Should the ethics report on Gaetz be released?

Should the ethics report on Gaetz be released ?

  • No, now that he's out of Congress it doesn't matter.

    Votes: 3 4.2%

  • No, it will make he and Trump look bad and who cares at this point

    Votes: 2 2.8%

  • Yes, a cabinet level pick should be fully vetted

    Votes: 37 51.4%

  • Yes, it will find it's way out in the end and better to deal with it now than have it linger

    Votes: 8 11.1%

  • Pie continues to rule

    Votes: 22 30.6%
  • Total voters
    72
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lawgator1 said:

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The allegations in here ought to be relatively easy to show, there are photos or not, and there ought to be some evidence of the payments.
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easy? Then explain

“Merrick Garland’s DOJ cleared Matt Gaetz and didn’t charge him,” a spokesperson for Gaetz told CNN last week.

He has no business being the AG...but you aren't making a good argument
 
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lawgator1 said:

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The allegations in here ought to be relatively easy to show, there are photos or not, and there ought to be some evidence of the payments.
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I’m sure all they need is some random folks eyes on everything that led to it being tossed. They probably missed something. 😂
 
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McDad said:
Disagree. Here's an example.

Remember the old place where you worked and the woman who was your boss? Should you be blackballed if your work (performance review) is stellar but your ethics ( routinely showing up 5 minutes late, and other stuff she didn't like) is lousy?
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Do performance reviews not include those things like showing up on time, etc,.?
 
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BREAKING NEWS: Ethics Committee Split on whether Matt Gaetz report on 'sexual misconduct' investigation will be released​


The House Ethics Committee couldn't come to an agreement about whether to release its potentially damning report on firebrand Rep. Matt Gaetz's alleged sexual misconduct.

After the marathon meeting, Ethics Committee Chairman Michael Guest, R-Ala., told reporters: 'There was no agreement by the committee to release the report.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

Ethics Committee split on Matt Gaetz 'sex scandal' file publication

The House Ethics Committee couldn't come to an agreement about whether to release its potentially damning report on Matt Gaetz's alleged sexual misconduct.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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Septic said:
Watching you guys nervously dancing around the release of a report about a potential child trafficking, drug using member of congress is hilarious. Dudes tapped to be the AG and you don't want to know, because "wUts dA rUleZ sAY?"

Y'all's hypocrisy is on brand.
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here........ If they had evidence he was responsible for the acts he's rumored to have been involved with why hasn't action been taken, or at the very least a move in that direction? I think there is a very likely reason.

If it was being held for political leverage down the road and those withholding it got outmaneuvered isn't that just fair turnabout?

I mean if justice was the goal it would have been released and his political career likely over.

If true he's a real piece of excrement......... But then again they all are.
 
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KB5252 said:
I'm going to play devil's advocate here........ If they had evidence he was responsible for the acts he's rumored to have been involved with why hasn't action been taken, or at the very least a move in that direction? I think there is a very likely reason.

If it was being held for political leverage down the road and those withholding it got outmaneuvered isn't that just fair turnabout?

I mean if justice was the goal it would have been released and his political career likely over.

If true he's a real piece of excrement......... But then again they all are.
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I think they had announced when the report was supposed to come out before Gaetz was announced as a cabinet choice.
 
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LouderVol said:
I think they had announced when the report was supposed to come out before Gaetz was announced as a cabinet choice.
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Fair enough..... As I said just playing devil's advocate.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Bring it all out into the light. Congress has gotten away with hiding this kind of stuff long enough.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene Suggests Releasing All Ethics Reports, Not Just Gaetz's: "If We're Going to Dance, Let's All Dance In The Sunlight'' lol All aboard the Clown Car!!

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lawgator1 said:
She's arguing against a specific situation by decrying the entirety. Very poor logic.


Which of course makes sense coming from her.
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She's saying if they want to open books outside of normal protocol then why stop at Gaetz...... It's a good question, why stop with him?

I think they're all hypocritical criminals. I've always said we would go to prison for doing the things they routinely do to enrich themselves.

It's why I agree with opening an those investigations up, let America see what they truly are.
 
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LouderVol said:
something I have wondered, doesn't congress still have to vet/approve the appointments? for the "rule followers" just have whatever report done on Congressman Gaetz retitled to be relevant towards Cabinet Member Gaetz.
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No. Recess appointments are one of two ways that he can become AG without Congressional involvement.
Most Presidents before Trump have used recess appointments so it’s actually a normal thing.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
What are you afraid of?
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Nothing.

You completely misapprehend my point.

I happen to agree with her -- release it all.

But don't compare apples to elephants. The reason to release all reports is simply that government should be open, so release it and let people deal with it. The reason to release Gaetz', in particular, and now, is that he is nominated to be AG. Same result, different reason, and the reason matters.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Nothing.

You completely misapprehend my point.

I happen to agree with her -- release it all.

But don't compare apples to elephants. The reason to release all reports is simply that government should be open, so release it and let people deal with it. The reason to release Gaetz', in particular, and now, is that he is nominated to be AG. Same result, different reason, and the reason matters.
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So do you want every Trump appointee investigated?

Nevermind, it's rhetorical.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
So do you want every Trump appointee investigated?

Nevermind, it's rhetorical.
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No more so than is called for by the Constitution, by law, and by traditional practice. In this case, the Senate would seem to me to need the report to round out its information and perform its duty. If they don't have it, seems to me:

1) the story will be how they turned a blind eye to it;
2) the Dems will insist on holding hearings, and investigating it again. The GOP will shut that down as majority party, and it will look even worse for them; and
3) it will all get out, anyway, so obstructing its release can only backfire on the GOP, Gaetz, and Trump.
 
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lawgator1 said:
No more so than is called for by the Constitution, by law, and by traditional practice. In this case, the Senate would seem to me to need the report to round out its information and perform its duty. If they don't have it, seems to me:

1) the story will be how they turned a blind eye to it;
2) the Dems will insist on holding hearings, and investigating it again. The GOP will shut that down as majority party, and it will look even worse for them; and
3) it will all get out, anyway, so obstructing its release can only backfire on the GOP, Gaetz, and Trump.
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But it will be all different when your party is back in power again.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
But it will be all different when your party is back in power again.
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First, I'm not a Dem as of about 3 or 4 months ago.

Second, even if I was, I'd be supremely pissed off if my newly elected POTUS selected so many people with obvious problems putting the party in the unenviable position of having to try to defend it! (Why you all are ok with Trump doing this to you ill never understand)

Finally, I'd be SUPREMELY pissed off if my newly elected POTUS and party then worked to block release of a report of such serious allegations against the AG nominee.

In the end, this is just validating critics' complaints before the election that Trump = undisciplined chaos. Again.
 
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