Simms better than Crompton

#26
#26
28 posts and most of them are the same story line....give it up man, or your gonna take some heat.
 
#28
#28
My post from this thread just a few posts up, for reading comprehension purposes...
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Your the same guy in the Nash Nance thread that said that Bray would start. Something doesn't add up here.
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justdooleyit said:
You said I came in and said NN was going to start. That makes you a liar.
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So, yes, you called a liar for no reason. Your roasted, so go suck your thumb in the corner troll.
 
#29
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iuvol2012 said:
Nice story change after you've been caught. Troll.
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It is like I said. Think what you want. I know this for a fact beyond doubt. I have never in my life said NN was going to start. Now, next year after Simms gets hurt, NN will be the logical choice to start. Who else would they have. I love talking to a liar.
 
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justdooleyit said:
It is like I said. Think what you want. I know this for a fact beyond doubt. I have never in my life said NN was going to start. Now, next year after Simms gets hurt, NN will be the logical choice to start. Who else would they have. I love talking to a liar.
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Let me guess. The little magic eight ball that you have hidden under your bed told you this, therefore its the truth since the magic eight ball is never wrong.
 
#31
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Burhead said:
Jonathan Crompton's first three games (1-2)
Western Kentucky: 21-28, 233, 5-2
UCLA: 13-26, 93, 0-3
Florida: 11-19, 93, 0-2
Total: 45-73, 419, 5-5

vs

Matt Simms' first three games (1-2)
UT-Martin: 14-24, 181, 1-0
Oregon: 15-29, 151, 0-1
Florida: 19-31, 259, 2-2
Total: 48-84, 591, 3-3

Outside of the first game, Matt has done a better job of Crompton. He has played two top ten teams back to back and was only playing his third true game of D-1 football after coming in from JUCO.
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i agree that by overall stats simms has looked better. but, i have worked very hard at supressing the nightmare that JC was during the first part of last year.

however, from the standpoint of critical errors, i'm not sure that simms has done better. his pick 6 against the quacks, endzone INT and other INT against the 'turds, and having time to throw but missing an open receiver for 6 on the first play of the game yesterday all add up to potential game breakers.

i sure hope he improves as much as JC did last year.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
My post from this thread just a few posts up, for reading comprehension purposes...




So, yes, you called a liar for no reason. Your roasted, so go suck your thumb in the corner troll.
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Do you mean suck as in the the way the life was sucked out of UT on the 4th and 6 or the way the Ducks sucked the life out of the stadium and made it a home game for the Ducks. Which one do you mean! UAB wins by at least 10.
 
#34
#34
The troll is a loser. Back to Simms,, who you can clock passing speed with a sun dial..

I am tired of haivng to watch our coaches train these young men while 'on the job'. And they do not seem to have 'it'.

I was watching the Mississippi State game last night and the Frosh QB they have was quick and decisive. Great arm strength and passng speed. Is this too much to ask?

Does Bray not have any arm strength, or confidence in his own abilities? I would take physical skills, confidence, and decisiveness over moderate talent any day.
 
#35
#35
At the end of the season when Bray leaving is announced, I will expect an apology. If he dont, I will come on here and apologize to you.
 
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Tampavolz said:
The troll is a loser. Back to Simms,, who you can clock passing speed with a sun dial..

I am tired of haivng to watch our coaches train these young men while 'on the job'. And they do not seem to have 'it'.

I was watching the Mississippi State game last night and the Frosh QB they have was quick and decisive. Great arm strength and passng speed. Is this too much to ask?

Does Bray not have any arm strength, or confidence in his own abilities? I would take physical skills, confidence, and decisiveness over moderate talent any day.
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You realize that the Miss St. offense has more designed QB runs than any other in the league, save Auburn. The guy who is their coach designed runs for Tebow for what 3 years??
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
He's not. It's that simple.
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I disagree...

The former coach wouldn't let Crompton do anything last year at Florida because he didn't have any confidence in him....Simms attempted 30-something passes yesterday...The INT in the endzone hurt real bad, no doubt...He is staring down receivers, that's obvious...I think Simms' mental outlook toward the game is way ahead of Crompton's at this point in the season compared to this time last season with Crompton...Had it been Crompton that threw the INT in the endzone this time last season he would have gone out and thrown 4 more...Plus, Crompton had a better line to work with last season, even with the walk-ons...I see flashes with this O-line and with Simms...Everybody knew this was going to be a learning process and was going to take time...
 
#39
#39
That is true, but you have to have seen his faster drop backs, his decision to throw and his throws were quicker , and on target. That was a confident young man out there, something we seem to need sports psychologists to boost our QB's up with these these days. I would make the call that Simms does not have the 'it' factor of confidence, skill set, arm strength, smarts, and field vision. I would be in favor of moving on to Bray and getting him experienced for next year and knowing that he cannot be a step down from what we have now.
 
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Tampavolz said:
The troll is a loser. Back to Simms,, who you can clock passing speed with a sun dial..

I am tired of haivng to watch our coaches train these young men while 'on the job'. And they do not seem to have 'it'.

I was watching the Mississippi State game last night and the Frosh QB they have was quick and decisive. Great arm strength and passng speed. Is this too much to ask?

Does Bray not have any arm strength, or confidence in his own abilities? I would take physical skills, confidence, and decisiveness over moderate talent any day.
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I say scrap our offense all together and go to the triple option....Air Force is leading the nation in rushing with a 423 yards a game average...I watched them yesterday and they had 351 against Oklahoma...
 
#41
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Tampavolz said:
That is true, but you have to have seen his faster drop backs, his decision to throw and his throws were quicker , and on target. That was a confident young man out there, something we seem to need sports psychologists to boost our QB's up with these these days. I would make the call that Simms does not have the 'it' factor of confidence, skill set, arm strength, smarts, and field vision. I would be in favor of moving on to Bray and getting him experienced for next year and knowing that he cannot be a step down from what we have now.
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What happens if they do go to Bray and he does as bad or worse ??...Then you have two QB's with their confidence shot...I learned my lesson last season...I was calling for Crompton's head as was many others but I tempered that with the fact that Stephens and Coleman had the chance to beat Crompton out and couldn't do it...Bray certainly has the chance but the coaches don't seem to think he is ready...I just have to go with the guys that see them practice every single day and trust they make the right decision for the team...If Bray was ready and they thought he would win games for them I would have to believe he would be playing...
 
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VolNC2316 said:
I say scrap our offense all together and go to the triple option....Air Force is leading the nation in rushing with a 423 yards a game average...I watched them yesterday and they had 351 against Oklahoma...
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and almost beat us at Neyland a few years ago ...
 
#43
#43
i still cant believe the crompton haters. News flash he made the chargers team so he cant be that bad as far as simms goes he's lucky he made the ut team he is mediocre at best
 
#44
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1vol9020 said:
i still cant believe the crompton haters. News flash he made the chargers team so he cant be that bad as far as simms goes he's lucky he made the ut team he is mediocre at best
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No Crompton hate. What I'm saying is Simms is playing a lot better( Which isn't that hard) than Crompton was at this point last year. We couldn't pass the ball period last year to start the season.
 
#45
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....its unrealistic to believe we were not going to take our lumps this season, i'm encouraged to see that we have talent....i'm comforted to think these guys who are getting so much experience will be back the next year and the next and the next.....
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
You realize that the Miss St. offense has more designed QB runs than any other in the league, save Auburn. The guy who is their coach designed runs for Tebow for what 3 years??
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When the Freshman is in, they run a totally different offense than when Relf is in.
 
#47
#47
+1. Simms's stats are better with a weaker offensive line. Our QB situation was in a bad way at this time last year. Let's just hope Simms progresses like Crompton did last year. I'm looking for the light to turn on in the Georgia game.
 
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VolNC2316 said:
What happens if they do go to Bray and he does as bad or worse ??...Then you have two QB's with their confidence shot...I learned my lesson last season...I was calling for Crompton's head as was many others but I tempered that with the fact that Stephens and Coleman had the chance to beat Crompton out and couldn't do it...Bray certainly has the chance but the coaches don't seem to think he is ready...I just have to go with the guys that see them practice every single day and trust they make the right decision for the team...If Bray was ready and they thought he would win games for them I would have to believe he would be playing...
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What a sensible post! Such can be a rare commodity these days...
 
#49
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Lockdown1 said:
At this point last year we had no signs of a passing game with Crompton. If Simms can progress at the rate Crompton did last year we could be in for a pleasant surprise. Also this team looks more competitive than last year's bunch.
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I have been thinking since the game ended that this game could have been for Simms what Auburn was for JC last year. Simms had been playing tight and under his ability before the last qtr or so Saturday. When they went into the 4 minute O trying to win the game he seemed to forget all that and just played. He moved around, found some alternate receivers, improvised, etc. I think (and hope) he took a massive step forward.

Now they need to put it together, eliminate the mistakes, and get some O momentum going vs UAB.

I think I like UT's chances vs UGA and LSU better than I did before. I think both of those teams are very beatable. USC will be tough IMO.

They need to somehow stay relatively healthy and continue to improve.

If I count right Simms hit 7 different receivers after being locked on to Jones and Moore in the other two games. I think D Rogers caught a pass that was called back, right? He recovered from two very, very bad INT's to throw two TD's and 19/31 259.

I would contend he did that against a much better D and much more talented team than Oregon has.

I saw progress.

Question: If Simms had his end of the game confidence at the point where he threw the pick in the end zone... would it have been a different result? I think at least on that play it would have.
 
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#50
#50
The worst thing that could happen to Bray is for him to be thrown out there right now.

The guy has a terrific career ahead of him once he gets adjusted. To rush him out there even if he might do marginally better (which I doubt) would be a huge mistake for the future of the program... although I admit my first thought was "get the hook" when Simms threw that really bad 2nd interception.
 
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