Simms Took A Step Today

#76
#76
His grip looks fine from that picture you showed me. That is how I teach the overhead throw. Palming is when you grab the middle of the ball.
 
#77
#77
Volst53 said:
His grip looks fine from that picture you showed me. That is how I teach the overhead throw. Palming is when you grab the middle of the ball.
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No, palming is where your entire hand is in contact with the ball. There are no gaps.

It's why he looks like he's 'pushing' the ball and not throwing it.
 
#78
#78
his 2 big plays were against blown coverages by UF's secondary. The receivers were wide open.
 
#80
#80
UNAVol89 said:
Maybe Dooley should make Simms roll out on every play like Kiffin and Chaney did with Crompton. It seemed like Crompton played better when he was on the run, just running slants and crossing routes.
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Kind of like Sundance Kid needing to be able to move to shoot straight.
 
#81
#81
Outdors21 said:
Not according to people on this board. It was all sheer genius of Jim Chaney. :crazy:
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I'd say that it was some of both. Chaney made a good call and the players executed it with the help of UF's blown coverages.
 
#83
#83
Outdors21 said:
There are wide open receivers everywhere and Simms throws at them sometimes...and overthrows, underthrows, throws behind...etc.

A porous OL doesn't lead to inaccuracy, it leads to bad decisions. We've been over this since last week against OU.
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Who's we?
 
#84
#84
I wasn't impressed with him because he still held the ball to long at times, but he did improve and made some stellar throws. If he will continue improving, he will end up being a good quarterback.
 
#86
#86
timbowyn said:
I wasn't impressed with him because he still held the ball to long at times, but he did improve and made some stellar throws. If he will continue improving, he will end up being a good quarterback.
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haha he will never be a good quarterback...all of the "stellar" throws he made were to wide open receivers because the uf d backs were lost
 
#88
#88
he is going to be fine.. watch and see... he looked great at times and awful at times. as the season progresses he will hopefully look great more than not.

you can blame blown coverage on just about any pass for a touchdown. I still say that Urban stole the game with the fake punt. If we had picked that up we would have steam rolled but "what ifs" are not going to change anything. I just think I am seeing alot of negative things but I am also seeing alot of positives from the team as they jell over the season I think they will be respectable.

As far as Kiffin I think he would have done well here if he had stayed.. But honestly we looked awful during the Bowl game last year so if it comes down to No Bowl or going and taking a "Beat Down" I prefer to stay home.
 
#90
#90
Mason72 said:
he is going to be fine.. watch and see... he looked great at times and awful at times. as the season progresses he will hopefully look great more than not.

you can blame blown coverage on just about any pass for a touchdown. I still say that Urban stole the game with the fake punt. If we had picked that up we would have steam rolled but "what ifs" are not going to change anything. I just think I am seeing alot of negative things but I am also seeing alot of positives from the team as they jell over the season I think they will be respectable.
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respectable is not good enough....i want wins and a quarterback who doesn't stare down every throw he makes but you are right the fake punt killed us but if it wasnt for uf being so terrible this year we would have lost by 30
 
#91
#91
Outdors21 said:
You can design plays to blow coverages?

Why don't they do it every play?! That seems like it would be a good offensive system.
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Yes, that's precisely what was done on the play to Moore. They caught them in cover 1, ran Hunter on the post, ran Moore on the out and up in anticipation that the safety would go with Hunter. He did; it was a mistake by UF secondary caused by the scheme, and it resulted in a touchdown. You're little act on here is getting stupid. No one is pretending as if Simms is Joe Montana, but give the guy some credit where credit is due. I've been as hard on him as anybody.
 
#93
#93
JakeMo2410 said:
haha agreed :popcorn:
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Almost every pass play a team runs is designed to create blown coverages/mismatches (ever seen play action?). Most often, the defense does its job decently. This is not a hard concept. These plays were designed to do exactly what they did which was to get receivers in space.
 
#94
#94
peerless98 said:
Almost every pass play a team runs is designed to create blown coverages/mismatches (ever seen play action?). Most often, the defense does its job decently. This is not a hard concept. These plays were designed to do exactly what they did which was to get receivers in space.
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so the credit should go to the oc not to simms for throwing a ball to someone who is wide open....thanks for explaining the hard concepts to me i really appreciate that man:bow2:
 
#95
#95
Outdors21 said:
You can design plays to blow coverages?

Why don't they do it every play?! That seems like it would be a good offensive system.
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Yes you can. They go by various names. Sneak plays, misdirection, fake plays, trick plays, razzle dazzle, and flam floozies. Oregon is darn good at this and Urban used one to turn the game around. They don't always work due to variety of reason. Among them are defenses that don't fall for a ruse, poor execution, not having the right personnel to make it work and so on. When defense players fall for the ruse, their coverage is "blown." They're out of position, caught flat footed, or what have you.
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Listen, friend, as a fellow Vol (I think) you don't know everything, neither do I. As a matter of fact I'd readily stake that you probably know more about certain aspects of the game than I do. But I do know that arm chair coaches aren't all they think they are. Otherwise they'd be on the sidelines rather ass-parked in a chair and in front of a computer presuming to know things they don't.
 
#96
#96
WoodsmanVol said:
Yes you can. They go by various names. Sneak plays, misdirection, fake plays, trick plays, razzle dazzle, and flam floozies. Oregon is darn good at this and Urban used one to turn the game around. They don't always work due to variety of reason. Among them are defenses that don't fall for a ruse, poor execution, not having the right personnel to make it work and so on. When defense players fall for the ruse, their coverage is "blown." They're out of position, caught flat footed, or what have you.
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Listen, friend, as a fellow Vol (I think) you don't know everything, neither do I. As a matter of fact I'd readily stake that you probably know more about certain aspects of the game than I do. But I do know that arm chair coaches aren't all they think they are. Otherwise they'd be on the sidelines rather ass-parked in a chair and in front of a computer presuming to know things they don't.
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Or they chose to do something more meaningful with their career...
 
#97
#97
The OL is the key to getting Simms full ability out of him. (He is not Peyton)

The OL has about as much experience as he does, they should get better as the season goes which should give him a better chance to be productive. If they do, and he doesn't its time to give Bray a shot.
 
#98
#98
when a receiver is running down the field wide open by 20 yards, it is a mistake by the D, not the genius of the OC or QB.
 
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