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#26
#26
The Sentinel said:
Again - Personality, Integrity, and Character absolutely!

Coaching - NO! We will be respected only as a clean program. Losing is not respected.
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I respect your opinion. I guess it comes down to how one defines "coaching". If you compare LK to DD only, leaving the ancillary staff out of the equation, I think DD gets the nod. Now, if we add the ancillary staff back into the mix, the jury is still out, because we don't know who DD is going to have in those positions; however I concede that Monte is a huge factor to overcome. As far as recruiting in the south I would rather see my son playing for DD than LK. Being a motivational leader is a big part of coaching and it is very hard to motivate players that are on probation and that is where the program was headed under LK. You may be right, but as a person who has, both, played and coached, I would put my money on the southern guy who understands UT's esteemed history, fanbase, and winning tradition any day.
 
#27
#27
In the movie, "The American President," Michael Douglas is under fire and is asked about the role of character as a President.

He says, "I've been here three years and three days, and I can tell you without hesitation: Being President of this country is entirely about character."

That quote is not only about that one job. It's about ANY leadership position. From what I've seen, DD offers us character in spades!

My biggest problem with the way this AD handled the HC job is that he seems to view it as an on-the-job training ground. If that's how he views it and sells it, why wouldn't the world feel the same? OJT didn't put a 100,000 seat stadium on the banks of the Tennessee. So, I have a problem with the way Hammy operates.

I also would have handled the CPF situation entirely differently. Again, no roses for Hammy. The entire Kiffin-my-a** episode doesn't need to even be discussed.

So, I do think Hammy needs to find a new profession.

HOWEVER ... He seems to have landed on a man of intelligence, respect for tradition, and ... CHARACTER.

When it hits the fan, I believe DD will do what right ... Because doing what's right is part of his DNA.

Might he sometimes get outschemed? Yep ... Who doesn't? Monte had some real talent to work with and still had his :shaking2: handed to him a few times this year.

Might he lose some big-time recruits who listen too much to their posses? Yep ... Those are also the kids who don't go to class and drive around with guns in their cars. Big loss.

I believe Hammy backed into hiring a good man. If the fan base gives DD enough time, I believe he will turn out to be a terrific coach.

If he gets outschemed, I damn sure bet he learns from it. If he loses "the next Joe Montana," I'm betting he walks in the door with "the next Brett Favre." I think he gets it ... understands it ... and will work his tail off to do the best he can.

He's got my support. He's got my respect. I believe he'll build a program that will make us proud.

Pretty much all the coaches at that level know the Xs and Os ... As we discovered first hand, not all of them know or display any knowledge of character.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
but how do we know that he won't do better at ut, where he will be able to recruit much better talent than he had been able to at la tech?
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We don't. We can only hope. I am withholding judgement until he gets his own personnel and has some games under his belt.
 
#29
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rockytop9808 said:
And Kiffin would have?

He and his "all-star" staff got exposed in the bowl game.

If we had kept Kiffin we probably would have been looking at several 7-5, 8-4 years with a few 9-3's sprinkled in, along with a little probation.
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I can tell you that they spent much more time recruiting than prepping for the bowl game.
 
#30
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volintears said:
Yeah a PF type guy makes everyone feel all warm and fuzzy.
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I'm pro-DD. That being said, I couldn't do anything but shake my head when he said,"If I can do it like him(PFulmer), What a HECKUVA way to do it" OH my I said. NOOOOOO. LOL I think he's well-qualified and has got his hands full. Best of luck, OR,UF,BAM,LSU are awaiting you coach Doo'. Whatcha got?!?
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#31
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Isanders, well stated. With the support of fans like you, DD will succeed there. He will also be highly motivated to beat his mentor and will have some inside knowledge to help in that endeavor . Time will tell!
 
#32
#32
I think if you brought all the articles and input from Sports Sites, writers and even other schools it's pretty obvious of the negative press Lame got versus the positive Dooley got. It's night and day.
 
#34
#34
Character and values matter... even for CFB coaches. In that regard, he's definitely an upgrade. Whether he has CLK's coaching talent or not remains to be seen.
 
#35
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Orangekush423 said:
I'm pro-DD. That being said, I couldn't do anything but shake my head when he said,"If I can do it like him(PFulmer), What a HECKUVA way to do it" OH my I said. NOOOOOO. LOL I think he's well-qualified and has got his hands full. Best of luck, OR,UF,BAM,LSU are awaiting you coach Doo'. Whatcha got?!?
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well said,and im very a afraid of what he has for satan and cyer.
 
#36
#36
Class and Integrity hasn't won a National Championship since 1986 when JoePa exposed Vinny as a pick machine in the Fiesta Bowl. With that said you people have looked at the 2010 schedule and UT's depth chart haven't you? 4 or 5 wins is all UT is getting next year and 2011 ain't going to be a picnic. You could dig up General Neyland or Vince Lombardi and they couldn't get to a winning record next year either. Dooley is going to need time. The question is will the fanbase give it to him. I have my doubts because much of the fanbase refuses to admit in just how bad of shape Fulmer left the program.
 
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#38
They didn't fire everyone single person on the kiffin tenn staff. They retained thompson, chaney, and i believe garza. Chaney can flat out coach, thompson known for recruiting skills which we need right now, but I have heard he is a hell of a defensive mind so we will see how that plays out. Also rumors of bringing in gardner which would put us in good shape. My only negative is dooley, im just split.. he will have to make alot of people including myself a believer. He does not have the proper credentials for this job, maybe the aspirations, but not the qualifications. Kiffin didnt either though, he was a "soundbite" that could get us talent, thats why we were decent last year. We need Recruiters AND coaches. If Dooley doesnt want to be just a set up man for the next guy he has to make it happein in rocky top.
 
#39
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ksushalovesthevols said:
but how do we know that he won't do better at ut, where he will be able to recruit much better talent than he had been able to at la tech?
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How can we believe that he will be any better if not worse? He couldn't compete in the WAC - how can we think he can compete in the SEC? How can he recruit better in a tougher recruiting fight with a program that is heading for tough times?

Look, I'll give you the fact that we can't see the future with all certainty...but given what we know it does not look promising at all.
 
#40
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50YearsAVol said:
I am withholding judgement until the man has had a chance to prove himself.
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At last! Wisdom!

How anyone can say with certainty that Coach Dooley is not the equal of the one we all now despise is beyond me. His resume is is very similar to what that guy's was and his winning percentage as a head coach is better.

Dooley may fail--and he may very well succeed. I'm impressed that he had the guts to take on what will be a VERY challenging job especially over the next two years--which is more than can be said for some of the names so many were fawning over.
 
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The Sentinel said:
How can we believe that he will be any better if not worse? He couldn't compete in the WAC - how can we think he can compete in the SEC? How can he recruit better in a tougher recruiting fight with a program that is heading for tough times?

Look, I'll give you the fact that we can't see the future with all certainty...but given what we know it does not look promising at all.
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Wasn't he recruiting coordinator at LSU under Saban?
 
#45
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ksushalovesthevols said:
Wasn't he recruiting coordinator at LSU under Saban?
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Yes...he was. But have you noticed that everybody associated with Saban has done well? Mr. Dooley has no success on his own and unless he is bringing Saban with him this is news that - though certainly good - is not the "GREAT" news we need right now.
 
#46
#46
The Sentinel said:
Yes...he was. But have you noticed that everybody associated with Saban has done well? Mr. Dooley has no success on his own and unless he is bringing Saban with him this is news that - though certainly good - is not the "GREAT" news we need right now.
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but look at where he was when he was on his own. you could almost say the same about kiffin before he came to ut (i.e., that he had never had much success when carroll wasn't with him). at the end of the day, i think the guy has what it takes to get us to a bowl every year. maybe not a bsc bowl, and maybe not with a 10-2 record, but a bowl. i know that in the long term that's not enough, but for the first year or two, it wouldn't be a bad start.
 
#48
#48
I dont think X was here long enough to really see what kind of coach he was \is. He had one year. I saw an upgrade in Crompton, and the defense was better, but lets hold our horses to see what Dooley does.
 
#49
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ksushalovesthevols said:
but look at where he was when he was on his own. you could almost say the same about kiffin before he came to ut (i.e., that he had never had much success when carroll wasn't with him). at the end of the day, i think the guy has what it takes to get us to a bowl every year. maybe not a bsc bowl, and maybe not with a 10-2 record, but a bowl. i know that in the long term that's not enough, but for the first year or two, it wouldn't be a bad start.
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I really do hope you are right and I am wrong...I want you to know that. I didn't like the Kiffin hire for the very reasons you stated but I liked his staff and recruiting and supported him nonetheless. I think we all agree that Kiffen was not exactly a success...yet we go out and do it again (though in character Mr. Dooley is superior) except this time we can't even use the excuse that our hire has a losing record in a competitive league/conference or a crazy boss. I just wonder why we try to fix one error by repeating it.

As for bowls, again I hope you are right but I really fear that we will not qualify this year and then who knows after that.
 
#50
#50
I finally broke down and read this article and I must say...with exception to calling out Kiffin as the basic scumbag he is...I haven't read anything more ridiculous in a long time!
 
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