So why have no other schools hired Miles?

[chattavegasvolfan]

Miles went into a hornets nest following Saban at LSU, he could not do anything right and still won big. Two years after being named head coach at LSU it got extremely intense for him when Saban was named head coach at Bama, and he still won in the face of daily criticism, in the SEC West, because he was not Nick Saban.

UT needs a head coach of steel to stabilize the program. There are only 2 other head coaches who could right the ship at UT and they aren't coming, Saban and Meyer.

Yup, and he will see the same thing here because his name isn't Jon Gruden.....:whistling:

I find it amusing the fact that people find issue with ever single coach that is mentioned. Hell, Chris Peterson is the best coach not named Meyer or Saban that is out there, and you would have people say things like "He got killed and out coached by Saban last year in the playoffs", "He has had all his success in weaker conferences, no way he could do it in the SEC"...and on and on and on.

Miles is a solid coach, and would be a great fit here.

 

[NickZ4UT]

Miles won a National Championship and several conference titles. Yet, to my knowledge no one has reached out to hire him. Why?

A lot of it has to do with his age. Also he may have been approached about different jobs and turned them down, we don't know. Most schools at this point either want a coach in his prime or a young up and comer who can build a legacy, a guy like Miles doesn't have much of a place in college football at 64 years old. Tennessee however is in a position and a point in it's history tailor made to justify hiring a guy like Miles.

We need stability in the program, Fulmer has started that process and Miles would be seen as a big step in righting the ship. If you get Tee Martin on board you have a coach in waiting built in to your staff. That's what Miles would be doing, getting Tee ready to take over the program, while elevating our level of play. Miles isn't a guy to build a program with, but he's perfect for what we need over the next 3 years.

 

[Volunteer_Kirby]

If you hire Miles it will be Jones part 2 !!!!! Actually Jones had a much better offense than you will see with Miles.

Maybe... Jones was a joke in the red zone. Like one of the worst Ive ever seen in P5 ball. I think Miles would be much better in that regard. The sooner you realize Dobbs, Malone & AK hid a lot of problems with Jones' playcalling the better off we will be moving forward. We've got a lot of disillusionment in the fanbase right now. Also people who talk about 2016 yards per game being a historical high for TN, yall need to realize a big reason for that was the big 3 above and *the sheer amount of plays we ran per game*. It's only natural to have more yards per game if you are running 10-15 more plays a game than in years past.

 

[jakez4ut]

Well...first, there's his age. Second, other schools aren't desperate due to a disastrous, failed coaching search that damaged the brand to the point they'd have no other option but to hire a coach that likely will step away from the game in 3-5 years leading to yet another search/change. Most schools want a longer term solution. UT isn't in the greatest position right now. Maybe Fulmer being the AD will change the dynamic. Remains to be seen what kind of candidate our damaged brand can attract.

pretty much this. our situation is unique, and makes it a lot more permissible to make a hire like Les Miles.

it's situational awareness.

when we fired butch jones, i was against Les Miles with pretty much ever fiber of my being. but that was when i thought we were going to do a legitimate search.

a month later, Les Miles makes a lot of sense. it's our situation that makes him a consideration. and the reason no one has hired him or is contacting him at the P5 level is likely due to age, and most wanting a long term solution.

we're in a mess, and a short term fix could be the way to go. especially if you can get Tee Martin to come with.

 

[jakez4ut]

A lot of it has to do with his age. Also he may have been approached about different jobs and turned them down, we don't know. Most schools at this point either want a coach in his prime or a young up and comer who can build a legacy, a guy like Miles doesn't have much of a place in college football at 64 years old. Tennessee however is in a position and a point in it's history tailor made to justify hiring a guy like Miles.

We need stability in the program, Fulmer has started that process and Miles would be seen as a big step in righting the ship. If you get Tee Martin on board you have a coach in waiting built in to your staff. That's what Miles would be doing, getting Tee ready to take over the program, while elevating our level of play. Miles isn't a guy to build a program with, but he's perfect for what we need over the next 3 years.

yep.

 

[sjt18]

Because most know that Miles capitalized on a great recruiting location but isn't a very good coach. He struggles to hire or lead a winning staff.

Miles would probably be the worst hire UT could make out of the names being kicked around. Why hire a coach if you have to handcuff him to prevent him from inhibiting the coordinators you hire to work for him?

 

[kayman1]

Same reason no one hired Fulmer after we fired him!! Game has passed him by!!

 

[MrVol]

He's too old and I remember him losing games at the end with mistakes or poor clock management.

 

[JMSqb11]

Easy. Les was holding out for UT.

 

[volcop1]

Possibly so, but the same thing could be said about the guy we just hired as the new AD.

We’re in damage control and need quick solutions.

yea, he had Tajh Boyd committed to the Vols, what a failure

 

[NickZ4UT]

If you hire Miles it will be Jones part 2 !!!!! Actually Jones had a much better offense than you will see with Miles.

You're right, Les Miles only fell out of bed into 10 wins a season, while Jones carried us to 8 wins a year, we should just be happy with 6-8 win seasons because we suck.

 

[ReelfootVol]

Easy. Les was holding out for UT.

Exactly............he even started campaigning for the job. Who ever heard of a reputable coach start campaigning for a job when every school in the country has overlooked you as a coach for years and years.

 

[Teeman]

Michigan knew who they wanted and actually got him. Les wasn't considered as there was no need to.

Before Harbaugh. Like taking Brady Hoke when Miles was doing well at LSU. Supposedly, there is bad blood between Miles and Michigan. I want to know what it is and I want to know exactly what happened at OK State.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

Pretty much the same reasons no one was interested in hiring Fulmer.

Both were/are too stubborn to grow with the game and it left them behind.

 

[ArmyVol697]

Well...first, there's his age. Second, other schools aren't desperate due to a disastrous, failed coaching search that damaged the brand to the point they'd have no other option but to hire a coach that likely will step away from the game in 3-5 years leading to yet another search/change. Most schools want a longer term solution. UT isn't in the greatest position right now. Maybe Fulmer being the AD will change the dynamic. Remains to be seen what kind of candidate our damaged brand can attract.

First, he's younger than Saban. Second, he's a great coach and just because other schools are not jumping on him, it doesn't mean squat. If he brings Chavis back, we are golden!

 

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

I’d say it’s because his best days are behind him.

This!

 

[TennTom]

I don't understand the bashing of Miles. Take away the first 4 years of "Saban recruits" of Miles tenure, and he still had a record of 70-23 (.753) in the toughest division in college football and finished those last 7 years with an SEC title, another championship run, and 6 top 25 finishes. Comparing him to Botch Jones is baffling idiocy. Hell, Kiffin's fanboys want to erect a statue for him for a 65% college winning percentage with a ring in the kiddie division.

 

[basspond]

If you hire Miles it will be Jones part 2 !!!!! Actually Jones had a much better offense than you will see with Miles.

Do you really believe this? Jones was awful at recognizing and developing talent. On top of his offensive scheme was a complete failure without a few NFL caliber players to improvise and create some success.
I cannot look at Miles 114-34 record in the SEC west and by any stretch put him in the same box a BJ. Talk about an unsubstantiated insult. Not even close.

 

[BearBryant]

Miles won a National Championship and several conference titles. Yet, to my knowledge no one has reached out to hire him. Why?

Interestingly, there’s another coach we know who was fired who also had won a national championship, SEC titles and no one reached out to him either. Care to guess who?

I have known Phil a long time. I always thought highly of him. However, when he was named head coach of the Vols, I wasn’t so sure he was the right guy. What I failed to realize was that he was surrounded by great coaches. He had great coaches like Cutcliffe, Chavis, Kippy, Dan Brooks, etc.

Miles could also do well if he is surrounded with great coaches. Hopefully, we can recreate the magic of ‘98.

Because who wants a coach that prefers QB's that can't pass?

 

[endzone79]

I read that the Purdue passed because he was more interested in Houston. Houston couldn’t afford the assistants he wanted. 2 million for Venables. My guess his demands are crazy. Other SEC schools seem to have their next coach on standby. Who didn’t think Florida would get Mullen? I do k ow based off the podcast Les is hungry to beat Saban.

 

[perico]

Bigger question is, why was Michigan never interested in him as a head coach? Played there and was an assistant for years on some pretty good teams. I would assume after LSU people didn't like his lack of offense and assumed he was done coaching. Also, some schools may have passed on him because of the allegations at OK State.

Because he turned them down in a public and humiliating fashion, and unlike us, they don’t embarrass themselves by throwing money at a Gundy every coaching search.

 

[jpope9]

Probably because he ran an outdated offense that didn't work and was so stubborn, he let it cost him his job. He had talent, at least, equal to Alabama and was 3-7 against Saban. If he couldn't win a championship with that talent, how will he with a lesser roster?

atleast he beat Saban more than once, how many coaches can claim that?

 

[Jaws]

He’s 64 years old and had become increasingly ineffective.

Not the type of guy UT needs.

 

[CAVPUT]

First, he's younger than Saban. Second, he's a great coach and just because other schools are not jumping on him, it doesn't mean squat. If he brings Chavis back, we are golden!

He's younger than Saban but Saban is nearing a time when he's ready to walk away not restart his career. Won't be surprised to see him retire if he wins another title this year. Look, age isn't such a big deal, but let's be real here. Miles isn't and isn't intended to be a long term solution. If they can't get one of their younger choices to tackle the job, they'll give it to Miles and let him lay the groundwork for our next hire in 3-5 years. It would be as if we hired an up and comer who failed, but Miles can steady the ship and leave a nice opening for the next guy. Eventually, the years catch us all. Remember, only time is undefeated.

 

[JMSqb11]

yea, he had Tajh Boyd committed to the Vols, what a failure

Would have been all about coaching. Boyd did well is a Spread System at Clemson. Kiffin wasn't running a spread. Would have loved to seen Kiffin coach Simms/Bray (both he recruited).

My bigger beef with Kiffin in terms of recruiting is running off Alshon Jeffrey.