So Dooley's message to recruits is?

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People loose things tragically every day. The difference is some people (GJ) uses these losses to make excuses for their own shortcomings and others step up to the plate and grow from the experience.
 
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volumnus said:
Dooley isn't as popular with players and staff as people think. Over at that OMV forum, it's a constant Dooley lovefest. I know several folks in the athletic department. Their opinion is that Dooley is very arrogant and micromanages everyone and everything. As a result, he has gained the reputation of being a prick, which might be okay if you had Nick Saban's track record of success. I challenge you to pay close attention when players talk about UT. They never compliment Dooley himself. If they say something positive, it's ALWAYS about their position coach. They try to direct attention away from the perceived contribution of the head coach. I give him three years, and he'll be gone. We'll hover around .500, and that'll be that. Personally I think it was a bad hire, given his lack of success in the WAC, but the jury is still out. We will have to wait and see.
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I don't buy this at all. Sure he pobably micro manages, but good coaches do. Every time I hear a player speak, he talks about how much Dooley and Co. seem to care about them as people. The statement that players direct attention away from CDD is just flat out false. We also have an entire staff of great coaches in which half of them have been offered other jobs. All stayed.
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Volz2ThaWall said:
What did he say about Auburn to sell him that outweighed anything he said about UT
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That is a good question?
But IF what GJ is saying is true, I still have just a couple more.
1) Who gave GW his phone number?
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2) What was that persons motive for doing so?
 
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VegasVol said:
Exactly. Basically, this sounds like Tiny wasn't privy to any Jones conversation, and got some sort of third-person hearsay from Gabe Wright, who we know is a beacon of reliability.
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Wrong, which is flabbergasting to me.
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Trooper said, "I am pretty tight with GJ, I will give Wright his number so he can hear good things about Auburn from a Tennessee player."
 
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Sry if this has been asked already but with GJ not getting a combine invite & as much money as AU's been slinging around lately, do any of y'all think TT could have gave GJ a nice check for telling GW some negative things about UT? In a way it kinda makes sense. GJ is watching a lot of guys he knows getting ready for draft & having lots of money now that they have agents. With GJ more than likely going undrafted, I could see him taking $10,000 or so to tell a few lies to a recruit. Just a thought. I wouldn't put it past TT
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VegasVol said:
He said ZERO negative about UT. Confirmed the same on the radio today. He comes across as honest, and still vouching for "all that's great" about UT despite losing his recruiter, losing his offensive coordinator, then losing his head coach, then losing his 2nd head coach, and likely looking at no NFL future. That actually is quite the endorsement for the program -- that he would still "have only positive things to say" about UT after all that.
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i wasnt there so i dont know what was said by jones...but i have read where tiny and gabe had a pact to both commit to ut..then came the phone call and gabe goes elsewhere...why would tt have one of his potential recruits call a ut player unless he new what would be said???????
 
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rsm said:
i wasnt there so i dont know what was said by jones...but i have read where tiny and gabe had a pact to both commit to ut..then came the phone call and gabe goes elsewhere...why would tt have one of his potential recruits call a ut player unless he new what would be said???????
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Exactly, you weren't there...neither was VegasVol. At least you understand not being there hinders you from knowing the whole story. This whole thread is predicated on VV stating as fact, something that he couldn't possibly know for sure. Solid.
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winchestervol63 said:
Many on this board are running around like a bunch of fifteen year old girls because somebody said that GJ talked to a couple of recruits (one of whom chose UT and one of whom didn't). We don't know what was said, but it's imagined that he ran down UT because, well, that makes it an exciting story to complain about. So many imagine something sinister when there are no facts or even any evidence that indicates Jones said a single negative thing about UT.

How is it so hard to believe that GJ did exactly what we would have imagined him doing - just telling the truth and generally supporting UT? Are we sure that he was running UT down because Gabe Wright chose the (NC) Auburn Tigers? So, we think we can beat Auburn for every recruit we want except for that meddling Gerald Jones?

There's not a fact in sight, but many here know what happened and that it's awful for UT. This whole duscussion is stupid.
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I have to say, this and the OP hit the nail on the head. The kid stuck it out for 4 years through the most turbulent time in UT history and gave it his all on the field when he wasn't injured. I'm more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt about what he said. As far as the NCAA, it's a case of the "move along, nothing to see here." Recruits talk to current players all the time, on OVs and not on OVs.
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AJeray4TN said:
Exactly, you weren't there...neither was VegasVol. At least you understand not being there hinders you from knowing the whole story. This whole thread is predicated on VV stating as fact, something that he couldn't possibly know for sure. Solid.
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It's called relying on reliable information, the kind you could actually allow in a court-room for example. There's reliable information -- information directly from one of the of the participants who has no history of giving false information and who stayed loyal to Tennessee through hellfire and high-water; and then there's information from anonymous internet message boards relaying bits and pieces of hearsay they heard from someone who heard it from someone else who in turn heard it from someone else who in turn heard it from someone else, and along that chain of "reliability" are people who have done nothing to earn the trust that Jones has.
 
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It's funny how everyone wants to speculate that it was indeed without a doubt TT that gave GW GJ's number. Theres no way that GW could have gotten it from anybody while he was visiting UT or that he could have gotten it from other recruits like Byron Moore and D Arnett. I wonder what would happen to this board if TT wasn't behind any of this.
 
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Volz2ThaWall said:
It's funny how everyone wants to speculate that it was indeed without a doubt TT that gave GW GJ's number. Theres no way that GW could have gotten it from anybody while he was visiting UT or that he could have gotten it from other recruits like Byron Moore and D Arnett. I wonder what would happen to this board if TT wasn't behind any of this.
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read the comments from Richardson and tell me anything you just typed makes sense
 
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Sounds like Richardson is out to get a former player of the University to which he just committed. Makes sense.
 
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VegasVol said:
It's called relying on reliable information, the kind you could actually allow in a court-room for example. There's reliable information -- information directly from one of the of the participants who has no history of giving false information and who stayed loyal to Tennessee through hellfire and high-water; and then there's information from anonymous internet message boards relaying bits and pieces of hearsay they heard from someone who heard it from someone else who in turn heard it from someone else who in turn heard it from someone else, and along that chain of "reliability" are people who have done nothing to earn the trust that Jones has.
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Believe it or not, over 80 words in one sentence still does nothing to prove your point. I'm not saying he did or didn't do anything, but to act like you can recite with 100% certainty the facts of this story is absurd. Then again, he's a Fulmer recruit, so obviously he's telling the truth, huh?
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Volz2ThaWall said:
It's funny how everyone wants to speculate that it was indeed without a doubt TT that gave GW GJ's number. Theres no way that GW could have gotten it from anybody while he was visiting UT or that he could have gotten it from other recruits like Byron Moore and D Arnett. I wonder what would happen to this board if TT wasn't behind any of this.
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What would be the incentive for Moore or Arnett to randomly connect Wright with Jones?
 
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Idk maybe because Wright wanted to talk to GJ and Moore and Arnett have Gabes number and I'm sure GJ's number. And its not randomly, both moore and arnett were calling wright almost daily weeks before signing day to talk.
 
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Why would a DT want to talk to a WR about a Coach that wasn't even recruiting him and won't even be his position coach?
 
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While GJ has a relationship with TT, his ONLY opinion should have been given to TT. It should have been a very reasonable, "Thanks, but I would prefer NOT to get involved". " I know my coaches are recruiting GW and I should not get involved unless he is here on an official visit and the coaches have assigned me to do so." TT hung GJ out to dry, and could have cared less. GJ chose to make a comment, and in doing so has destroyed anything he had accomplished at Tennessee. Hope he feels it was worth it. I'm sure TT would like to give him a nice ole chest bump for landing his recruit for him.
 
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VegasVol said:
So you're saying Tiny was on the phone when Jones talked to Wright, eh? You and he must have psychic abilities.
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I'm saying I know more about it than you do and enough to say you have no idea what you're talking about.
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#100
#100
I wonder just how well TT took care of GJ....... GJ's doesn't have a church that's about to get upgraded is it?
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