Should Tyer Bray have started at QB earlier in the season?

What should have been the first game Tyler Bray started at QB?

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#101
#101
It's easy to say he should have been starting all along knowing what we know now. However, he wasn't ready. Look at how he threw in the first game
 
#102
#102
I think Dooley and his staff handled the QB situation about as well as they could. I thought all along that by the Memphis game Bray would be the starter. Simms played because he was the QB at the time that gave them the best chance to win. Now that QB is Bray, i have no problem with any of it what so ever.
 
#103
#103
volstuckinwa said:
We backed into the SEC championship game that year, and I know the O line was much more experienced than this one. I don't think this comparison should even be made. Fact: we are 3-6 and that can't be changed. Now let's kick everybody's arse and get to that bowl game.
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We won the east outright in 04. Our only SEC loss was to Auburn, twice. Thats why we were ranked so high in 05.
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#104
#104
He wasn't ready until a few weeks ago. If he was ready eariler he would have played. That was on him not the coaches. Case closed.
 
#105
#105
results would have been the same IMO...Simms faced some of the toughest defenses in the country and held his own for the most part. Bray took on one of the worse defenses in the country. Reminds me of 2000 when Suggs and Matthews were splitting time and in came Clausen against UL Monroe and the rest is history. GBO
 
#106
#106
Just like in the pros, sometimes sitting on the sidelines lets the QB understand the game better. You can do more damage than good by playing him too early. Don't think it would have changed the outcome of any games. Lets win out, go to a bowl and get ready for next year. GBO!
 
#107
#107
Happy now? More than half the Vol fans who responded agreed with CDD & the coaches who KNOW...that Bray wasn't prepared for SEC football as a newbie freshman. Now he's getting the grasp & developing confidence for the future.
 
#108
#108
the irony is that if CDD would have started Bray earlier, he prolly would have gotten smoked by the elite defenses that we played early in the season. By this point prolly 89% of the people on here would have been calling for the more mature qb simms to play.
 
#109
#109
shh.just.win said:
the irony is that if CDD would have started Bray earlier, he prolly would have gotten smoked by the elite defenses that we played early in the season. By this point prolly 89% of the people on here would have been calling for the more mature qb simms to play.
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Indeed.
 
#110
#110
TrueOrange said:
that's a too....how to put this...madden-esque approach?
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no. it's called statistics.

TrueOrange said:
and plus it's not like there isn't a large list of quarterbacks who didn't play freshman year and were great sophmore year and/or later, either
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Which has nothing to do with my point. The argument keeps being that the freshman would be ruined. The point is that finding a talented QB who was "ruined" by getting thrown into the briar patch his freshman year is harder than finding a talented QB who lived up to his billing as a jr or sr after being thrown into that same briar patch as a freshman. I've seen no statistical basis for the theory that he would be ruined. (Ainge keeps being the example, but it just doesn't wash; he had stellar junior and senior years... in fact 2 of the best performances in UT history.) I used Jimmy Clausen as an example because being on a team that allowed 58 sacks is a pretty good parallel to UT (notwithstanding the fact that our sack total would be much lower if Bray had played instead of Simms). If the guy really has "it", even 58 sacks won't turn him into a basket case. (And if Bray doesn't have "it", now would be a good time to know.)

Not starting a freshman because he doesn't give you the best chance to win makes perfect sense, not starting a freshman who clearly has more upside than another dude (who gives you next to no chance to win)
doesn't.
 
#111
#111
I myself would have started Bray after the Oregon game, which is why I am coaching peewee football for free and CDD is coaching at the University of Tennessee making millions. I think CDD made the right choice of when to start him.
 
#112
#112
He might have done well had he started earlier, but I don't want to second guess the coaches on something where I have very limited information. We really have no idea when he was ready. He may have been ready a few weeks ago, but I think it was a good move to wait for Memphis so that he could get a W in his first start.
 
#115
#115
papatomany said:
Which has nothing to do with my point. The argument keeps being that the freshman would be ruined. The point is that finding a talented QB who was "ruined" by getting thrown into the briar patch his freshman year is harder than finding a talented QB who lived up to his billing as a jr or sr after being thrown into that same briar patch as a freshman. I've seen no statistical basis for the theory that he would be ruined. (Ainge keeps being the example, but it just doesn't wash; he had stellar junior and senior years... in fact 2 of the best performances in UT history.) I used Jimmy Clausen as an example because being on a team that allowed 58 sacks is a pretty good parallel to UT (notwithstanding the fact that our sack total would be much lower if Bray had played instead of Simms). If the guy really has "it", even 58 sacks won't turn him into a basket case. (And if Bray doesn't have "it", now would be a good time to know.)

Not starting a freshman because he doesn't give you the best chance to win makes perfect sense, not starting a freshman who clearly has more upside than another dude (who gives you next to no chance to win)
doesn't.
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You do realize that getting thrown into the briar patch was a good thing and requested by brer rabbit, right?
 
#117
#117
If you want to know why Bray didn't start you can read it straight from Dooley's mouth on ESPN.com right now. There is an article about Bray on there today. I to believe he should have started UTM.....they are by and far not as good as Memphis.
 
#119
#119
You do remember that Rick, except for one fatal flaw, was one of the most complete qb's we have had since Peyton don't you? That flaw was huge in that he couldn't accurately throw the ball more than 20 yards.
 
#123
#123
shh.just.win said:
the irony is that if CDD would have started Bray earlier, he prolly would have gotten smoked by the elite defenses that we played early in the season. By this point prolly 89% of the people on here would have been calling for the more mature qb simms to play.
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:no:
 
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