Silas Redd

[bornbleddinorange]

if he almost beat alabama and UF with subpar players and a few standouts. ( EB and montario Hardesty) he will own the Pac-10 with the talent they have.

 

[AbsenteeTrojan]

Ole Kiff may be preparing his own pink slip if usc doesnt make the title game. Very good team coming back, Barkley coming back for his sr year, sounding like Redd will join usc very soon. Kiff better win.

So if USC doesn't make the national championship in our first year off a bowl ban, Kiffin will get fired?

Come on now, be at least a little realistic.

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

Ole Kiff may be preparing his own pink slip if usc doesnt make the title game. Very good team coming back, Barkley coming back for his sr year, sounding like Redd will join usc very soon. Kiff better win.

I can only assume that's a joke.

 

[BIGORANGEBUBBA]

I'm not defending Kiffin, but I do want to point out that Dooley did the exact same thing in the Malik Jackson situation.

There's nothing wrong with it, unless you act like Indiana and send 6 coaches into the PSU parking lot to sneak up on players.

Wrong, Dooley did not do the same thing. Orgeron and Queefer Kiffin tried to get players that had already arrived on UT campus prepared to go to class to not go to class. No UT sanctions, just a couple of @$$ clowns trying to slip out in the middle of the night and take the talented recruits with them. Dooley reached out to Malik after U$C got caught cheating and players were allowed to transfer.

 

[skeeter33418]

So if USC doesn't make the national championship in our first year off a bowl ban, Kiffin will get fired?

Come on now, be at least a little realistic.

This will be the most talented and deep team he will have for awhile. All he has to do is get past Oregon, which i think he will.

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

Wrong, Dooley did not do the same thing. Orgeron and Queefer Kiffin tried to get players that had already arrived on UT campus prepared to go to class to not go to class. No UT sanctions, just a couple of @$$ clowns trying to slip out in the middle of the night and take the talented recruits with them. Dooley reached out to Malik after U$C got caught cheating and players were allowed to transfer.

You realize almost none of those guys would've been coming to UT if they knew the staff was bout to bolt, right? They had a relationship with those recruits for over a year and offered them a ride to their next destination...never understood why UT felt like they "owned" those kids. Seems like the only honorable thing to do was to give them the option of going to any college of their choice.

 

[BIGORANGEBUBBA]

You realize almost none of those guys would've been coming to UT if they knew the staff was bout to bolt, right? They had a relationship with those recruits for over a year and offered them a ride to their next destination...never understood why UT felt like they "owned" those kids. Seems like the only honorable thing to do was to give them the option of going to any college of their choice.

You realize that doesnt matter, right? That is not the subject of the conversation. Read the comment. Dooley didnt do the same thing. All I pointed out was the difference in the two situations, not whether this guy or that guy would pick this school or that school. What Dooley did and what Kiffin did are two different things.

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

Orgeron and Queefer Kiffin tried to get players that had already arrived on UT campus prepared to go to class to not go to class. No UT sanctions, just a couple of @$$ clowns trying to slip out in the middle of the night and take the talented recruits with them.

Seems like you were given bad info.

1. You did make the accusation--which is false. The only thing reported was Orgeron told recruits that if they went to class, they would be considered UT students, and since they had recruited these guys for a year, they would have USC offers if they wanted. They wanted to at least give those guys a chance to reconsider before they would be subjected to the University having to grant a release.

2. Dooley did indeed fax USC the same notice Lane faxed PSU acknowledging he would be contacting Silas. Back in June '10, it was reported on local radio that Dooley had sent a fax saying he would recruit EVERY junior or senior.

 

[Phat-Phil]

This will be the most talented and deep team he will have for awhile. All he has to do is get past Oregon, which i think he will.

They are definitely talented. But I thought their biggest question mark, with their limited number of scholarships, was their depth..?

 

[BIGORANGEBUBBA]

Seems like you were given bad info.

1. You did make the accusation--which is false. The only thing reported was Orgeron told recruits that if they went to class, they would be considered UT students, and since they had recruited these guys for a year, they would have USC offers if they wanted. They wanted to at least give those guys a chance to reconsider before they would be subjected to the University having to grant a release.

2. Dooley did indeed fax USC the same notice Lane faxed PSU acknowledging he would be contacting Silas. Back in June '10, it was reported on local radio that Dooley had sent a fax saying he would recruit EVERY junior or senior.

Seems like you are a dumb@$$...thanks for making my point. My comment initially was it was a different set of circumstances, nothing more nothing less. None of this stupid sh!t that you are talking about. Kiffin and crew did one thing, Dooley did another. Thanks, Bye:salute:

 

[Vol2424]

You realize almost none of those guys would've been coming to UT if they knew the staff was bout to bolt, right? They had a relationship with those recruits for over a year and offered them a ride to their next destination...never understood why UT felt like they "owned" those kids. Seems like the only honorable thing to do was to give them the option of going to any college of their choice.

They would have to sit out a year if they did. Thompkins decided not to come here and didn't trust Kiffin after that episode. He had to sit a year at Cinncinnati. That is what wasn't told to them by Captain Caveman. Also , nevermind the fact that it was Tennessee money that was used to recruit the players. Funny thing that coked up bastard didn't have enough class to call the players who played their ass off for him or even answer the phone when they called.

Orgeron trying to steer recruits to USC - College Football Nation Blog - ESPN

 

[skeeter33418]

They are definitely talented. But I thought their biggest question mark, with their limited number of scholarships, was their depth..?

I think the depth issues start kicking in next year. USC has Oregon and ND at home this year i think, stanford on the road(are they anygood this year), schedule seems to set up well. I think they make the title game and play LSU.

 

[BIGORANGEBUBBA]

If this conversation was Kiffin did the same thing in this situation with Silas Redd that Dooley did with Malik then fine that is correct. But my understanding from the previous page is it was suggested that what Kiffin did with UT recruits when he bolted was the same thing Dooley did with Malik and it is not.

 

[USMC_0311]

I have a question guys....what is going on with Silas Redd?? I am tired of hearing people bi!ch about Kiffen.

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

If this conversation was Kiffin did the same thing in this situation with Silas Redd that Dooley did with Malik then fine that is correct. But my understanding from the previous page is it was suggested that what Kiffin did with UT recruits when he bolted was the same thing Dooley did with Malik and it is not.

You already said bye.

 

[BIGORANGEBUBBA]

you already said bye.

gfy

 

[Vol2424]

Seems like you are a dumb@$$...thanks for making my point. My comment initially was it was a different set of circumstances, nothing more nothing less. None of this stupid sh!t that you are talking about. Kiffin and crew did one thing, Dooley did another. Thanks, Bye:salute:

Ed not knowing the rule is not a shock now is it? They were already enrolled , so they were on the team when the call was made. The only one that wasn't was Willis because he was late getting here. They heard the news on the radio and didn't even bother showing up , iirc.

 

[Weezer]

You realize almost none of those guys would've been coming to UT if they knew the staff was bout to bolt, right? They had a relationship with those recruits for over a year and offered them a ride to their next destination...never understood why UT felt like they "owned" those kids. Seems like the only honorable thing to do was to give them the option of going to any college of their choice.

Yes, allowing Kiffin to absolutely kill our program would have been "honorable". Are you ****ing kidding me? The douchery started with PC leaving USC when he did, which put them in a bind. It continued with Kiffin leaving UT when he did, which thankfully only crippled our program. The ultimate douche move was Ogre calling our commits and telling them not to go to class and trying to get them to come to USC. Seriously, take the UT fan icon down because there is no way in hell you're a UT fan if you think Kiffin and Ogre did no wrong. UT didn't screw those kids, Kiffin and company did.

Only a matter of time before you guys realize what a douchebag Kiffin is. Better hope he doesn't kill your program. He can coach, but the man has no character. He'll break every rule he can and he's arrogant enough to believe he'll get away with it. NCAA has a mad on for him. One slip up and he's toast, and he might drag your program down with him.

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

I think the depth issues start kicking in next year. USC has Oregon and ND at home this year i think, stanford on the road(are they anygood this year), schedule seems to set up well. I think they make the title game and play LSU.

We have more players this year than last (now that all of the RS are off). Stanford only returns 4 starters on O; Oregon lost their QB, RB (in convo for greatest Duck all-time) and several OL and D starters. Having said that, their schedule is cake. ND will be a slug fest if everyone's healthy.

If USC doesn't stop Oregon they could go 13-0...

 

[Vol2424]

We have more players this year than last (now that all of the RS are off). Stanford only returns 4 starters on O; Oregon lost their QB, RB (in convo for greatest Duck all-time) and several OL and D starters. Having said that, their schedule is cake. ND will be a slug fest if everyone's healthy.

If USC doesn't stop Oregon they could go 13-0...

Just like yours is every year. But you still manage to lose to some pathedic team when you shouldn't. Like ASU when they handed your ass over to you last season.

 

[Phat-Phil]

Just like yours is every year. But you still manage to lose to some pathedic team when you shouldn't. Like ASU when they handed your ass over to you last season.

How are we talking trash about losing games we shouldn't?

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

Yes, allowing Kiffin to absolutely kill our program would have been "honorable". Are you ****ing kidding me? The douchery started with PC leaving USC when he did, which put them in a bind. It continued with Kiffin leaving UT when he did, which thankfully only crippled our program. The ultimate douche move was Ogre calling our commits and telling them not to go to class and trying to get them to come to USC. Seriously, take the UT fan icon down because there is no way in hell you're a UT fan if you think Kiffin and Ogre did no wrong. UT didn't screw those kids, Kiffin and company did.

Only a matter of time before you guys realize what a douchebag Kiffin is. Better hope he doesn't kill your program. He can coach, but the man has no character. He'll break every rule he can and he's arrogant enough to believe he'll get away with it. NCAA has a mad on for him. One slip up and he's toast, and he might drag your program down with him.

Dude, calm down.

First off, those EE's were recruited by Kiff and O...they didn't come here to be Vols; they came to play for the coaches who recruited them. Now Ed should've known the rule--no excusing that--but if your only option is to strong-arm 18 year olds to play for your program when the coach who recruited them bolted, then that's messed up. I'm certainly glad they stayed, but if it had been your son, and the University said: "you belong to us, make the best of it," you'd have a right to be upset (all this happening in a span of 6 hours btw.)

 

[Vol2424]

How are we talking trash about losing games we shouldn't?

We don't play a weak schedule. That's the point. I'm talking about facts. They lose a game they shouldn't every season. We did it once in 28 years. Everyone knows we were **** last year.

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

We don't play a weak schedule. That's the point. I'm talking about facts. They lose a game they shouldn't every season. We did it once in 28 years. Everyone knows we were **** last year.

Well, don't know why you're upset about that. If USC doesn't **** the bed in '06-'07'-'08, no SEC teams make the title game...

But I agree PC started slacking at the end; no excuse for the UCLA and Stanford games of '06 and '07.

 

[skeeter33418]

We have more players this year than last (now that all of the RS are off). Stanford only returns 4 starters on O; Oregon lost their QB, RB (in convo for greatest Duck all-time) and several OL and D starters. Having said that, their schedule is cake. ND will be a slug fest if everyone's healthy.

If USC doesn't stop Oregon they could go 13-0...

You could play oregon twice this year right? noway they beat usc twice this year, but i think usc could beat them twice. ND should have been good the past 3 years, not sure whats going on up there.