So did we beat UAB?

#5
#5
No worse than Rick. They both threw a TD. I thought the offense moved more easily downfield with Ainge in. Rick insists on throwin to the backs and never looks downfield.
 
#7
#7
Originally posted by U-T@Sep 7, 2005 11:45 PM
So I am guessing Ainge didnt play well?
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He started off pretty good, but then they did the rotation thing, and Ainge was never the same afterwards. The offense sputtered most of the day, but could have put another 10-14 points on the board easily.

For all the dogging Ainge has gotten this week, I will say he made a great throw to Meacham on the post, only to have the UAB db make a great play on it. That was a td, for sure.

 
#8
#8
It seemed like the only time the offense really moved was under Ainge's first two drives... After that Ainge made a few good plays but mostly sucked, and Clausen was a more efficient passer but the offense still felt choppy the whole game after that first bit.
 
#9
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Originally posted by Jmxvol@Sep 7, 2005 11:46 PM
No worse than Rick. They both threw a TD. I thought the offense moved more easily downfield with Ainge in.
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:huh:
 
#11
#11
How about it was Riggs and his running ability! That TD pass Ainge threw was so wobbley(sp) it's not even funny!
 
#12
#12
Is this your 1st post since?I can't check it ,it so goood to see you are ok!!!!!!!
 
#13
#13
Originally posted by milohimself@Sep 8, 2005 1:22 AM
During the first two drives with Ainge was when the offense moved the best.
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I don't know what game you saw.

Ainge:
1) 8 plays - 49 yds - FG
2) 6 plays - 33 yds - TD
3) 4 plays - 23 yds - INT
4) 5 plays - 14 yds - PUNT
5) 3 plays - 0 yds - INT
26 plays - 119 yds - 2 INT's, 11.4 ypc, 4.6 ypp, 1 TD, 1 FG

1 Dropped pass cost a FG instead of TD

Clausen:
1) 11plays - 50 yds - MISS FG
2) 10plays - 80 yds - TD
3) 9 plays - 58 yds - DOWNS
4) 13plays - 50 yds - INT
5) 6 plays - 67 yds - END OF GAME
49 plays - 305 yds 1 INT, 6.2 ypp, 12.8 ypc, 1 TD, 1 MFG

INT for Clausen killed 1 TD
End of game Killed another drive for points

Clausen's shortest Drive was longer than Ainge's Longest Drive.

 
#15
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Originally posted by Jmxvol@Sep 8, 2005 12:46 AM
No worse than Rick. They both threw a TD. I thought the offense moved more easily downfield with Ainge in. Rick insists on throwin to the backs and never looks downfield.
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Excuse me but if your going to throw out crap you can at least try and know what you are talking about.

#1. Clausen goes thru is progressions twice as fast as Ainge
#2. If his recievers are covered he knows to dump off and get positive yardage. Ainge still tries and forces the ball and UT either gets no yardage, Incomplete or and INT, sometimes he gets the ball in their.
#3. Clausen had the same plays called for him that Ainge did and when the receiver was covered he dumped it off.
Those are facts live with it
#4. One of the things Ainge needs to learn in order to be a starter again is to Dump the ball off when the receivers downfield are covered.
#5. Ainge has to get better at the mental side of the game if he wants to start.


As for the argument he got screwed up when removed from the game. BULL, Ainge knew what was going to happen. It's not like it was a new thing, it happen all last year. If it bothered him that much he shouldn't be starting at all. Clausen was taken out twice for Ainge to come back. Wow it really affected Clausen HUH?

As for UT needs to throw deep, BULL
UT is not now and never has been a team that constantly throws 60 and 70 yard passes and I have followed them for almost 40 years. When UT is at its best including the Manning years they throw the ball 15 to 25 yards and the receiver has done the rest. If UT has to throw the ball 60 and 70 yards they are getting beat! Peyton Manning to Joey Kent vs Alabama for a 70+ yard TD to start the game was an 18 yard pass that went the distance and loosened up the defense. What about the pass at UF from Clausen to Banks 50 yard air it out at the Half which is one of the longest in air passes UT throws.

Production over Potential

As for the game it was a typical UT opener and a normal opener for a Fulmer team.

1987 UT 23 Iowa 22, Final Record 10 – 2 – 1, Final Ranking 17
1989 UT 17 Colorado State 14, Final Record 11 – 1, SEC Champions, Final Ranking #4
1990 UT 31 Colorado 31, Final Record 9 – 2 – 2, SEC Champions, Final Ranking #10

Under Fulmer
1994 UT 23 UCLA 25, Final Record 8 – 4, Final Ranking NR
1995 UT 27 East Carolina 7, Final Record 11 – 1, Final Ranking #4
1998 UT 34 Syracuse 33, Final Record 13 – 0, SEC Champions, NCAA Champions, Final Ranking #1
2000 UT 19 Southern Miss 16, Final Record 8 – 4, Final Ranking #21
2003 UT 24 Fresno State 6, Final Record 10 – 3, Final Ranking #6

 
#16
#16
well ainge is good....clausen is good....but ainges 2nd drive started on their 30.....and riggs ran the team down to the 3 before the TD pass
 
#17
#17
Everyone needs to settle down. Ya'll know, there is a middle ground here.

Ainge had a crappy day-- a VERY crappy day. But he is a VOL and the future leader of this team. So you haters should can it.

Clausen was the better UT QB out there. No West Coast revisionists will change that. Everyone should be VOL fans and thank Rick for the stable performance, instead of just being Ainge fans and not seeing the overall picture of what the objectives are. The objectives are UT wins, not playing time for EA.

With all that said. EA has incredible talent that will only get better. RC is a leader and has the abilities drive the ball. This 2-party fanbase is ugly, stupid and unhealthy. Grow up everyone.
 
#18
#18
Sorry but I'm not part of a 2 party fanbase. I'm part of a UT fanbase and I'll back the oone who produces and since spring started that has been Clausen.
 
#19
#19
Agreed... Just sit back and let the coaches do their job and they'll put the guy that deserves to play and gives us the best chance to win on the field.
 
#20
#20
To answer the original question(before this turned into another %*%@* QB thread), yes we won it just wasn't the blowout everyone expected (well most everyone)
 
#21
#21
I still get nervous with Clausen in the game, I don't care what anybody says......he doesn't have the ability that Ainge does.
 
#22
#22
Originally posted by Vol67@Sep 8, 2005 2:39 AM
Excuse me but if your going to throw out crap you can at least try and know what you are talking about.

#1. Clausen goes thru is progressions twice as fast as Ainge
#2. If his recievers are covered he knows to dump off and get positive yardage. Ainge still tries and forces the ball and UT either gets no yardage, Incomplete or and INT, sometimes he gets the ball in their.
#3. Clausen had the same plays called for him that Ainge did and when the receiver was covered he dumped it off.
Those are facts live with it
#4. One of the things Ainge needs to learn in order to be a starter again is to Dump the ball off when the receivers downfield are covered.
#5. Ainge has to get better at the mental side of the game if he wants to start.
As for the argument he got screwed up when removed from the game. BULL, Ainge knew what was going to happen. It's not like it was a new thing, it happen all last year. If it bothered him that much he shouldn't be starting at all. Clausen was taken out twice for Ainge to come back. Wow it really affected Clausen HUH?

As for UT needs to throw deep, BULL
UT is not now and never has been a team that constantly throws 60 and 70 yard passes and I have followed them for almost 40 years. When UT is at its best including the Manning years they throw the ball 15 to 25 yards and the receiver has done the rest. If UT has to throw the ball 60 and 70 yards they are getting beat! Peyton Manning to Joey Kent vs Alabama for a 70+ yard TD to start the game was an 18 yard pass that went the distance and loosened up the defense. What about the pass at UF from Clausen to Banks 50 yard air it out at the Half which is one of the longest in air passes UT throws.

Production over Potential

As for the game it was a typical UT opener and a normal opener for a Fulmer team.

1987 UT 23 Iowa 22, Final Record 10 – 2 – 1, Final Ranking 17
1989 UT 17 Colorado State 14, Final Record 11 – 1, SEC Champions, Final Ranking #4
1990 UT 31 Colorado 31, Final Record 9 – 2 – 2, SEC Champions, Final Ranking #10

Under Fulmer
1994 UT 23 UCLA 25, Final Record 8 – 4, Final Ranking NR
1995 UT 27 East Carolina 7, Final Record 11 – 1, Final Ranking #4
1998 UT 34 Syracuse 33, Final Record 13 – 0, SEC Champions, NCAA Champions, Final Ranking #1
2000 UT 19 Southern Miss 16, Final Record 8 – 4, Final Ranking #21
2003 UT 24 Fresno State 6, Final Record 10 – 3, Final Ranking #6
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AMEN preach on!!!!!!
 
#23
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Originally posted by volmanjr@Sep 8, 2005 8:34 AM
To answer the original question(before this turned into another %*%@* QB thread), yes we won it just wasn't the blowout everyone expected (well most everyone)
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Right again. UAB looked like a pretty solid team to me. Also to me, it was clear Tennessee was the all around SUPERIOR team. Without all the bad breaks and silly mistakes which seem to come in bunches, the Vols win by 35 over a pretty good team.
Does anybody remember the SEC championship game with Auburn in Manning's last year? MY God, I never saw so many screwups in my life. I was a nervous wreck but the Vols pulled it out in the end. When you can overcome that many mistakes to win (then and now), it shows you are destined for great things. Anybody disagree?
I think we're damn lucky to have two quarterbacks of Ainge and Clausen's ability and could have been throwing a threesome at the opposition if Shaeffer had kept his nose clean. I think we're in good shape at QB, no matter WHO plays. Count your blessings and cut both these guys a little slack.
 
#24
#24
67 your analysis is right on target. Maybe you and I are just too old and crusty for some of these kids. This is about productivity and leadership, not pop-culture.


My guess is that Ainge will grow into an awesome QB. Right now he is at least temporarily beat out by Rick. It does both of them good to have the competitive pressure. Ainge will grow and Rick will graduate. In the mean-time we are so far ahead of our situation this time last year that arguing about this is stoooooopid.
 
#25
#25
Originally posted by wncvolfan@Sep 8, 2005 11:43 AM
Right again.  UAB looked like a pretty solid team to me.  Also to me, it was clear Tennessee was the all around SUPERIOR team.  Without all the bad breaks and silly mistakes which seem to come in bunches, the Vols win by 35 over a pretty good team. 
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I agree that UAB looked good. Let's play the bad break/silly mistake angle from UAB's viewpoint.

2 trips inside the redzone with no points (INT and pass through the hands on receiver on 4th down). UAB could have had 14 more points. Both teams probably look back at this game and say what if.

That said - we won, the game is over and we have to outplay Florida.

Go Vols.
 
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