SMU coach retires..I thought it was interesting

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I've seen this in sports more and more. It is slowly taking away the fun in youth and college sports.
 
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Slydell said:
regarding the reasons she is retiring. Food for thought.

SMU Coach Rhonda Rompola Says Athlete Entitlement A Factor In Her Retirement « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth
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The big issue is that the women's game has changed in the last 10 years. Recruitment is more difficult because outstanding players are recruited by all of the top 25 programs. You have to be more of a sales person, unless a player is looking at your school for academics, their relatives played at a particular university, etc.This is new to women's basketball versus men, where recruitment has been a dog eat dog business for 40 or more years.

Top women high school players now receive superstar status sometimes in grade school. This creates an air of entitlement, so many players, and their families, dictate how they are recruited. In many cases the recruiters have to meet the demands of the recruit and not the other way around.

Old school recruiters have a difficult time acclimating to the new recruiting demands required to convince a recruit to attend their institution. I really believe that Holly's flaws in recruiting, is related to being emerged in the old style of recruiting. If any women's program lack the ability to change to the new demands of recruiting and coaching, they will fastly become of little, if any, consequence to the top 30 programs. I feel that the Lady Vols are entering into the crossroad between success and failure. I hope that is realized, and corrected, sooner than later before our Lady Vols become a has been program like the LaTechs, USCs and Old Dominions of the past. That would be an unnessary tragedy.:cray:
 
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I think one can make the argument that similar attitudes are pervasive in today's society in general.
 
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Oh freakin' boohoo:

Kids are not as coachable as they were years ago,” she said. “I see kids sometimes talking back to their coaches and it’s like a way of life. I’m just being honest. The rules and everything they get, they haven’t taken time to appreciate. I was happy to have a scholarship. Kids nowadays are more concerned about when their next cost-of-attendance check is. It’s just a different world.
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Yeah, blame the players (Kids today) when coaching starting to up the ante on recruiting with these additional perks.

Such a back in my day, we had to fifty miles to school cliche. If you are going to coach over the long haul, you are going to have to adapt to changes in game rules, generational tendencies and so on. But are kids today really "less coachable" that 10 years ago; i seriously doubt that there is any significant difference. This kind of anecdotal claims from a frustrated coach have to be taken with a grain of salt. Remember Alan Iverson and Latrell Sprewell were part of that presumably more coachable generation (as was the LV's own Sade Wiley-Gatewood)!
 
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If you raise your voice you could get fired these days the woman told the truth, i would like to see all these kids play by the rules like in the 70's and 80's you couldn't field a team in any sport, most of the elite are spoiled brat's.:eek:hmy:
 
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terrypedigo said:
If you raise your voice you could get fired these days the woman told the truth, i would like to see all these kids play by the rules like in the 70's and 80's you couldn't field a team in any sport, most of the elite are spoiled brat's.:eek:hmy:
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Do the LV's have any of the "majority elite spoiled brats" on their roster?


terrypedigo said:
If you raise your voice you could get fired these days the woman told the truth, i would like to see all these kids play by the rules like in the 70's and 80's you couldn't field a team in any sport, most of the elite are spoiled brat's.:eek:hmy:
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madtownvol said:
Oh freakin' boohoo:



Yeah, blame the players (Kids today) when coaching starting to up the ante on recruiting with these additional perks.

Such a back in my day, we had to fifty miles to school cliche. If you are going to coach over the long haul, you are going to have to adapt to changes in game rules, generational tendencies and so on. But are kids today really "less coachable" that 10 years ago; i seriously doubt that there is any significant difference. This kind of anecdotal claims from a frustrated coach have to be taken with a grain of salt. Remember Alan Iverson and Latrell Sprewell were part of that presumably more coachable generation (as was the LV's own Sade Wiley-Gatewood)!
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From my high school coaching experience, and working with college scouts, prior to my retirement, students were not as easy to coach as they were when I began my coaching career. Several things have attributed to that, early superstar status is one issue and also parents. My parents supported and respected the coach and his/her decisions, however, parents have become so involved with their child's sports career that they will openly challenge the coach and side with their child against the coach. Kids are more apt to get in your face if you allow them to.

What you said is correct, to be successful you have to consider coaching in today's environment has changed. You have to be more straight forward with parents and players and stand your ground. No matter what players think of you personally, a coach must establish that he/she is fare, interested in players' welfare, the team, and not a single player, is the most important and the coach is in charge. Coaching has never been easy no matter what generation you coached in.

No job is what it use to be, coaches MUST adjust, or like SMU's coach, retire. One would think that after 35 years in a D1 program SMU would have at least made some noise in the NCAA's. Sounds to me like a coach who does not want the challenge required to build a viable program. That takes change and major effort.
 
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Well it is up to the coach to either accept it or do something about it. If it means players have to be kicked off the team then so be it. You don't see any of Geno's players talking back and that goes for a lot of coaches. The coach has to show some authority and have the coaching ability to show the players that their system works. When a system doesn't work the players are the first to know and that is when problems begin.
 
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madtownvol said:
Oh freakin' boohoo:



Yeah, blame the players (Kids today) when coaching starting to up the ante on recruiting with these additional perks.

Such a back in my day, we had to fifty miles to school cliche. If you are going to coach over the long haul, you are going to have to adapt to changes in game rules, generational tendencies and so on. But are kids today really "less coachable" that 10 years ago; i seriously doubt that there is any significant difference. This kind of anecdotal claims from a frustrated coach have to be taken with a grain of salt. Remember Alan Iverson and Latrell Sprewell were part of that presumably more coachable generation (as was the LV's own Sade Wiley-Gatewood)!
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She is a professional coach, you're not. I'll roll with her.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
wait!!!!! You mean people don't deserve $15hr to flip burgers. :loco:
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weird isn't it? I was flipping burgers for a buck 65,way back in ye old days :) I made around what minimum wages are now at a factory,years ago and thought I was doing good and now a gallon of milk is 5 something at the convince store

i started out mowing grass for a buck an hour and thought I was in tall cotton :)
 
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Slydell said:
She is a professional coach, you're not. I'll roll with her.
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A professional coach having a losing season who complained about uncoachable kids today after getting smashed by Uconn.

Funny, you don't hear Geno A. complaining about kids today.

Roll on,Sly, roll on.
 
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madtownvol said:
A professional coach having a losing season who complained about uncoachable kids today after getting smashed by Uconn.

Funny, you don't hear Geno A. complaining about kids today.
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I don't think the SMU coach can be too choosy about who she recruits. The top talent isn't banging on her door so she is more likely to get some of the prima donnas she is complaining about. Geno, Muffett, Kim, and Brenda can be more selective in rejecting the me-me-me players and the girls with helicopter parents. My guess is that most of those players know what the tough coaches expect and avoid those programs because they would not be good fits for their personalities. But should one of the undesirables sneak through the gates, they are quickly dealt with and sent packing.
 
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I would say it's worse at SMU because the players probably saw the 30 for 30 show about the program there. They are all angry they don't have gold Corvettes waiting on them when they arrive. So the coach's perspective may be skewed.
 
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