be fair and cite that he beat Louisville 2 of 3 times (the top of that conference), Recognize also that his first year there he won 4 games while installing his system. After that he over performed based on talent predictions by three games a year WHILE improving his recruiting.

Like I said to begin with, I generally find you reasonable and intelligent. That is rare here. But since Mizzou you seem to have gone off the deep end. It's like you bet your mortgage that UT would win. Go easy. If in three weeks we don't have a record that puts us in position to go bowling, then let's discuss what can be done. Until then...go vols!

Edit: phone is auto - correcting the ish out of me. Sorry for the issues with cite/site and others.[/QUOTE



Great post Daj! It is good to see some common sense around here!

 

[Dickel#12Vol]

you are right...some of you are idiots!! You go away for a weekend and close your eyes!! Please look at what you are saying!! The defense is worse than last years!!!! I guess you are ok with losing all the time. For the salaries these coaches are being paid, we need a little more effort on defense. Oh yes, jancek was fired at georgia because he had no clue about defense......maybe you can go away for another weekend and all this will just go away.....for me, i want to see improvement for the millions the coaches are getting paid!!!!!!

cah...

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

You and I have agreed more often than not, but you have fallen off the deep end lately. I get it, this has been frustrating.

There are too many things that I view as wrong with some of the stuff that you said to hit them all, but let me hit the high points.

You say that huge improvement is expected year one and site Bama under Saban. If memory serves, Bama's regular season record the year before Saban was 6-6. Saban's first regular season was 6-6. I fail to see the huge gains when the only difference, besides an embarrassing loss to La-Monroe (worse than any of our thumping to RANKED opponents) is a bowl win. So one win to you is huge gains? Butch still has the time and talent to improve over last year by at least one game, not counting a bowl.

As you and I know, the only team that we have lost to this year with less talent is Mizzou. Mizzou is doing very well this year, an over performance. It isn't like we are the only team to have lost to Mizzou as they have only lost one game.

As far as your comments on Florida, we agree to a point. We both recognize that is a very talented team confronted with crippling injuries and a sub - par coach. What has happened to them since we played has been spectacular. That doesn't mean that they began as less talented. It means, like Mizzou, something is modifying their talent. You can't site Mizzou as having less talent without also citing Bama, Auburn, Florida and Georgia as having more.

At worst, we are under performing by one game. One game!!! Against a top ten team who has found a way to minimize talent differentials.

You cite Jones' record at Cincy, then the record of opponents. Be fair and cite that he beat Louisville 2 of 3 times (the top of that conference), Recognize also that his first year there he won 4 games while installing his system. After that he over performed based on talent predictions by three games a year WHILE improving his recruiting.

Like I said to begin with, I generally find you reasonable and intelligent. That is rare here. But since Mizzou you seem to have gone off the deep end. It's like you bet your mortgage that UT would win. Go easy. If in three weeks we don't have a record that puts us in position to go bowling, then let's discuss what can be done. Until then...go vols!

Edit: phone is auto - correcting the ish out of me. Sorry for the issues with cite/site and others.

Excellent post. Most of the time common sense is prohibited on VN.

 

[orangeluvr]

You are right...some of you are idiots!! You go away for a weekend and close your eyes!! Please look at what you are saying!! The defense is worse than last years!!!! I guess you are ok with losing all the time. For the salaries these coaches are being paid, we need a little more effort on defense. Oh yes, Jancek was fired at Georgia because he had no clue about defense......Maybe you can go away for another weekend and all this will just go away.....for me, I want to see IMPROVEMENT for the millions the coaches are getting paid!!!!!!

Now that was harsh! :birgits_giggle:

 

[ReelfootVol]

The classic statement that us losers have learned to love......wait until next year.

 

[wolfe]

You are right...some of you are idiots!! You go away for a weekend and close your eyes!! Please look at what you are saying!! The defense is worse than last years!!!! I guess you are ok with losing all the time. For the salaries these coaches are being paid, we need a little more effort on defense. Oh yes, Jancek was fired at Georgia because he had no clue about defense......Maybe you can go away for another weekend and all this will just go away.....for me, I want to see IMPROVEMENT for the millions the coaches are getting paid!!!!!!

Agree. Most of the pollyannas on here are nauseatingly obnoxious. For all you UT grads pollyanna means "an excessively or blindly optimistic person".

 

[Nashvol2]

huuu?

We sent AJ on a blitz once,and Cam once Both Times we destroyed them. !

"Lol. AJ was blitzing on the run that went right up the middle where his gap responsibility would have been. He took his eyes off the ball and engaged the lineman for just long enough to take himself out of the play."

I assume that you were complaining that the coaches didn't blitz enough. My point is that would not have been an answer to Auburn's success on offense.

 

[ReelfootVol]

I still think Butch will get it done, IN SPITE OF HIS DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR !!!!