Simple rule

[pimo1]

This rule I think applies more to UT over the last 5 years than any other but is important for every school for all times. Player calls hurt. Out for that series period.

Any player can call hurt at any time for any reason but they are out that series period done deal. Do I need to go further? Rule seems simple and self explanatory in reasoning to me.

 

[pimo1]

Such a rule would have gotten us serious chances at 2 wins in the real sport (FB) and likely 1 this past week in the softer sport if refs paid more attention.

 

[Iam4utalways]

This rule I think applies more to UT over the last 5 years than any other but is important for every school for all times. Player calls hurt. Out for that series period.

Any player can call hurt at any time for any reason but they are out that series period done deal. Do I need to go further? Rule seems simple and self explanatory in reasoning to me.

Ref checks on injured players and judges it to be fake, throws a flag 15 yards and the player is out for the rest of the game and one more.

Being tired or catching a leg cramp is not injured it’s called being out of shape or at least not in good enough shape.

There could be a new sub rule too. If player A is running off the field player B can sub in without flag as long as player B is outside the numbers until a player A is out of bounds.

 

[TNnative]

This rule I think applies more to UT over the last 5 years than any other but is important for every school for all times. Player calls hurt. Out for that series period.

Any player can call hurt at any time for any reason but they are out that series period done deal. Do I need to go further? Rule seems simple and self explanatory in reasoning to me.

Better yet? Require the team doctor to clear him, along with a doctor hired by the host conference to clear him as well One or two on each sidelines. If a player says he has a cramp, a doctor can palpate the muscle and tell whether or not it is tight.

 

[TopDog4TN]

This rule I think applies more to UT over the last 5 years than any other but is important for every school for all times. Player calls hurt. Out for that series period.

Any player can call hurt at any time for any reason but they are out that series period done deal. Do I need to go further? Rule seems simple and self explanatory in reasoning to me.

This seems like the simple fix until you think about it a bit more.

Final drive of the game....under 2 minutes....Hooker gets the wind knocked out of him and has to go to the sideline to catch his breath for a play or 2, but now if this rule is in place Hooker doesn't get a chance to grit it out and go back in to make the game winning drive and we have to ride with number 2.

 

[Visiting Dawg]

This rule I think applies more to UT over the last 5 years than any other but is important for every school for all times. Player calls hurt. Out for that series period.

Any player can call hurt at any time for any reason but they are out that series period done deal. Do I need to go further? Rule seems simple and self explanatory in reasoning to me.

Be careful what you ask for. Yeah, I get it. Seeing a kid walking back to the huddle and then going down like he was shot by a buffalo gun with a coach on the sideline motioning for him to go down needs to be addressed. Imo, in that instance, a team is charged a T/O or an unsportsman like call if they have no time outs left.

Having said that, if you are going to try to use catching a defense off guard by going fast and trying to pick up penalties and get free plays, then you are the one forcing dinged up players that traditionally tapped out and went to the sideline to get a finger popped back in and taped or a stinger rubbed out to go down on the field rather than getting off the field.

So, yeah, it's one thing to complain about Kiffin having a kid taking a dive every play but you must realize that if this rule takes effect, the teams with depth will start using tempo to force the team's with lesser depth to take kids off the field as well. Iows, it will end up hurting a team like OM more to lose a DL for a series vs Bama than it will hurt Bama to lose a kid vs them.

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

A cramp isn't really an injury, right? Oftentimes said to be lack of hydration. So, if a player goes down with a cramp, he can't come back in until he drinks a gallon of Gatorade. First I was going to say a gallon of colonoscopy prep, but, that would be mean.

 

[VOLfrombama]

3 plays is enough. This can and will work against us so we need to be careful what we wish for.

Most kids aren’t going to want to miss 3 plays, especially in the 4th quarter.

 

[VOLywood]

This seems like the simple fix until you think about it a bit more.

Final drive of the game....under 2 minutes....Hooker gets the wind knocked out of him and has to go to the sideline to catch his breath for a play or 2, but now if this rule is in place Hooker doesn't get a chance to grit it out and go back in to make the game winning drive and we have to ride with number 2.

Limit the rule to defense only. Offensive players won't be faking injuries.

 

[Zues1]

This seems like the simple fix until you think about it a bit more.

Final drive of the game....under 2 minutes....Hooker gets the wind knocked out of him and has to go to the sideline to catch his breath for a play or 2, but now if this rule is in place Hooker doesn't get a chance to grit it out and go back in to make the game winning drive and we have to ride with number 2.

Bingo, that's what I've been saying all along. SEC East on the line, SEC Championship game. ETC. This could bite you in the butt.
Be careful what you ask for.

 

[EtowahVol]

And add if the player calls hurt again he's out the rest of the game.

 

[jbcollins]

i don't think sitting out a series is enough honestly .

 

[savannahfan]

This seems like the simple fix until you think about it a bit more.

Final drive of the game....under 2 minutes....Hooker gets the wind knocked out of him and has to go to the sideline to catch his breath for a play or 2, but now if this rule is in place Hooker doesn't get a chance to grit it out and go back in to make the game winning drive and we have to ride with number 2.

Tough sh-t!!! What's fair for the goose is fair for the gander. This just makes it a bigger priority to have "the next man" up ready to go. All the above suggested changes are NOT simple and god forbid refs and doctors being more involved at the at the moment of play. Things are too slow now.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Ref checks on injured players and judges it to be fake, throws a flag 15 yards and the player is out for the rest of the game and one more.

Being tired or catching a leg cramp is not injured it’s called being out of shape or at least not in good enough shape.

1. The last thing we need is refs throwing flags based on their medical opinions. They aren't doctors, and should not be making those decisions.

2. Cramps aren't from "not being in shape."

 

[Iam4utalways]

1. The last thing we need is refs throwing flags based on their medical opinions. They aren't doctors, and should not be making those decisions.

2. Cramps aren't from "not being in shape."

Refs throwing flags might be the only way to put a stop to faking injuries, at least improve the acting.

What cause cramps if it not the shape your in? They must be catching different cramps than I do. I usually walk them off rather than laying down and waiting for a massage.

 

[WestTennesseeVol]

You cannot have refs making medical judgments as to whether a player is faking or not, they are not trained to judge the severity of an injury.

The only real solution is to have a player sit out the rest of the drive or eventually be excused from the game if it happens too frequently.

 

[Vol Farmer]

This rule I think applies more to UT over the last 5 years than any other but is important for every school for all times. Player calls hurt. Out for that series period.

Any player can call hurt at any time for any reason but they are out that series period done deal. Do I need to go further? Rule seems simple and self explanatory in reasoning to me.

Kiffin will still find a way around it

 

[JALove]

i don't think sitting out a series is enough honestly .

I don’t believe it’s safe to assume ejecting the injured player for any amount of time would hurt the team. “Smart coaches” will simply sub players who aren’t as vital to the team to fake an injury just to get a rest for the team a rest, and would be inconsequential if he is ejected for a series, quarter or the rest of the game. I.e. they would enter the game for one play, just to fake an injury and stop play. They would become in essence a designated “flopper”.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

1. The last thing we need is refs throwing flags based on their medical opinions. They aren't doctors, and should not be making those decisions.

2. Cramps aren't from "not being in shape."

It has more to do with hydration, heat, and vitamin levels than just being in shape. And yes they are much worse than the cramp you might get while at home.

Its flat out dumb to let referees decide if an injury is real or fake. Keep the refs out of this one, if a player requires assistance from medical staff, then that player must sit out the rest of that series. Its a simple solution actually, and doesn't rely on the ref making a decision on something he may not know anything about.

 

[volfan1954]

This rule I think applies more to UT over the last 5 years than any other but is important for every school for all times. Player calls hurt. Out for that series period.

Any player can call hurt at any time for any reason but they are out that series period done deal. Do I need to go further? Rule seems simple and self explanatory in reasoning to me.

the next issue is how long can they lay there

 

[37620VOL]

Any player can call hurt at any time for any reason but they are out that series period done deal. Do I need to go further?

Yes, it needs some weeks.
1. Rule does not apply to captains. Reason: no one is having their captain take a seat. No one wants to see Hooker get the breath knocked out of him and miss a full series.
2. If a defender does it in the redzone, they miss the first set of downs on the next series too.
3. Non injured players have to stay between the hashes. An injury shouldn't function as an extra timeout.
4. No substitution allowed, unless the offense does. (except for the injured player)

 

[ru4real-really?]

This seems like the simple fix until you think about it a bit more.

Final drive of the game....under 2 minutes....Hooker gets the wind knocked out of him and has to go to the sideline to catch his breath for a play or 2, but now if this rule is in place Hooker doesn't get a chance to grit it out and go back in to make the game winning drive and we have to ride with number 2.

whatever they do, it will be to control the defensive side of the ball. If your up-tempo offense has to slow down due to your injury, no big deal!

 

[JWilly]

This rule I think applies more to UT over the last 5 years than any other but is important for every school for all times. Player calls hurt. Out for that series period.

Any player can call hurt at any time for any reason but they are out that series period done deal. Do I need to go further? Rule seems simple and self explanatory in reasoning to me.

I think that most any rule change trying to stop flopping is very likely to be futile. If a team is using flopping as a defensive strategy, it seems to me with just a little thought and ingenuity, they will find ways to minimize the damage of whatever the penalty is. Basically, how can you be absolutely sure the injury is not real when the player is laying on the ground? At that point in time it seems to me you have to accept that all injuries are real. Should every injured player suffer some penalty? Teams have a lot of scrubs that could be sacrificed for a series or two if they are so inclined to flop. I am not certain you can make a rule to solve every problem. You may have to figure out how to live with those problems.

 

[Kinger]

The Canadian Football League already has a rule for this -
Rule 1 - Conduct of the Game
Article 3 - Trainers and Injured Players
When time out has been called for player injury or equipment repair, that player shall be required to leave the game for a minimum of three plays, except when the injury had occurred as a result of an infraction for which the opponent was penalized.

 

[clarencepeabody]

Ref checks on injured players and judges it to be fake, throws a flag 15 yards and the player is out for the rest of the game and one more.

Being tired or catching a leg cramp is not injured it’s called being out of shape or at least not in good enough shape.

There could be a new sub rule too. If player A is running off the field player B can sub in without flag as long as player B is outside the numbers until a player A is out of bounds.

Not a chance. Too much liability in encouraging players to get up when they’re injured. Plus, even the guys in the best shape still have cramps. And they’re debilitating. I agree with OP that the only solution is make them sit for remainder of the series.