Solving "men on the field" issue:

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i just heard on 104.5 in nashville that we've had penalties for # players on the field for 5 straight games.

and either dooley or another member of the staff said the punt and FG teams will now consist of whoever is on the field on 3rd down. can someone else confirm this?

if true.... it's so LOL bad!! what if we have 6db's in on 3rd and long or short yardage 3rd down personnel? seems to make us vulnerable to fakes... especially when you announce it to all your opponents through the media.

if true... this is reflects incredibly bad on the staff.
 
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why is it bad on the staff that our players are can't remember what teams they're on? Dooley even said he told one player to go on the field and he forgot 2 min later.
 
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utvolpj said:
why is it bad on the staff that our players are can't remember what teams they're on? Dooley even said he told one player to go on the field and he forgot 2 min later.
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They are either bad at counting or bad at teaching. Dunno which one is more desirable.
 
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emainvol said:
They are either bad at counting or bad at teaching. Dunno which one is more desirable.
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some times it is on the staff but if the HC comes up to you and tells you you're on FG block, bama lines up to kick a fg and you're still watching from the sidelines that's on the player.
 
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Horrible. We had to use two timeouts this past game bc there were only 10 players on the field. ESPN even paused the game and counted, it was humiliating
 
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send dooley and wilcox to take some math lessons... ...from the local elementry school. this is a pathetic problem that shouldn't exist. simple as that.
 
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BasketVolKid said:
and either dooley or another member of the staff said the punt and FG teams will now consist of whoever is on the field on 3rd down. can someone else confirm this?
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I heard this too and it definitely needs confirmation. That's saying you are totally incompetent.

I can't believe any HC would state this in public while being serious. Was it said tongue-in-cheek?
 
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i think it shows a lack of discipline. the staff is responsible for getting players to be in the right positions in all facets of the game... adjusting according to reads, using the right technique, etc etc.
 
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utvolpj said:
some times it is on the staff but if the HC comes up to you and tells you you're on FG block, bama lines up to kick a fg and you're still watching from the sidelines that's on the player.
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Does he tell four extra guys to get out there in case somebody forgets then?

Seriously, this leaving the 3rd down guys on for field goals just makes this all look worse for the coaches. Most of these guys were on the team last year and they didn't have this problem
 
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theDeuce said:
I heard this too and it definitely needs confirmation. That's saying you are totally incompetent.

I can't believe any HC would state this in public while being serious. Was it said tongue-in-cheek?
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yah i suppose it could be tongue-in-cheek. it does sound like a sarcastic joke dooley would make.

needs confirmation... it was clay travis that said it... but it wasn't immediately refuted by brent or blaine.
 
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When I was playing college football a couple of years ago. The number of players on the feild was the players fault. Its there responsability to to count the players on special teams, and when they go into the game, they need to tell the player there going in for to avoid to many players. If players didnt know they where supposed to be out there they didnt play, that simple.
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alltitan said:
When I was playing college football a couple of years ago. The number of players on the feild was the players fault. Its there responsability to to count the players on special teams, and when they go into the game, they need to tell the player there going in for to avoid to many players. If players didnt know they where supposed to be out there they didnt play, that simple.
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Nope that can't be it, it's not the players responsibility at all, all the coaches! Fire them all, let them take 3rd grade classes, get them some math books for after hours homework!
 
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Regardless of who its on, either the coach or the players, it shouldn't be a recurring issue
 
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It's definitely embarrassing to say the least. I want to believe in Dooley and this coaching staff, but if we can't even get the right number of players on the field every play, what chance do we have in being successful. This is a fixable problem, I just hope they can get that and a lot of other things straightend out sooner than later. In fact, if UT wants to pay me a coaches salary, I will gladly go with them to every game and count the players on the field for them for every play. I'll just use my fingers and when I run out of fingers and there is one guy extra I didn't count, I'll know we're set.

"Run the play Dooley, you're all good!"
 
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Once again, why is everybody putting all the blame on the coaches and none on the players? If Wilcox calls a formation or set or play, shouldn't the players know if they are supposed to be on the field or not? If Joseph calls a ST set, shouldn't the players know if they are on that team or not? Not saying the coaches are exempt from the blame, but to put it all on them is as stupid as wanting to fire DD and get the 4th head coach in 4 years.
 
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KCVol said:
Once again, why is everybody putting all the blame on the coaches and none on the players? If Wilcox calls a formation or set or play, shouldn't the players know if they are supposed to be on the field or not? If Joseph calls a ST set, shouldn't the players know if they are on that team or not? Not saying the coaches are exempt from the blame, but to put it all on them is as stupid as wanting to fire DD and get the 4th head coach in 4 years.
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We had a brand new system and a brand new offense and defense last year and never had any problems last year. Don't blame the players on this one. This is a coaching issue plain and simple.
 
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KCVol said:
Once again, why is everybody putting all the blame on the coaches and none on the players? If Wilcox calls a formation or set or play, shouldn't the players know if they are supposed to be on the field or not? If Joseph calls a ST set, shouldn't the players know if they are on that team or not? Not saying the coaches are exempt from the blame, but to put it all on them is as stupid as wanting to fire DD and get the 4th head coach in 4 years.
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Nobody is excusing the players from blame. People on this board just have a really bad habit of blaming everyone but Dooley.

The offense sucks its Chaney and the players.
The defense sucks its Wilcox and the players.
Can't get the right personnel out? It's the players and the midget with the abacus standing up on the Gatorade table.

What the hell do we pay Dooley for anyway?
 
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JAllen18 said:
We had a brand new system and a brand new offense and defense last year and never had any problems last year. Don't blame the players on this one. This is a coaching issue plain and simple.
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the responsibility is the coaching staff's, but to absolve the players entirely makes no sense. Surely you don't believe that the coaching staff has ignored this issue or that they aren't emphasizing it at this point.
 
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Where did I make an excuse for new coaches or new system? It all boils down to some want to put all the blame on the coaches because Tenn players couldn't be that stupid to know if they are on or off the field for certain plays, and some want to blame both. Neither side will ever agree so until DD is fired and Tenn goes through this whole painful process again, some will not be happy.

V,B!

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BigPapaVol said:
the responsibility is the coaching staff's, but to absolve the players entirely makes no sense. Surely you don't believe that the coaching staff has ignored this issue or that they aren't emphasizing it at this point.
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Judging by Dooley's comments today, the player's are trying to hail him on radio and he's content letting them sort it out themselves while he helps commit genocide.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
the responsibility is the coaching staff's, but to absolve the players entirely makes no sense. Surely you don't believe that the coaching staff has ignored this issue or that they aren't emphasizing it at this point.
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No, but this has happened almost every game. The staff should have ample time to fix this issue since the LSU game.
 
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emainvol said:
Judging by Dooley's comments today, the player's are trying to hail him on radio and he's content letting them sort it out themselves while he helps commit genocide.
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Aside from the idiocy of this post, Rommel hated Hitler. Thought he was nuts. He was in on the plot to remove him. He was a brilliant commander caught on the wrong side, IMO. From what I've seen, he was in no way a part of, or involved in the Final Solution
 
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jwells said:
Aside from the idiocy of this post, Rommel hated Hitler. Thought he was nuts. He was in on the plot to remove him. He was a brilliant commander caught on the wrong side, IMO. From what I've seen, he was in no way a part of, or involved in the Final Solution
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It was a joke, I thought that was pretty evident.
 
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