So who is coaching QB's

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With all the stuff said about whether Debord is a good oc or not it seem that a qb coach has been lost in the conversation . Do I like the oc hire ? No . Does it matter ? No. What does matter is that the most important thing going into next year is developing Dobbs and the 3 freshman Qb's . Dobbs only negative is deep passing . We have 3 fr Qb's that all need work in different areas . So unless Mahoney is gone to make room for a Qb coach this move makes no sense .
 
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Yeah, the official release says that DeBord will coach QBs. He's never been a QB coach. Given our lack of experience at the position and how much this offense already seems to struggle when the QB isn't making big plays, that's the most worrisome thing to me. I mean, really, it seems borderline insane. But surely, Butch knows something we don't.
 
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Me, i got the call yesterday. I met Debord at a highschool swim meet and the rest is history. I was also the 3rd string QB at Fort Hays st
 
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Nick Sheridan (GA) will be strongly assisting Debord with QBs.

With a QB coaching background, he will be able to help both the players and Debord with development at the QB position.
 
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He did coach quarterbacks for a couple years, although it was at a small school. I didn't know that before today. That eases my mind a little. Sheridan won't be here forever. Hopefully he and Debord will be attached at the hip while he is, and he can teach Debord everything he knows about the position. I've not been as worried as most about Debord's ability to teach an offense and call plays. My biggest concern was can he develop a quarterback. Can he teach throwing motion, footwork, Etc.
 
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Ethan Hooper said:
He did coach quarterbacks for a couple years, although it was at a small school. I didn't know that before today. That eases my mind a little. Sheridan won't be here forever. Hopefully he and Debord will be attached at the hip while he is, and he can teach Debord everything he knows about the position. I've not been as worried as most about Debord's ability to teach an offense and call plays. My biggest concern was can he develop a quarterback. Can he teach throwing motion, footwork, Etc.
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He coached QBs, along with OL and WRs, for two years (about 30 years ago) at Fort Hays State. I don't think that should ease anyone's mind.
 
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Butch will talk a good game and some how make this seem like a great hire , but you can talk good about a turd, and you can color a turd orange, but at the end of the day, the turd is still gonna stink.
 
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Am I saying he is the same caliber of QB coach as someone like Cutcliffe or Spurrier? No. I'm still concerned about it. I simply stated that the fact that he has been around quarterbacks eases my mind A LITTLE. It means that he does have a little experience teaching the things like throwing motion and footwork.
 
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This is my biggest worry with this hire. CBJ has proven me wrong before so I will reserve judgment, but he either knows something no one else does or this whole thing is insane.
 
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someone help me. the op is not a Debord fan and he is worried about the deep ball. how does one teach you to throw, you either can or cannot do it. if you cant practice until you can. a coach telling you to throw deep no matter if its peyton's OC can't make him throw deeper.
 
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Sheridan will be really the main QB coach. I don't think its a great hire, but hey trying to stay positive.

Good: OL coach most of his career and we now have some actual depth on the OL. I think we should see a drastic improvement on OL and running game in general. This basically is a hire that keeps in the game plan and means no changes to the O.

Bad: Not calling plays in recent years, but trusting Butch to put together game plan. He didn't coach QB's but certainly had some good ones over the years that seem to like him and say good things about him.

Now that he is hired will not say bad stuff until after game 1. This means Butch believes he can win now and wanted to bring in someone he trusts to not rock the boat.

Do I need to say check my stats or something? Seems to be a thing now on VN.
 
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smokey0625 said:
His OC though. Can't tell me that the OC doesn't work with the qb's.
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Thats great but we dont have a Tom Brady on our team. We have at least 3 if not 4 DT QB's. Brady rushed for -150 yards in college and was coached to a 6th round draft pick. Imo Butch Jones has lost his dang mind. Time will tell but imo this is an horrendous hire. Austin Kendall has to be excited knowing that the qb coach at Fort Hays State 30 years ago would be his qb coach at Tennessee. Butch is tenacious but other then that I'm not convinced of his decision making.
 
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After reading these posts it seems most think bc you're a OC you only work with your position that your title says. OCs work with all positions as the "supervisor" of the offense. He's worked with every QB he's had since becoming an OC/HC. What made Cutcliffe so good was his attention to detail, the little things. Cutcliffe didn't teach Ainge a whole new offense but changed his mental make up. Let's not make coaching QB rocket science, bc it's not. However, you do need ability to relate to players and be organized in your coaching. I'd say Debored will coach what was already being coached last year with his own flavor to it.
 
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Nick Sheridan (GA) will be strongly assisting Debord with QBs.

With a QB coaching background, he will be able to help both the players and Debord with development at the QB position.
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I feel pretty good about Sheridan; just read his bio at UTSports. I sat immediately behind the UT sideline during the UTC game this past season. I was more interested in everything going on off the field than I was the game. Sheridan was with the QBs the whole time, looked intense about what he was doing.

I suspect this would be the last year UT could keep Sheridan as a GA, I believe there is a 2 year limit. Hope they can find him a paid position next year. Seems like a good coach to have on staff.
 
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Some of you really undervalue what goes into actually coaching a QB. "How hard is it to throw?" Really? Such a stupid question. First, you have to have the proper mechanics. The least little problem in your mechanics, like dropping a shoulder too low, can create inaccuracy. QBs have to be drilled consistently on their mechanics, on their footwork, on their timing. The QB drives the offense. It's the QB coach's job to look for the tiniest thing that could throw him off. And all that is before you get into the mental aspects of the game. A quality QB coach is very important, especially when the back ups to your starter are all freshmen.

DeBord as an OC may work out fine, but DeBord as a QB coach will not. If these QBs don't fall flat, the credit will belong to Sheridan, though he'll probably never get it. I just hope Sheridan is up for the task. I know he has prior experience, I just hope it pays off.
 
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Ethan Hooper said:
Am I saying he is the same caliber of QB coach as someone like Cutcliffe or Spurrier? No. I'm still concerned about it. I simply stated that the fact that he has been around quarterbacks eases my mind A LITTLE. It means that he does have a little experience teaching the things like throwing motion and footwork.
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When Cutcliffe first coached QB's here he was a grad assistant.
 
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