So why have no other schools hired Miles?

#76
#76
We have no other schools hired Kiffin? He's so amazing, but UF, MS St., A&M, Ole Miss, UCLA, and Nebraska have all passed on him.

I would guess most big schools have passed on Miles do to his age. Mack Brown, Fulmer, and Bowden pretty much got the same treatment.

Kevin Sumlin isn't getting much love for Power 5 schools either. I'm sure Miles would have a job by now if he was willing to step down to a mid-major conference.
 
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I keep seeing people talk about his age...

Saban Born: October 31, 1951 (age 66)
Miles Born: November 10, 1953 (age 64)

Just say'n...

I don't like his play calling myself... but if he will let his Coordinators coordinate.. than he'll do good.

You can't take way the fact that his record speaks for itself, and while he was at LSU, they were never a push over.
 
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shotgun83 said:
I keep seeing people talk about his age...

Saban Born: October 31, 1951 (age 66)
Miles Born: November 10, 1953 (age 64)

Just say'n...

I don't like his play calling myself... but if he will let his Coordinators coordinate.. than he'll do good.

You can't take way the fact that his record speaks for itself, and while he was at LSU, they were never a push over.
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Great post. I just posted another thread stating the same.
 
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A few weeks ago, I would have turned up my nose at the thought of Miles. At this point, though, expectations have changed and he may be our best option for winning in the near term. I've thought a lot about the stage of his career being a detriment, but really, how long have any of our recent coaches stayed with us anyway? I did some research and found that 77% of NCAA coaches last less than 5 years. So, it's not just us.

He's definitely better than Schiano, or that joker at NC State we offered. I'd be ok with bringing in Miles and then starting a succession plan for 3 or 4 seasons down the road when the pool of available coaches is a bit deeper. It's pretty shallow right now.
 
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I don't want Miles either for several reasons that other people have already stated.

Now THINK people...If we're willing to spend $6 Million to maybe $8 Million per year then why don't we go up to Clemson and steal away Venables?

He's a great D coach and he's really passionate...Just watch him on the sidelines when his Clemson D makes a big play...He's jumping around and screaming all along the sideline and that type of passion definately rubs off on the players on both sides of the ball.

We all know that a great D will WIN Championships.

Get Venables as HC and give him all the $$$$$ he needs to go hire great O and D coordinators and great position coaches that are also great recruiters and we'll be golden for may years to come.

There's zero serious reasons to settle for a 3 to 5 year stopgap coach and then be hiring a new HC all over again.

Spend the $$$ and hire the right HC now and get on with it!

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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shotgun83 said:
I keep seeing people talk about his age...

Saban Born: October 31, 1951 (age 66)
Miles Born: November 10, 1953 (age 64)

Just say'n...

I don't like his play calling myself... but if he will let his Coordinators coordinate.. than he'll do good.

You can't take way the fact that his record speaks for itself, and while he was at LSU, they were never a push over.
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The age isn't the issue. Not sure why that's lost on so many. Saban took the Bama job in 2007. He was 56 at the time. Saban is nearing the end of his illustrious career not starting anew like Miles would be. Despite that fact, Miles is not being asked to be a 10 year guy. He's simply giving a few years to stabilize and help Fulmer restore some order to the brand and reestablish some respect for the program.
 
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Because he showed an unwillingness to change on offense when it wasn’t working.

He could be very successful with Tee at OC if Miles let him really run that side.
 
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Duckyvol59 said:
Please help me understand why people want Tee as AHC that title means nothing. Hoke had it this year. Also the coach in waiting thing. What if he comes in as OC and stinks it up and the HC gets fired are we stuck with him. Let him (tee or whomever) EARN their title.
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Good question. I was cold to the thought of bringing Tee back at first. Tee is proving that he can run an effective offense on the biggest of stages. His head coach has stated that Tee has come a long way as an offensive coordinator and game planner and is doing a great job. Tee is an EXCELLENT recruiter. He has proven that he’s a winner on the field. I would bring Tee in as OC/AHC and let him continue to grow. He could eventually be our future head coach.
 
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Tarkus said:
Probably because he ran an outdated offense that didn't work and was so stubborn, he let it cost him his job. He had talent, at least, equal to Alabama and was 3-7 against Saban. If he couldn't win a championship with that talent, how will he with a lesser roster?
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Yep, we need something more modern than the antiquated offenses that use a FB, TE. Gotta go with that slick read option that everyone is running.
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
I don't want Miles either for several reasons that other people have already stated.

Now THINK people...If we're willing to spend $6 Million to maybe $8 Million per year then why don't we go up to Clemson and steal away Venables?

He's a great D coach and he's really passionate...Just watch him on the sidelines when his Clemson D makes a big play...He's jumping around and screaming all along the sideline and that type of passion definately rubs off on the players on both sides of the ball.

We all know that a great D will WIN Championships.

Get Venables as HC and give him all the $$$$$ he needs to go hire great O and D coordinators and great position coaches that are also great recruiters and we'll be golden for may years to come.

There's zero serious reasons to settle for a 3 to 5 year stopgap coach and then be hiring a new HC all over again.

Spend the $$$ and hire the right HC now and get on with it!

VFL...GBO!!!
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I love defensive coaches. Venables has clearly proven he’s a great D coordinator. I read somewhere else that he’s not interested in a HC position. He likes coaching and teaching defense to the kids.
 
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ArmyVol697 said:
First, he's younger than Saban. Second, he's a great coach and just because other schools are not jumping on him, it doesn't mean squat. If he brings Chavis back, we are golden!
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What did Chavis do at Texas A & M....he got Sumlin fired. Chavis is old school....he can stop a power I formation only. Has no clue how to stop a modern spread offense.
 
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Evergrenevol said:
I love defensive coaches. Venables has clearly proven he’s a great D coordinator. I read somewhere else that he’s not interested in a HC position. He likes coaching and teaching defense to the kids.
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Miles, Martin, and Venables? Dare to dream...
 
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VolsFan-TX said:
He is 64. Saban is 66. If he can coach, I don't care if he is 24 or 74. The man would need to assemble an excellent staff and then let the coordinators do their jobs.
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Problem is.... LSU fired him for consistently squandering massive talent because he CANNOT coach.

He's even WORSE at assembling then leading a staff. He probably did even more than Jones to suppress NFL talent on O.
 
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Have you seen the way Miles handles Game & Clock Management? It’s terrible.

Hell he makes Butch look like a damn genius.
 
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Vol$_Deep_11_9 said:
In the last 3 years or so with Les Miles at LSU he was an offensive coordinator away from being really good IMO. He can recruit and he can develop IMO. Give him a good staff and he’ll be just fine here. If the rumors of Tee and Chavis/Steele are true I think that’ll be solid.
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Cam Cameron killed Miles. Look at all the NFL players that left there. The vast majority of them were defensive players. Cam simply could not develop the QB's they had for what ever reason.
 
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Bluetic said:
Cam Cameron killed Miles. Look at all the NFL players that left there. The vast majority of them were defensive players. Cam simply could not develop the QB's they had for what ever reason.
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That's like saying Scott killed Jones. Both HC's demanded that their system be run their way.

Miles didn't have a great O the whole time he was there. He famously could not find or develop QB's.
 
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#100
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Age is the only reason. With his knowledge of the SEC surrounded with quality coaches, he is exactly what our program needs right now.
 
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