Simms Should NOT Have Been Pulled

#52
#52
You people on here don't understand that Simms is a below average QB with a famous name and Bray is an Above Average Young freshman QB that has tons more potential than Simms does. I hate that we aren't very good right now , but Bray is the future and Simms is and always have been a QB that just fills the roster. I get tired of reading the BS on here abnout the QB's. Go with Bray now and forget about Simms. Bray needs to build experience, feel of the game, and relationships with the young future receivers. Moore and Jones can build Bray's confidence with good routes and their experience. Bray is the answer. Dooley is doin the best he can with what he has!! Eat it!:)
 
#53
#53
Bray was the better QB today IMO and it wasn't even close after watching the offensive guys responded to his play. There was chemistry on the field forming before our very eyes. If you thought Simm was playing good today, you are emotionally attached to him IMO.
 
#54
#54
GoBigOrangeVols said:
10/13 153 yards, TD 0 ints.

The first fumble was not his fault at all. The second was partially his fault for not controlling the ball while moving through traffic. Both were the result terrible blind side protection.

He would never have thrown that pick six. Many high school QBs would have been able to read the defense on that route.

All that said... Bray recovered well and played pretty good the rest of the way, however saying Simms takes too many sacks is like the pot calling the kettle black if you think Bray doesn't do the exact same thing. We don't have the line to protect for all the pass plays the moronic Jim Chaney calls throughout the course of a game.

I'm not saying Bray shouldn't play the rest of the season, all I'm saying is Simms was having a pretty gritty and good game, probably his best as a Vol, when he got benched.
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completely agree
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#55
#55
He stood there and held the ball like a bush leaguer. He's got to get rid of the ball both of those plays, and the 2nd one was ridiculous. They were right to pull him and Vol fans should be thrilled with the way Bray responded after the interception.

It's a different team with Bray out there. The offense is just too limited with Simms.
 
#56
#56
Simms has no pocket presence. Bray will be light years better and after Simms cost the team 10 points(at least) it was time for a change. Bray did pretty darn good too.
 
#58
#58
GoBigOrangeVols said:
10/13 153 yards, TD 0 ints.

The first fumble was not his fault at all. The second was partially his fault for not controlling the ball while moving through traffic. Both were the result terrible blind side protection.

He would never have thrown that pick six. Many high school QBs would have been able to read the defense on that route.

All that said... Bray recovered well and played pretty good the rest of the way, however saying Simms takes too many sacks is like the pot calling the kettle black if you think Bray doesn't do the exact same thing. We don't have the line to protect for all the pass plays the moronic Jim Chaney calls throughout the course of a game.

I'm not saying Bray shouldn't play the rest of the season, all I'm saying is Simms was having a pretty gritty and good game, probably his best as a Vol, when he got benched.
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I'm with you about his fumbles, first one was on Simms, second one, i'll say again, he barely had time to raise the ball after taking the snap and they were in his ear. I do not agree with you say he shouldn't have been benched. Go back and look at what I put in the game thread, I said simms was playing well, but how many games have we gotten in the redzone and stalled? How many times does it have to happen before people put it on the QB? Sure bray made some mistakes, but when we got in the redzone, we scored.
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#59
#59
Simms if you ask me has the skill set to be a very good back up quarterback in the sec but i dont think he could be a good starter.. on the other hand i think bray will be a great quarterback so i say we should start him the rest of the year and put simms were he should be back up...
 
#60
#60
GoBigOrangeVols said:
10/13 153 yards, TD 0 ints.

The first fumble was not his fault at all. The second was partially his fault for not controlling the ball while moving through traffic. Both were the result terrible blind side protection.

He would never have thrown that pick six. Many high school QBs would have been able to read the defense on that route.

All that said... Bray recovered well and played pretty good the rest of the way, however saying Simms takes too many sacks is like the pot calling the kettle black if you think Bray doesn't do the exact same thing. We don't have the line to protect for all the pass plays the moronic Jim Chaney calls throughout the course of a game.

I'm not saying Bray shouldn't play the rest of the season, all I'm saying is Simms was having a pretty gritty and good game, probably his best as a Vol, when he got benched.
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He was pulled specifically because he ignored CDD's instructions to get rid of the ball. Watch the replay after the first fumble. I love his attitude and leadership but when your players don't follow your instructions you have no choice but to make a change.

He has repeatedly been instructed to get rid of the ball. As much as I like certain qualities about him he just won't follow instruction.

The change was appropriate and warranted.

If you disagree you have probably never been a coach.
 
#61
#61
GoBigOrangeVols said:
10/13 153 yards, TD 0 ints.

The first fumble was not his fault at all. The second was partially his fault for not controlling the ball while moving through traffic. Both were the result terrible blind side protection.

He would never have thrown that pick six. Many high school QBs would have been able to read the defense on that route.

All that said... Bray recovered well and played pretty good the rest of the way, however saying Simms takes too many sacks is like the pot calling the kettle black if you think Bray doesn't do the exact same thing. We don't have the line to protect for all the pass plays the moronic Jim Chaney calls throughout the course of a game.

I'm not saying Bray shouldn't play the rest of the season, all I'm saying is Simms was having a pretty gritty and good game, probably his best as a Vol, when he got benched.
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fumbles were result of piss poor protection. Dallas Thomas played like a true freshman..
 
#62
#62
Simms doesnt have the upside Bray has, plus Bray has the better arm.
Simms goes through reads where Bray doesn't but that causing him to get sacked more.
 
#65
#65
It's very clear that Simms has reached his ceiling. He just don't have it, it sucks, but it's true. He is very predictable.
 
#66
#66
oklavol said:
Simms goes through reads where Bray doesn't but that causing him to get sacked more.
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You have no clue in regards to this because you have no idea what the staff is allowing or calling.

Neither have many reads to go through and has been that way all year due to inexperience in the OL. \

Bary has much more potential than Simms. No doubt there. but the play calls are being dictated by what the OL can do, not the QBs
 
#67
#67
oklavol said:
Simms doesnt have the upside Bray has, plus Bray has the better arm.
Simms goes through reads where Bray doesn't but that causing him to get sacked more.
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I disagree - I think it's the opposite. On Bray's long TD pass he read the field perfectly and didn't throw to his first guy. Same on several other big plays. Simms was the one locking on to Gerald Jones (and then DMoore after Gjones when down) at the beginning of the season.
 
#68
#68
I would almost have to say the chainey is not like who we all thought he was. Some of his play calling is just like running your forbear into a brick wall over and over again. I actually like Bray. He tries to make plays while simms is trying to force them. He's not that good and his attitude and cockiness sure showed today at the stadium.
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#70
#70
CharlestonSCVol said:
I would almost have to say the chainey is not like who we all thought he was. Some of his play calling is just like running your forbear into a brick wall over and over again. I actually like Bray. He tries to make plays while simms is trying to force them. He's not that good and his attitude and cockiness sure showed today at the stadium.
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its spreading.
 
#72
#72
CharlestonSCVol said:
Am I wrong? Are you not thinking the same thing. Who is going to try to reverse more than once in a game? Almost once every series?
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I only remember one reverse.
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#73
#73
Freak said:
I only remember one reverse.
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he means the wide receiver end around play that we ran ad nauseam... however it worked a lot better this week than it did last week.

The actual reverse to D rodg failed horribly. But i actually didn't think it was a horrible call, just the wrong situation (it was first down and we needed a lasting possession not a high risk play).
 
#74
#74
GoBigOrangeVols said:
10/13 153 yards, TD 0 ints.

The first fumble was not his fault at all. The second was partially his fault for not controlling the ball while moving through traffic. Both were the result terrible blind side protection.

He would never have thrown that pick six. Many high school QBs would have been able to read the defense on that route.

All that said... Bray recovered well and played pretty good the rest of the way, however saying Simms takes too many sacks is like the pot calling the kettle black if you think Bray doesn't do the exact same thing. We don't have the line to protect for all the pass plays the moronic Jim Chaney calls throughout the course of a game.

I'm not saying Bray shouldn't play the rest of the season, all I'm saying is Simms was having a pretty gritty and good game, probably his best as a Vol, when he got benched.
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You have got to be kiddin! Simms has played terrible all season. Ok, he has had some flashes of making some good plays but overall his performance has been poor at best. Bray needs and should be playing every down. He is the future and makes better decisions in terms of not sitting in the pocket forever and taking a sack. Simms stares his receivers down and cannot move out of the pocket. Bray needs to be playing every down from here on out.
 
#75
#75
GoBigOrangeVols said:
he means the wide receiver end around play that we ran ad nauseam... however it worked a lot better this week than it did last week.

The actual reverse to D rodg failed horribly. But i actually didn't think it was a horrible call, just the wrong situation (it was first down and we needed a lasting possession not a high risk play).
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I knew what he meant. That's a pet peeve of mine. I was just being difficult. Sorry.
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